[bdamschen]

Just saw this photo sequence from a local race last weekend.

Maybe I have a messed up sense of humor, but it cracks me up:
http://vorick6.smugmug.com/Sports/CCCX-XC-2012-2-March-10-2012/21879205_qbL6sC#!i=1745768709&k=XKP2b2c

 

[canadmos]

Someone needs to edit it into a gif.

 

[Beef Supreme]

How do you lose from the lower position? That guy deserved to crash.

 

[chillindrdude]

hows that go? rubbin's racing. but i would have still kicked that guy's ass afterwards.

 

[sstalder5]

That guy just bent over and took it.. If someone's gonna race like that you've gotta fight back. A well placed shoulder could've easily taken the aggressive guy down. And even if you go down too at least you let the guy know he can't race like a dick ang get away with it.

 

[jonKranked]

30" bars + racing XC = LOL

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

30" bars = LOL

fixed that for you

 

[jonKranked]

fixed that for you

try them, then get back to me. hoser.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

I have. I've also tried a 29er. I can say with complete confidence both are marketing successes.

 

[jonKranked]

I have. I've also tried a 29er. I can say with complete confidence both are marketing successes.

then you must have tiny narrow feminine shoulders

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

More in regards to the places I ride. I have broad shoulders, but if I'm riding DH trails with trees 30-36" apart in some places......I'll stick with 28" bars. Wide enough but not too wide. If I was out in California I'd sing a different tune......same goes with 29ers. They just don't make sense for the terrain I ride.

I also have 25" flat bars on my XC bike, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[DirtMcGirk]

Makes me want to get skinny again and go trade elbows at a XC race.

 

[jonKranked]

More in regards to the places I ride. I have broad shoulders, but if I'm riding DH trails with trees 30-36" apart in some places......I'll stick with 28" bars. Wide enough but not too wide. If I was out in California I'd sing a different tune......same goes with 29ers. They just don't make sense for the terrain I ride.

I also have 25" flat bars on my XC bike, so take it with a grain of salt.

i can't tell you the horrible horrible shoulder pain i would get from narrow bars. switched to wide bars. instantly gone.

also, is it really that hard to do a wheelie and turn the bars slightly? there's numerous places i ride where there are tree gaps narrower than my bars, and i manage just fine

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

i can't tell you the horrible horrible shoulder pain i would get from narrow bars. switched to wide bars. instantly gone.

also, is it really that hard to do a wheelie and turn the bars slightly? there's numerous places i ride where there are tree gaps narrower than my bars, and i manage just fine

Probably not that hard, but it's more work than just running appropriate width bars

 

[jonKranked]

Probably not that hard, but it's more work than just running appropriate width bars

i'll take proper ergonomics for the duration of a ride over the maybe 4-5 times a ride where clearance is an issue for people that can't wheelie

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

Really? You get sore during a 5 minute DH run? Methinks you need to work on your core strength.

And if you're talking XC/trail, you're now arguing the complete opposite of your first post. NTTAWWT....

 

[jonKranked]

Really? You get sore during a 5 minute DH run? Methinks you need to work on your core strength.

And if you're talking XC/trail, you're now arguing the complete opposite of your first post. NTTAWWT....

No. I'm talking all of the above. I have 29.5" or 30" bars on all my mountain bikes; dh, trail/am, xc.

in regards to my first post, emphasis is on racing. I can't tell you how many guys I see my size or bigger riding bars that are ungodly narrow.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

Then I guess I don't get the '30" bars + XC racing = lol'......you argue the merits of wider bars for bigger guys, and how they are more comfortable. Wouldn't using them during XC races be the most appropriate place to use them for said reasons?

 

[jonKranked]

Then I guess I don't get the '30" bars + XC racing = lol'......you argue the merits of wider bars for bigger guys, and how they are more comfortable. Wouldn't using them during XC races be the most appropriate place to use them for said reasons?

yes. exactly. the irony is that most xc racers use narrow bars. also, wider bars give you an extra inch on either side to block would-be passers.

then again, look at how most xc riders turn... bike upright, brakes draggin...

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

DH/tech sections are the only reason I'm able to avoid DFL at the occasional XC races I did/do.

 

[jonKranked]

DH/tech sections are the only reason I'm able to avoid DFL at the occasional XC races I did/do.

i'm sure sabotaging other people's bikes helped

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

I swapped to 25" bars on the bikes of everyone in my class and they all got shoulder cramps mid-race.

 

[Westy]

Best way to stop someone from passing you in a race is grabbing a handful of their front brake.

 

[jonKranked]

Best way to stop someone from passing you in a race is grabbing a handful of their front brake.

i am a master of this

 

[Westy]

i am a master of this

Of course you are. On the internet everyone is a super-model dating exotic car enthusiast with unmatched talent and strength.

 

[sanjuro]

That's odd, from doing a hundred road races, I have a hard time seeing that happen to me.

I wonder if this XC weenie has never made contact with another rider before.

 

[bdamschen]

My favorite is how the dude is smiling across the line. Every time I look at that shot it cracks me up.

 

[JohnE]

...thats why I dont race.

 

[norbar]

...thats why I dont race.

That's what I hated in XC racing as a kid. I am small framed and slower people used all kind of **** all the time.

 

[splat]

That's odd, from doing a hundred road races, I have a hard time seeing that happen to me.

I wonder if this XC weenie has never made contact with another rider before.

No kidding.

 

[eric strt6]

That's odd, from doing a hundred road races, I have a hard time seeing that happen to me.

I wonder if this XC weenie has never made contact with another rider before.

yup

we used to train riding down the street leaning into each other shoulder to shoulder trying to push the other guy off his line. maybe its just a roadie thing.

 

[rockofullr]

This thread got real bitchy real fast.

 

[sstalder5]

yup

we used to train riding down the street leaning into each other shoulder to shoulder trying to push the other guy off his line. maybe its just a roadie thing.

For 4X practice we used to have a drill where 4 riders would accelerate full speed into a singletrack trailhead. The bike carnage was so bad we had to stop doing the drill, but when the trails got narrow in a race our riders always came out out front.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

^^BMX has the same effect.

 

[JohnE]

In my limited race experience (15 races or so over the years...) I have always stayed to the back of the starting pack to avoid pileups at the first turn(s) and the pedaled by folks as they crashed, flamed out or quit on themselves...just not into carnage inflicted by a hyper active competition gland. Not my thing on the bike...I usually save it for the ice.

 

[dhmike]

In my limited race experience (15 races or so over the years...) I have always stayed to the back of the starting pack to avoid pileups at the first turn(s) and the pedaled by folks as they crashed, flamed out or quit on themselves...just not into carnage inflicted by a hyper active competition gland. Not my thing on the bike...I usually save it for the ice.

and this is the reason why you have never won a race .

 

[gonefirefightin]

I miss the CCCX antics.