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Something I read on another forum (long)

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by narlus
i only brought up the embassies as that was in the 1st post (the iranians overcoming the US embassy in tehran).
Mortar Attack Kills One Near Italy's Baghdad Embassy -- "Insurgents have attacked the area around the Italian embassy several times in recent months, mostly causing only minor damage. Last year the embassy was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade." -- http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=5335313
 

BuddhaRoadkill

I suck at Tool
Feb 15, 2004
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Chintimini Bog
Originally posted by BurlySurly
Wow, you must've totally missed that other thread, because this has already been discussed. Did you notice that the facts in your disected chainletter are not the same facts that I posted, or are you just trying to slide one by me?
Im not sure you know what I do for a living, but these are DoD numbers I have. They didnt come from a chainletter.:rolleyes:
Now that you mention it, I do recall that thread. ;)

If the source is credible, why did you not cite it? Posting random numbers without citation is a diservice to your argument. Add to that the funny little hatch marks down the left side and I'm sure you can understand why I mistakenly thought "chainletter, cut-n-paste". It bloody well looks exactly like one. Which was the point of my link - I was not intending to directly confront each factoid. And what does your employer have to do with anything?

But about your point of press negativity:
/Rant
Yes, bad sh1t sells. But more importantly, freedom of the press is a constitutional right for a reason. It's an essential part of the checks and balance system and the press corps has a civic duty to do the governments laundry in public. Negativity gets old, fair enough. But that negativity is an important part of the eternal vigilance equation that keeps us free.
/end Rant
 

RhinofromWA

Brevity R Us
Aug 16, 2001
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Lynnwood, WA
Originally posted by BuddhaRoadkill
And what does your employer have to do with anything?

But about your point of press negativity:
/Rant
Yes, bad sh1t sells. But more importantly, freedom of the press is a constitutional right for a reason. It's an essential part of the checks and balance system and the press corps has a civic duty to do the governments laundry in public. Negativity gets old, fair enough. But that negativity is an important part of the eternal vigilance equation that keeps us free.
/end Rant
I think he works for the DoD....:think: He is the source....kinda.

Bad news sells....checks and balances are good (though I thought that was a government thing not a press thing).....reporting on the negative governemental news soley can start to equate to a bias, right?

When all you look for is the bad.....that is all you will see. ~ Da Horn

Reporing only on the negatives events happening (in Iraq) does not keep us free, it produces/shows a bias....maybe a personal agenda? I am not saying don't report it, but often any news that can be considered good news is down played or bumped for some footage of a 7yo boy dragging a mangled bumper across the street for a car bomb that happened 2 days ago.

I google'd "Journalistic and ethics" and my computer crashed :D

Tried again and found this: http://www.spj.org/ethics_code.asp

They list examples of things journalist should do after the items listed below....I only copy the titles of each section for brevity. Interesting to see how an organization sees its own profession.

Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's principles and standards of practice

Seek Truth and Report It -

Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information.

Minimize Harm -

Ethical journalists treat sources, subjects and colleagues as human beings deserving of respect.

Act Independently -

Journalists should be free of obligation to any interest other than the public's right to know.

Be Accountable -

Journalists are accountable to their readers, listeners, viewers and each other.
 

-BB-

I broke all the rules, but somehow still became mo
Sep 6, 2001
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Livin it up in the O.C.
Originally posted by narlus
so why are only americans (and perhaps israelis) targeted? when was the last time a norweigan, irish, peruvian, greek, (fill in the blank) embassy was overtaken? what is the root cause? could it be our foreign policies?
Because they just sit back knowing that we will do the dirty work for them. If it wasn't us, then someone else wuold have to step up.
 

-BB-

I broke all the rules, but somehow still became mo
Sep 6, 2001
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Livin it up in the O.C.
So would most of you agree that a simple way to stop this all is to come up with an alternative to GASOLINE that we don't have to import.
If it weren't for oil, the middle east would be just like eastern europe and africa. We don't mess with them, they don't mess with us.
 

jmvar

Monkey
Aug 16, 2002
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"It was a funny angle!"
INVADE!! (duh)
1.) invade.

2.) set up puppet gov. with leader that will provide all US foreign policy objectives.

3.) watch as he turns into a tyrant, kills his own people, sh!ts on everyones human rights but do nothing....

4.) as soon as he pisses the US off or somehow fvcks up a market where US indutries stand to make money, you charge him with being anti democratic or bring up old human rights violations that the US knew where going on all along and INVADE!!!!!!!!!!!!

5.) repeat step 1.
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
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just sittin' here drinkin' scotch
Originally posted by jmvar
1.) invade.

2.) set up puppet gov. with leader that will provide all US foreign policy objectives.

3.) watch as he turns into a tyrant, kills his own people, sh!ts on everyones human rights but do nothing....

4.) as soon as he pisses the US off or somehow fvcks up a market where US indutries stand to make money, you charge him with being anti democratic or bring up old human rights violations that the US knew where going on all along and INVADE!!!!!!!!!!!!

5.) repeat step 1.

That's jsut crazy enough to work!