[Spitfired]

Is there any sort of package that would include the new uppercrown/stem and the lowrider bottom crown?
What kind of price would one be looking at for said setup?

 

[BMXman]

but now Marzocchi offers a lower crown set up for the 888's how much lower is the Go-Ride stem crown than the new Marzocchi crowns...D

 

[renegade999]

gosh, you're pretty bossy for only having two posts, aren't ya?

Very true Zedro. My apologies for coming across as bossy. But please don't associate my post count (or lack thereof) with my practical knowledge of DH bikes, and their performance. 10+ years of DH, BMX and Motocross racing should count for something. Perhaps not on the internet.

Kudos to the Go-Ride team for forwarding the aftermarket, and explaining to me that the Boxxer standard wont work with this new crown. Although James and Krispy have stated otherwise, I feel that a SIC or E13 bolt on stem would be dead sexy on the 888, and very practical to switch from one bike to another.

 

[James | Go-Ride]

GO-Ride's website says 31.6mm OS standard, rockymt21 say 31.9mm. We can all agree that the true size is 31.8mm right

Nice crown guys I'm sure you will sell a ton of them. It is the best option that's for sure....

D'oh!

 

[narlus]

do you want him to come over and do your laundry too? vacuum your living room maybe?

since when are companies expected to exchange products for free just so you can have the latest and greatest item on your bike?

i think there's a new rule where you get two firmware updates.

 

[kidwoo]

Here's some images of the original stem we were going to make that is compatible with our original top crown as well as the stock crown. You can see how it sits about 3/4" taller than the new coolguy stem, the stock stem is the same way.

Since we do pretty small quantities of our machine work, if any of you guys want us to do the stem for the old top crown, I'm sure we could.

Yes, yes. Assuming this first run stem you guys have been sitting on forever would be cheaper than the whole new top crown, I'd be very interested. I'm already using 1/2" riser bars on my bike anyway. I don't have a problem with the height so much, just the stupid 67mm reach.

The truth of the matter is I will most likely buy whatever is available, either the new crown or the first generation stem but the cheaper option would be appreciated.

Oh yeah.....thanks for addressing the 2 lame things about the 888 forks. Your crowns made my bike ridable. James, you going to bootleg with Mani next weekend?

 

[DH-Rooky]

curious... why didnt you guys use the same boxxer mounting standard so that we can use any of the new bolt on stem options....? E13, SIC and a few others are making new bolt on stems. You should go back to the drawing board and make it easier for riders to interchange components.

You mean something like that?

sorry for pic's bad quality, had no digi only a webcam

 

[OGRipper]

The truth of the matter is I will most likely buy whatever is available, either the new crown or the first generation stem but the cheaper option would be appreciated.

So true. But if people with the older upper get a discount, the difference between a discounted new crown/stem and the separate first gen stem might not be too bad. And it will be lower.

Oh yeah.....thanks for addressing the 2 lame things about the 888 forks. Your crowns made my bike ridable.

Second that. And thanks for the tuning article too.

It's like you guys ride or care or something.

 

[James | Go-Ride]

Yes, yes. Assuming this first run stem you guys have been sitting on forever would be cheaper than the whole new top crown, I'd be very interested. I'm already using 1/2" riser bars on my bike anyway. I don't have a problem with the height so much, just the stupid 67mm reach.

Oh yeah.....thanks for addressing the 2 lame things about the 888 forks. Your crowns made my bike ridable. James, you going to bootleg with Mani next weekend?

We'll have to run some numbers to see how much the stem assembly would be, I'll get back to you with that when we figure something out.

I don't know if I'm going to make it to Bootleg this winter. Trying to do the college junior/full-time employee thing with a truck payment, while contemplating buying a new DH bike doesn't leave me with much for travel expenses.

I am absolutely horrible with personal finances, short answer, so no

 

[El_Chimichanga]

I noticed that the new upper crown/stem has one bolt on the steerer tube.
On my 888 stock crowns, I originally had a problem with the steerer tube bolts coming loose when I first got the fork, even tho it has one bolt for the crown and one for the stem. Are there advantages or disadvatages to the way you guys built your crown? I was wondering if you have effectively made that area of clamping surface smaller/weaker? Not that I think you haven't done your homework, but I was never really convinced that marz did that part right anyway, and therfore I am curious as to how you guys think it will hold tight.

Should I just shut up and go get some loc-tite?

p.s. what size bolt is it? 4mm or 5mm?

 

[leprechaun]

They're 5mm bolts,the same as Zokes are.
I would reccomend using a head lock if you have headset problems.
Headsets like Kings that have only an o ring can come loose more easily than ones that have a compression ring.

 

[Sir Happypants]

curious... why didnt you guys use the same boxxer mounting standard so that we can use any of the new bolt on stem options....? E13, SIC and a few others are making new bolt on stems. You should go back to the drawing board and make it easier for riders to interchange components.

you should shut up and let people who make a cool product make cool productts without your imput bringing them down

 

[renegade999]

You mean something like that?

sorry for pic's bad quality, had no digi only a webcam

Those are beautiful. Who makes those crowns? They are the perfect answer to the 888 Crown debacle. And compatible with all the new bolt on stems I see. Simply beautiful!

 

[buildyourown]

They're 5mm bolts,the same as Zokes are.

Almost
6mm bolt. 5mm allen wrench.

What's coming loose? The headset? The top crown should play no role in keeping your headset tight. If the headset is coming loose, the culprit is something else.

 

[renegade999]

you should shut up and let people who make a cool product make cool productts without your imput bringing them down

No I shouldn't. This is the internet sir. The only place where opinions are actually 'valuable'. If you read my latter post, I congratulated the Go-Ride team on a job well done. Settle down.

Might I recccommned the spellling checkkk feature?

 

[James | Go-Ride]

Almost
6mm bolt. 5mm allen wrench.

What's coming loose? The headset? The top crown should play no role in keeping your headset tight. If the headset is coming loose, the culprit is something else.

Nah, the bolts in our crowns and the stockers are 5mm bolts that use 4mm allens.

 

[COmtbiker12]

Here's some images of the original stem we were going to make that is compatible with our original top crown as well as the stock crown. You can see how it sits about 3/4" taller than the new coolguy stem, the stock stem is the same way.

Since we do pretty small quantities of our machine work, if any of you guys want us to do the stem for the old top crown, I'm sure we could.

James, on the original stem you guys made it appears as if it just bolts around the steerer, I can't tell if it bolts onto the crown or not, but if it doesn't would that make it compatible with other forks as well? Not just the 888/marzocchi integrated stem crown? I think that if nothing else you could market it as a low/short stem that would appeal to just about anybody who wanted a stem with a low ride height that was still pretty strong. I dunno, just my .02.

 

[OGRipper]

The top crown should play no role in keeping your headset tight. If the headset is coming loose, the culprit is something else.

Is that really what you mean? What if you don't have stem on the steer tube, like lots of direct mounts? The headset is adjusted with the bolt/star nut but if the top crown isn't holding tight you get a loose headset.

 

[syadasti]

you should shut up and let people who make a cool product make cool productts without your imput bringing them down

Yeah product feedback sucks. Don't give the customer what they want - that makes a lot of sense

I guess I should switch my bikes over to Shimano's dual control saint and rapid-rise cause they think its what I want

 

[buildyourown]

Is that really what you mean? What if you don't have stem on the steer tube, like lots of direct mounts? The headset is adjusted with the bolt/star nut but if the top crown isn't holding tight you get a loose headset.

Ahh, I wasn't thinking about the integrated stem part.
I would wager that most top crowns aren't designed to keep the headset tight. I think for most manufactures, the integrated stem is an ofterthought.
Maybe I'm way off on this.

So yeah, I agree with Krispy. Go for a headlock

 

[DH-Rooky]

Those are beautiful. Who makes those crowns? They are the perfect answer to the 888 Crown debacle. And compatible with all the new bolt on stems I see. Simply beautiful!

Thanks a lot these are my own selfdesigned crowns.
I will take some better pictures next week

the funny thing is that all boxxer mount stems would fit the crown but it's so hard to get those stems in Germany so i made my own one

 

[renegade999]

I see. Another card carrying member of the S.O.P.T.A.M.T.O.S. Well done DH-Rooky!

 

[leprechaun]

Ok i'm gonna ask it-
Who made those blingin silver crowns?
They look Tight!

edit-nice job on those.Nothin like havin a one of a kind part on your bike!

 

[El_Chimichanga]

Loose 888 bolts:
Well, let me explain,

When I first assembled the fork, I used grease on the bolts 'cause I sweat a lot and I didn't want the bolts to seize in the crown. (You know you sweat a lot when your lock-on grips won't come off your handlebars 'cause of all the salt built up between the grip and the bar.) But I would be riding down a trail and the headset would start to creak and it felt loose. I checked the headset and it was a little loose, but man, those bolts had almost dialed themselves out of the crown. Well, like ten minutes after, that the same thing happened to my buddy with 888's and we thought it was kind of weird. This was like our first month riding these forks.

I wiped all the grease off and they stayed put a little better.
I dunno, I'm afraid of stripping all that stuff on forks so maybe I am not making it tight enough. I can remember how easy my pinch bolts on my old boxxers stripped out, so I have been scared ever since.

Anyhoo, that new top crown looks like it solves a couple other problems too.

A. Fvcking annoying little red spacers that adapt the stem for no-OS bars. I hate trying to get those things together. It's like when you take a thomson post all apart and try to put it all back together. :angry:
B. Looks a little sturdier and less likely to creak that the stock one.
C. ALL BLACK. Who wants RED up there anyway?
D. Did you say stainless steel hardware?...As in no rust? I may have to get those crowns now.

 

[DH-Rooky]

Maybe a silly question but what does S.O.P.T.A.M.T.O.S. mean?

 

[shocktower]

Dam I miss my milling machine ,and I miss my friend caseys shop he could spit me some thing out or even let me make my own

 

[renegade999]

Rooky - Society Of People Who Actually Make Their Own Shi7.

Excellent work on your crowns!