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Spanish before English? wtf

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Turbo Monkey
Jun 23, 2007
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who else puts Spanish before English?

i know shop rite does! next time you go check out the credit card machine :huh:
 

Upgr8r

High Priest or maybe Jedi Master
May 2, 2006
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Ventura, CA
I got a telemarketer last night in spanish. When I told him I don't speak spanish he sounded shocked as I have a hispanic last name.

I hate when people assume I speak spanish. I may have a hispanic last name but as Zark reminds me, I make a lousy Mezzican as I don't like guacamole or sour cream
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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this whole thing is getting pretty ridiculous. when you move into another country, be prepared to learn/speak the native language there.
 

dan-o

Turbo Monkey
Jun 30, 2004
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this whole thing is getting pretty ridiculous. when you move into another country, be prepared to learn/speak the native language there.
So, now that you live in SoCal, have you learned spanish yet?
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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So, now that you live in SoCal, have you learned spanish yet?
I still remember enough from high school to get around functionally. But I only use it with the asshats that don't know English. Last time I looked at the map, it said "The United States of America", not "Los Estados Unidos de Mexico"
 

CRoss

Turbo Monkey
Nov 20, 2006
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The Ranch
It would help if we had an official language in this country. Until then we can't do much about it.
 

manimal

Ociffer Tackleberry
Feb 27, 2002
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Blindly running into cactus
i believe that if you PAY TAXES you should be able to speak whatever language you want. again.... IF YOU PAY TAXES.
i'm sick and tired of LULAC and other latino rights organizations trying to muddy the waters between equal rights for latino citizens and ILLEGAL immigrants. there is a big...big difference.
 

Upgr8r

High Priest or maybe Jedi Master
May 2, 2006
941
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Ventura, CA
i believe that if you PAY TAXES you should be able to speak whatever language you want. again.... IF YOU PAY TAXES.
i'm sick and tired of LULAC and other latino rights organizations trying to muddy the waters between equal rights for latino citizens and ILLEGAL immigrants. there is a big...big difference.
I have to agree with you 100%
 

CRoss

Turbo Monkey
Nov 20, 2006
1,329
0
The Ranch
i believe that if you PAY TAXES you should be able to speak whatever language you want. again.... IF YOU PAY TAXES.
i'm sick and tired of LULAC and other latino rights organizations trying to muddy the waters between equal rights for latino citizens and ILLEGAL immigrants. there is a big...big difference.

I think some people have forgotten what the word illegal means. This is evident in your thread about the guy growing pot.
 

MMike

A fowl peckerwood.
Sep 5, 2001
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just sittin' here drinkin' scotch
Man, you guys don't EVEN know from language issues....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_québécois_de_la_langue_française

Businesses are fined and closed for violating language laws around here....ie: posting signs in ENGLISH....English is illegal here.


Negative perception in English Canada

The OQLF was created to promote the normal use of the French language in Quebec (the only North American jurisdiction with a francophone majority). The OQLF is also one of the most visible manifestations of Quebec's tense linguistic situation and language laws, which, prior to 1988, was responsible to enforce a regulation whereby French was the only language authorized on outdoor commercial signage.

The OQLF is sometimes referred to as "The Tongue Troopers" among English-speaking Canadians[citation needed]. The term "Language Police" was first popularized by the American show 60 Minutes, which ran an investigative report on Quebec language laws. Legally, the organization has no police power, although they may impose fines or, in extraordinary situations, shut down businesses. In the majority of the cases, the office will convince businesses that it is in their own financial interests to respect the majority of the customers (who speak French). Generally, businesses opt to cater to francophone customers, as they constitute roughly 80% of the province's population.

However, there have been cases where businesses have been fined and even shut down for violating these laws. According to the statistics of the OQLF, 95% of all complaints by citizens which are judged to be valid are resolved without resorting to legal sanction. In an average year, the OQLF receives between 3000 and 4000 complaints from citizens. Forty to fifty percent of these complaints have to do with commercial products for which there is no available French manual or packaging, 25% have to do with signage in stores, 10% with websites and 5% with the language of service. [16]

[edit] Today

Originally, Law 101 required that all commercial signage be in French and no other language. In 1988 Ford v. Quebec (Attorney General) the Supreme Court of Canada ruled this was unconstitutional. After massive protests in support of the legislation, the Bourassa Government invoked the Notwithstanding Clause, allowing the laws to remain static for a period of 5 years, after which they would be reviewed. In 1993, the United Nations ruled that it was outside of the government's jurisdiction to limit freedom of expression in this particular way. Also in 1993, but not due to the UN ruling, Quebec reviewed the law and modified its language regulations to require that French be markedly predominant on exterior business signs, as suggested by the Supreme Court of Canada ruling in the case of Ford v. Quebec.
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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i believe that if you PAY TAXES you should be able to speak whatever language you want. again.... IF YOU PAY TAXES.
i'm sick and tired of LULAC and other latino rights organizations trying to muddy the waters between equal rights for latino citizens and ILLEGAL immigrants. there is a big...big difference.
I'm all for preserving heritage and sh*t, but I shouldn't have to learn another language in order to interact with someone who immigrated (legally or not) into the country I was born and raised in, where I have spoken the same language my whole life. Official language or not, America speaks english. You come here, you learn our language. You don't like it? Find another country. Its not MY fault that your country is overrun by gangs and largely lives in third world squalor. If you move to Germany, they're going to expect you to learn German. Move to France, learn French. Move to China, learn Cantonese (or Mandarin depending on which part. both ideally). You get the point.
 

X3pilot

Texans fan - LOL
Aug 13, 2007
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SoMD
I speak Southern...

..fixin' to..

..put the clothes up in the closet..

...geetyet?..

..want a Coke? What flavor?..

...sack of groceries...
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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I speak Southern...

..fixin' to..

..put the clothes up in the closet..

...geetyet?..

..want a Coke? What flavor?..

...sack of groceries...

thats local dialect. different ball park. I grew up in Pittsburgh, you should hear how they slaughter the English language. And I still love it.
 

blue

boob hater
Jan 24, 2004
10,160
2
california
i believe that if you PAY TAXES you should be able to speak whatever language you want. again.... IF YOU PAY TAXES.
i'm sick and tired of LULAC and other latino rights organizations trying to muddy the waters between equal rights for latino citizens and ILLEGAL immigrants. there is a big...big difference.
Up until the ICE went batsh!t insane on enforcement, a majority of the undocumented workers in the country did, and couldn't/didn't file for refunds.

In the same vein, it's entertaining that the people who complain about the "damn messicans" are some of the same who don't seem to mind writing off their H2 as a business expense.
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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I have a hard enough time trying to comprehend some of the english that the white and african american population that were born here speak....

thats local dialect. different ball park. I grew up in Pittsburgh, you should hear how they slaughter the English language. And I still love it.
yous guys?

I love listening to my relatives talk in PA.
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
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i believe that if you PAY TAXES you should be able to speak whatever language you want. again.... IF YOU PAY TAXES.
i'm sick and tired of LULAC and other latino rights organizations trying to muddy the waters between equal rights for latino citizens and ILLEGAL immigrants. there is a big...big difference.
I don't agree. I have a Russian coworker who only speaks Russian to his kid (shes about 1.5). So what happens when he sticks her in school and she can't speak English? If you want to live here and use the infrastructure/services you need to speak the language.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
6,649
26
SF, CA
I don't agree. I have a Russian coworker who only speaks Russian to his kid (shes about 1.5). So what happens when he sticks her in school and she can't speak English? If you want to live here and use the infrastructure/services you need to speak the language.
Dude, there are literally millions of people in this country who's parents don't speak a word of English, but speak perfect English themselves. If the kid is going to learn English, it won't be from her Dad who is going to learn far slower than she is. She will learn from being socialized at an early age and going to school. The bigger problem is schools NOT teaching kids English, or providing bi-lingual offerings to kids young enough to simply be immersed in English.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
10,840
1
Orange County, CA
So, since I'm a legal immigrant (which is apparently like bigfoot, considering the hoops a white college educated no criminal record person had to go through) I guess I'm entitled to tell you all to start spelling words like neighbour and colour correctly, instead of like the inbred retard hicks y'all are?

Just wondering...
 

DaveW

Space Monkey
Jul 2, 2001
11,775
3,253
The bunker at parliament
So, since I'm a legal immigrant (which is apparently like bigfoot, considering the hoops a white college educated no criminal record person had to go through) I guess I'm entitled to tell you all to start spelling words like neighbour and colour correctly, instead of like the inbred retard hicks y'all are?

Just wondering...
:rofl: GOLD!!!!


but dammit, must spread rep. :rant:
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
...I guess I'm entitled to tell you all to start spelling words like neighbour and colour correctly, instead of like the inbred retard hicks y'all are?...
Only if we can insist that your people brush their teeth regularly and see a dentist once in a while!

:D
 

pnj

Turbo Monkey till the fat lady sings
Aug 14, 2002
4,696
40
seattle
best learn spanish now. it's taking over as the next form of verbal communication in the US.

you don't hear the native american indians complainin to ya? get on board!
 

DaveW

Space Monkey
Jul 2, 2001
11,775
3,253
The bunker at parliament
best learn spanish now. it's taking over as the next form of verbal communication in the US.

you don't hear the native american indians complainin to ya? get on board!
:clue: Hmmm well if one cannot get basic English right, you might as well try a different language to see if you can do any better in that. :brow: