Spankin' New 24 Bicycles F/S
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oh my 
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Sex except for that seatube gusset.
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww 
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That's sweet!!! I wonder how much it'll be pricewise. I'd definitely have to look into that when it comes out.
I'm with you on this one. At least a little bit smaller?? Looks out of place to me.The Kadvang said:
Doesn't seem like anyone would be riding with their seat quite that high on a DH/FR bikey... I mean that thing is massive.bradical said:
is that a variation of a VPP design looks very nice
Doesn't Santa Cruz hold the patent on VPP?
...or Karpiel or Canfield. Just because it looks like the above bikeys doesn't mean it will ride like them.Sherpa said:
the only one it "looks" like is the VPP design...notice the reversed top link?The Kadvang said:
geez people really have a hard time with this...
Is that top link really gonna effect the axel path all that much? Looks like its gonna be driving the shock more than anything... e-Speculation at its finest.zedro said:
its gonna be expensive as hell. i mean the le dude was and that was jus a pretty bighit grom. w/ a buncha cnc
i wasn't saying it was copying the VPP/DW link or what ever else there is i was just saying it "looks" similar to the VPP design. It looks nice and i was just stating the similarities. I'm no eningineer or anything. I'm sure DW can chime in and discribe the differences between the designs to enlighten the rest of us.
It is VPP from 24's site "We have worked hard on our new frame to come in 2005: the FAT DADDY will be a hardcore freeride frame...
3 shock positions: 120-150, 170-200... All VPP"
3 shock positions: 120-150, 170-200... All VPP"
oh gimme an effing break with your e-speculation BS, the original V10 didnt even have a S shaped axle path.The Kadvang said:
My point is, the ONLY linkage system it ressembles is the VPP, because the VPP is the ONLY linkage system with a reversed link, excluding the scissor linkage which crosses itself.
To even bring up systems like Canfields just shows blantant ignorance....at least know some basics before you accuse people of talking out of their ass.
edit: and yes, that top link will have everything to do with the axel path
Jesus zerdo. Lay off Kadvang before e-hucks your mom. He musta struck a nerve, or is the complete ****tiness of mtbr getting to you?zedro said:oh gimme an effing break with your e-speculation BS, the original V10 didnt even have a S shaped axle path.
My point is, the ONLY linkage system it ressembles is the VPP, because the VPP is the ONLY linkage system with a reversed link, excluding the scissor linkage which crosses itself.
To even bring up systems like Canfields just shows blantant ignorance....at least know some basics before you accuse people of talking out of their ass.
edit: and yes, that top link will have everything to do with the axel path
... I know it didn't have an S shaped axel path. My point with that original post which you grossly misinterpreted, was that just because it "looks" like VPP, which it does, means it will preform like a v10, or a sunday, or a Faith. The canfield is also a 'virtual pivot', though it is designed to preform completly differently from the usuall rendition of VPP.zedro said:oh gimme an effing break with your e-speculation BS, the original V10 didnt even have a S shaped axle path.
My point is, the ONLY linkage system it ressembles is the VPP, because the VPP is the ONLY linkage system with a reversed link, excluding the scissor linkage which crosses itself.
To even bring up systems like Canfields just shows blantant ignorance....at least know some basics before you accuse people of talking out of their ass.
edit: and yes, that top link will have everything to do with the axel path
Wow I sound confused, oh well.
well thats not saying much, a V10 doesnt preform like a VP-Free either...The Kadvang said:
and FSRs are also "virtual pivots", as are Lawills, Karps, Ellsworths, Cortinas, 2-Steps, DWs.....
wow sorry i started all this i just said it looked similar 
being right isnt good enough here, you have to be on the 'cool' list to get away with it....ufdff15 said:wow sorry i started all this i just said it looked similar
Cmon guys, everyone knows Zedro gets touchy when u play with his VPP. When Zedro gets teased or stimulated he can blow up at any moment. Thats just the nature of his game. Zedro if your out there, Sooth yourself with the amazing burt reynolds pics i posted in the scoot thread. I tell you it will change ur life, you will not be the same.zedro said:
Right... I think that was the gist of what I was trying to say: "virtual pivot" does not only mean VPP in its manifestation in Intense Spyders, 5.5s, Uzzis, and M3, along with their SC counterparts... it can also mean a linkage such as the Canfield, which has a "virtual pivot" but preforms in a completely different manner.zedro said:
Ellsworths? How is ICT any different from FSR? Visually, it seems similar (only in the manner of the pivot being foreward and below of the axel). Another Tony patent like the ATLAS
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I think it only looks that way because the bike is being held at an angle.Duzitall said:The seat gusset doesn't bother me as much as the steep HT angle. What's up widat?
Racer-X has a nice avatar. Thanks for dat
Chris
how can you tell? its got no wheels, no fork, and is being held at an angle?Duzitall said:
mostly in where the ICs are located and there would be some variations in the axel path.The Kadvang said:Ellsworths? How is ICT any different from FSR? Visually, it seems similar (only in the manner of the pivot being foreward and below of the axel). Another Tony patent like the ATLAS
Got it.zedro said:
if they sell it in Europe only they dont need to pay anyone for patents 
looks good
looks good
it looks super nice....
so besides a discussion about the optical resemblance to a VPP(tm) nobody has any real info about this thing?
btw i need to say this: it looks flexy :evil:
btw i need to say this: it looks flexy
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well, it has two HA adjustments and three travel settings.UiUiUiUi said:so besides a discussion about the optical resemblance to a VPP(tm) nobody has any real info about this thing?
btw i need to say this: it looks flexy
who pee-pee'd in your Cornflakes buddy?zedro said:oh gimme an effing break with your e-speculation BS, the original V10 didnt even have a S shaped axle path.
My point is, the ONLY linkage system it ressembles is the VPP, because the VPP is the ONLY linkage system with a reversed link, excluding the scissor linkage which crosses itself.
To even bring up systems like Canfields just shows blantant ignorance....at least know some basics before you accuse people of talking out of their ass.
edit: and yes, that top link will have everything to do with the axel path
you should NEVER,EVER, challenge anything this man says. he is by far the coolest of the cool group on Ridemonkey and anything he says is right.
as for this man:
umm....ugly?Duzitall said:
yep,you're gay.
knobs like yourself....Racer-X said:
oooo wait that must be e-speculation on my part....