[GumbaFish]

I just found it hard to believe people were arguing against it because it was going to make it harder for them to get jobs. Once a more logical arguement like the idea of acts of hate then being directed towards possibly rehabillitated people was presented I admitted I agreed.

 

[Westy]

Everyones license plates should just be a list of all their convictions, tax evasion, speeding, DUI, jaywalking, hating freedom.

 

[sanjuro]

We can spout off as much as we want, but I suspect the ACLU and the courts will settle this issue...

 

[skinny mike]

colored license plates will probably bring public lynchings back in style...

 

[H8R]

he was just trying to live out his last years in complete privacy.

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

If you rape or molest you should be tattooed or better yet branded in the face. You should have to live on a fvcking deserted island or commit suicide to get some peace.

 

[$tinkle]

colored license plates will probably bring public lynchings back in style...

not sure if you realize it, but that's just wrong, yet pretty funny.

 

[$tinkle]

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

If you rape or molest you should be tattooed or better yet branded in the face. You should have to live on a fvcking deserted island or commit suicide to get some peace.

i think someone needs a roofie

 

[Silver]

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

What if you rape a child molester?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

If you rape or molest you should be tattooed or better yet branded in the face. You should have to live on a fvcking deserted island or commit suicide to get some peace.

So I take it you see the prison sentences for rapists are too lenient? Then lobby for harsher penalties (i.e. Death...).

But once the justice system deems that 20 years is their penance, and they serve it, don't be all double jeopardy on someone's ass just cause.

 

[$tinkle]

do you have to be an adult to be a child molester?

 

[GumbaFish]

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

If you rape or molest you should be tattooed or better yet branded in the face. You should have to live on a fvcking deserted island or commit suicide to get some peace.

Sounds like what you really want is for us to build a thunderdome and let them battle for our entertainment. Sweet!

 

[Silver]

do you have to be an adult to be a child molester?

I don't think so. Remember the underage girl who got charged for making child porn when she sent a photo of herself naked over the internet?

 

[$tinkle]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

 

[Silver]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

Dude, with Alberto Gonzales as the AG, anything is possible...

 

[stoney]

Maybe I'm a heartless f***, but there is no punishment harsh enough for child molesters. I say put them back into the general population. that should solve the problems regarding releasing them into the public after their sentence. Their likelyhood for survival is minimal.

 

[RenegadeRick]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

This IS the POTD.

 

[Toshi]

Now see the fact that their cars might get trashed or hate crimes commited is a good arguement against it. Too bad we dont have something like siberia, a couple years hard labor with tigers trying to eat you would probably set any man straight.

read the gulag archipelago, learn your history, and then come talk.

 

[Toshi]

Maybe I'm a heartless f***, but there is no punishment harsh enough for child molesters. I say put them back into the general population. that should solve the problems regarding releasing them into the public after their sentence. Their likelyhood for survival is minimal.

what about alcoholics who beat their wives? what about schizophrenics? what about meth users? should we just brand and kill them all? or is beating your wife after downing a fifth of jim beam a protected american activity?

 

[Silver]

what about alcoholics who beat their wives? what about schizophrenics? what about meth users? should we just brand and kill them all? or is beating your wife after downing a fifth of jim beam a protected american activity?

Mentally ill drug users and alcoholics? You're pretty much looking at Presidential qualifications there...

 

[Secret Squirrel]

what about alcoholics who beat their wives? what about schizophrenics? what about meth users? should we just brand and kill them all? or is beating your wife after downing a fifth of jim beam a protected american activity?

You're not from the 'south are ya?!

 

[Changleen]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

^
Knows the slang.

:worrying:

 

[Secret Squirrel]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

That reminds me of a buddy that worked IT here a few years ago. He went to this computer forensics class and had to find porn on these computers. But it was just any porn, it was kittie porn. Literally. Cats. Not doing nasty, disturbing things. Just pictures of cats. He got back from the class and told our boss that he had to find kittie porn. But he pronounced it kiddyporn....I could see my boss having an aneurysm. It was awesome.

 

[HOWDY]

for law: has kids ?
against law: has no kids ?

 

[GumbaFish]

read the gulag archipelago, learn your history, and then come talk.

Somebody isn't very good at detecting sarcasm are they?

 

[ohio]

I just found it hard to believe people were arguing against it because it was going to make it harder for them to get jobs. Once a more logical arguement like the idea of acts of hate then being directed towards possibly rehabillitated people was presented I admitted I agreed.

I assumed you were in support of the hate crimes.

 

[BurlyShirley]

what about alcoholics who beat their wives? what about schizophrenics? what about meth users? should we just brand and kill them all? or is beating your wife after downing a fifth of jim beam a protected american activity?

...beating a wife is bad, but its not child molestor bad. That's worse than murder if you ask me. Beating your wife is like DUI maybe.

 

[i-ride]

...beating a wife is bad, but its not child molestor bad. That's worse than murder if you ask me. Beating your wife is like DUI maybe.

i think the majority of ppl see it that way, too. and interestingly enough, violence is mostly a choice, whereas pedophilia is mostly an illness. ironic how we are more apt to empathize with a person who chooses to beat their wife than we are with a person who has a biochemical problem.

 

[BurlyShirley]

i think the majority of ppl see it that way, too. and interestingly enough, violence is mostly a choice, whereas pedophilia is mostly an illness. ironic how we are more apt to empathize with a person who chooses to beat their wife than we are with a person who has a biochemical problem.

Sometimes wifes deserve it. Kids never do. (unless they're really sexy I mean)

 

[syadasti]

i think the majority of ppl see it that way, too. and interestingly enough, violence is mostly a choice, whereas pedophilia is mostly an illness. ironic how we are more apt to empathize with a person who chooses to beat their wife than we are with a person who has a biochemical problem.

Its also strange that its OK to show extreme violence on US TV but even minor sexual content is banned from the airwaves. Stupid puritan heritagelthumbsdown:

Criminal violence isn't any more acceptable than sexual crimes.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Its also strange that its OK to show extreme violence on US TV but even minor sexual content is banned from the airwaves. Stupid puritan heritagelthumbsdown:
.

Uh...where is minor sexual content banned from TV? EVERY show on primetime TV has alot of it, MTV is full of it, all movies are full of it...shall I continue?

 

[syadasti]

Uh...where is minor sexual content banned from TV? EVERY show on primetime TV has alot of it, MTV is full of it, all movies are full of it...shall I continue?

I said airwaves (not cable) - heavily FCC regulated - no minor sexual content like plain front nudity. Violent content is just as harmful to children and yet its easy to find in primetime TV.

The Law

What are the statutes and rules regarding the broadcast of obscene, indecent, and profane programming? Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 1464, prohibits the utterance of “any obscene, indecent or profane language by means of radio communication.” Consistent with a subsequent statute and court case, the Commission's rules prohibit the broadcast of indecent material during the period of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. FCC decisions also prohibit the broadcast of profane material between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. Civil enforcement of these requirements rests with the FCC, and is an important part of the FCC's overall responsibilities. At the same time, the FCC must be mindful of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and Section 326 of the Communications Act, which prohibit the FCC from censoring program material, or interfering with broadcasters' free speech rights.

What makes material “obscene?” Obscene speech is not protected by the First Amendment and broadcasters are prohibited, by statute and regulation, from airing obscene programming at any time. According to the U.S. Supreme Court, to be obscene, material must meet a three-prong test: (1) an average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest (i.e., material having a tendency to excite lustful thoughts); (2) the material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and (3) the material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. The Supreme Court has indicated that this test is designed to cover hard-core pornography.

What makes material “indecent?” Indecent material contains sexual or excretory material that does not rise to the level of obscenity. For this reason, the courts have held that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment and cannot be banned entirely. It may, however, be restricted to avoid its broadcast during times of the day when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. The FCC has determined, with the approval of the courts, that there is a reasonable risk that children will be in the audience from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., local time. Therefore, the FCC prohibits station licensees from broadcasting indecent material during that period.

Material is indecent if, in context, it depicts or describes sexual or excretory organs or activities in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium. In each case, the FCC must determine whether the material describes or depicts sexual or excretory organs or activities and, if so, whether the material is “patently offensive.”

In our assessment of whether material is “patently offensive,” context is critical. The FCC looks at three primary factors when analyzing broadcast material: (1) whether the description or depiction is explicit or graphic; (2) whether the material dwells on or repeats at length descriptions or depictions of sexual or excretory organs; and (3) whether the material appears to pander or is used to titillate or shock. No single factor is determinative. The FCC weighs and balances these factors because each case presents its own mix of these, and possibly other, factors.

What makes material “profane?” “Profane language” includes those words that are so highly offensive that their mere utterance in the context presented may, in legal terms, amount to a “nuisance.” In its Golden Globe Awards Order the FCC warned broadcasters that, depending on the context, it would consider the “F-Word” and those words (or variants thereof) that are as highly offensive as the “F-Word” to be “profane language” that cannot be broadcast between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

 

[BurlyShirley]

I guess shows like ER, Scrubs, Desperate Housewives, etc. etc. have no sexual content in your mind? I dont watch them much, but I can tell you thats not true for sure.
Any particular reason you need full frontal nudity in those shows?

 

[laura]

Obviously they already teach in schools not to get in cars with strangers, but they could elaborate on that by letting kids know the dangers of people with a different colored plate especially. Also it would allow adults to keep better tabs on the situation, say if Joe sex offender happens to park outside of the school when it gets out every day yet has no children himself. I'm sorry I guess we should just issue every sex offender an ice cream truck and a lifetime supply of viagara so they can just pursue what makes them happy.

You do realize that not all sex offenders are horrible child molesters and rapists right?

Will they have different shades of green for the 20 year old that pissed off his under aged girlfriend's dad and got arrested for Stat rape? (and don't hit me with that "oh sure, pick out the one thing that doesn't happen too often. It's quite popular around here) How about the hookers and repeat offending johns? Can they get like a blue or yellow plate, because I am not afraid of hookers but I am afraid of rapists.

And what about those creepy rapists that *gasp* don't drive cars, or use their mom's car (because you know they still live with their mom) when they go out to pick up little kids to molest. How about the rapists that hang out in the woods and grab runners off the trail, will they have some kind of marking or should I just assume, when they tie me to a tree, that they are probably a sexual offender?

It's just a silly law to make people "feel" more safe.

Sexual offenders who want to "offend" will do it, no matter what. It's not that hard to get around a license plate and frankly, I'd rather not know that the old man parked next to me at the grocery store got arrested for child porn 10 years ago.

 

[syadasti]

I guess shows like ER, Scrubs, Desperate Housewives, etc. etc. have no sexual content in your mind? I dont watch them much, but I can tell you thats not true for sure.
Any particular reason you need full frontal nudity in those shows?

I didn't say I needed it. My point is the extremely violent content on primetime TV shows these days is just as if not more harmful to children and yet its acceptable.

As an example, I am sure Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction was such a harmful assault on our youth worthy of huge fineslthumbsdown:

 

[BurlyShirley]

I didn't say I needed it. My point is the extremely violent content on TV shows these days is just as if not more harmful to children and yet its common these days.

As an example, I am sure Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction was such a harmful assault on our youth worthy of huge fineslthumbsdown:

Well personally I think your placing the blame in the wrong place. Im fairly certain that the same people who campaign against nudity/sexual content on TV are also campaigning against excessive violence and the like. They, of late, seem to be losing on both fronts, so blame the FCC for the inconsistency, not the "puritan heritage" or whatever you're getting at.

 

[Westy]

Just cut their nuts off and be done with it.

 

[syadasti]

They, of late, seem to be losing on both fronts, so blame the FCC for the inconsistency, not the "puritan heritage" or whatever you're getting at.

Well go to Europe and check out their primetime TV. Having the strict puritanical broadcasting standards or banning video games isn't going to make the difference - real parenting is.

 

[BurlyShirley]

Just cut their nuts off and be done with it.

That'll just make them be able to penetrate beyond "balls deep"

 

[BurlyShirley]

Well go to Europe and check out their primetime TV. Having the strict puritanical broadcasting standards isn't going to make the difference - real parenting is.

I agree with that. But having some standard of decency on the public airwaves isnt too crazy if you ask me.

 

[$tinkle]

and interestingly enough, violence is mostly a choice, whereas pedophilia is mostly an illness.

i still see acting on their urges as...uhhhh...acting on their urges. saying they have an illness doesn't excuse them from accountability.

ironic how we are more apt to empathize with a person who chooses to beat their wife than we are with a person who has a biochemical problem.

never met a wife beater i'd want to party with. is there some sick sub-culture in western society who coddles wife beaters that i don't know about?

also, if it's treatable through chemical castration, you'd be for that? all other options considered beforehand, of course.

i would.