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Netguy

Monkey
Nov 8, 2004
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Whistler
Ok...not to sure how to say this, so I am just going to say it.

It sucks big time, after you spend all weekend building a new kicker and tranny (top section...i think you have all seen it, or at least most of you rode past while it was being constructed), to come out during the week, and see the kicker "dismantled" and re-sculptured.

If you have ideas on how it can be better or safer, please let it be known, however don't come in and make it how "you" want it. 3 people spent time putting that together, including having the take-off supported by vertical uprights, that were driven into the ground, and then horizontal boards to hold the dirt in. As you know, it doesnt take 5 minutes to build something like that, however it looks like all it took was 5 minutes to tear it down.

Also, the reason why there was a X on the kicker as well as the tranny, as well as a old lawnmower on the approach line is because I didnt want people hitting it, until the clay had time to harden during the week. Also, and most importantly, it was not finished. I believe since I took my weekend to build it, I get to decide when its ready for riding.

I am not trying to own it, just trying to make my creation good for everybody.

Ash
 
Jun 18, 2004
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I hate to say it but that stuff happens all the time at Sst... it's nothing new... I remember longhaired Andy saying the same thing about a kicker about 10 months ago...
 

Netguy

Monkey
Nov 8, 2004
609
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Whistler
Yeah I agree...however this was pretty blunt though.

Just imaging if somebody dismantled the new double at the bottom....took all the wood away, and just left a pile of dirt. Kinda the same thing. Took forever to find the wood to use.

I dont mind if somebody packs it down or modifies the lip to make it better, however if you looked at this take-off, you would have known that alot of work went into it.
 

Netguy

Monkey
Nov 8, 2004
609
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Whistler
BIGHIT756 said:
ya dude, that jump needs some help. I wish i could of hit it when it was original. itd be sweet with a berm!!!
Yeah, that lip was sweet. I was just waiting for the clay to dry, so you could make it to the tranny.
A burm is a good idea. Either that or the straigh line approach I showed you today, where bushes would have to be cleared out. The tranny still needs to come back at least a foot though, to make it more flowy, and so everybody can hit it.
 

DesuL

Monkey
Nov 21, 2005
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Yah you guys were there pretty late building that thing. If its the one im thinking of to bad someone ruined it.

My $.02 is a berm into it cause berms are fun... But thats just me.. Maybe one day ill have the balls to try a jump like that..
 
Dec 16, 2005
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I came off of that sand filled...NO CLAY havin jump and almost split my lid when the boards failed misribly. So I reshaped this terrible jump with no back support and hit it smooth as butter. Nuff said Im Out....
 

Netguy

Monkey
Nov 8, 2004
609
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Whistler
Sand filled? The entire take-off was clay! The tranny was mostly sand though.

However, all the clay used was very soft, it needed a good week to harden, and some rain to make it settle.

When I put logs on the kicker and tranny, in the shape of an X, as well as a lawnmower right in front of the kicker, and wrote CAUTION, WET CLAY just before the booter, I thought that would be enough to make somebody stop for a second and think about it. However in this case I guess your balls were bigger than your brain.

Oh, and I didn't notice any of the supporting boards or posts broken. They were just laying there, as if somebody hit the jump, wrecked and then tore it apart in frustration.

Honestly though, I hope you didnt hurt yourself. Just try to pay more attention next time you see something that is blocked off.

Ash
 

fuzzycatnuts

Monkey
Dec 14, 2005
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SpcilizedKing - obviousouy you dont build jumps or you would realize that after a jump is first built it is going to be really soft untell it rains and then drys out(it has not rained in 2 weeks). You would also have enough respect to the people who spent two days building it to leave it alone untill they opened it up.

Just curious where you got the dirt from to "fix" the jump that was so much better than what we used. It looked like you went to hit the jump and bailed out last minute and took out the lip then tried to fix it with your feet. If you removed the stuff that was blocking the jump then you deserved to crash. The 3 people who built it tested it out and came short becuse it was so soft, thats why we blocked it off.

The jump needs a berm for sure. Anyone that feels like digging one is welcome to. I hit the jump today and its good, landing could be higher once people get used to it. Good job on fixing it Ash!
 
Dec 16, 2005
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Oh, and I didn't notice any of the supporting boards or posts broken. They were just laying there.
Thats because I blew through them like the big bad wolf.

The entire take-off was clay!
I think that you need to take a geology class or something....

The 3 people who built it tested it out and came short becuse it was so soft, thats why we blocked it off.
I think that maybe you just cant jump and started right above the jump in that little cutout instead from the culdesack

Just imaging if somebody dismantled the new double at the bottom....took all the wood away, and just left a pile of dirt. Kinda the same thing. Took forever to find the wood to use.
I think that AJ and Travis built the one at the bottom (which is fun by the way)

I have been buildin jumps when you were still on training wheels. I think that you need to learn how to build a lip a little thicker than three inches. Also jumps that are not supported with two twigs and a bunch of pickets from the houses that used to be there. Anything else?
 

britinmtb

Chimp
Apr 7, 2005
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kent
this is the worst thing i could ever here. "specializedking". if you know how to build jump then what the hell is out a seatac. you call that a lip please take off the trainging wheels" thanks for the word bighit756". netguy he can build a lip dont you know when jumps are not ready. you must be blind because i can see soft dirt a mile away. i think you need to go back to school to learn how to build. better yet dont pick up a shovel. do us all a favor.
cheers
britinmtb
 
Dec 16, 2005
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The jump at the bottom was being jumped right after they built it so maybe you dont know how to pack jumps very well. And once again there was no clay. jokester. and when clay is wet it is mushy and needs no water it needs sun!!
 

britinmtb

Chimp
Apr 7, 2005
30
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kent
ya matt and aj can build but you can't. face it, it sound like your going through a mid life crisis. please set the shovel down and step away. we will all be safe this way. sorry it had to end like this. anyways
netguy when is the next time you are hitting it up i will be there on the 9.5. you get the new wheel yet??
 
Dec 16, 2005
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Tell me too and I can show you how to throw some sand in the sand box. You infant builders. The jump was easy to clear so I think that you cant ride either.
 

BIGHIT756

Monkey
Jan 6, 2004
435
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Maple Valley, Washington
OH ****!! all hail the king he clreared the huge double!!!! dude why are you bragging about such a small jump??? hit up the big **** then pop off. btw...britinmtb has been in more magazines than porno mags you get stuck at home reading.
 
Dec 16, 2005
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tell me what mag and who he is cuz your full of it man. I have been in hustler but that is just because my balls are bigger than my head. Or atleast that is what you have said.
 

BIGHIT756

Monkey
Jan 6, 2004
435
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Maple Valley, Washington
lol..everything at sea tac isnt that big. if you want big, lets go hit the trail gap. lets meet there and ill do it on my GOD DAMND HARDTAIL. and wow the trees! your mom spread her legs wider than that for the garbage man. i would of but it just stank to much...
 
Dec 16, 2005
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Trail gap on your hardtail? I am calling you out! When are you free from riding around with the garbage man. Name the time and I will be there.
 
Dec 16, 2005
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Funny that good ol big hit wouldnt tell me who it was or when he was going to hit the trail gap on his hardtail, so we can all come and watch his feats of strength.

Im over it all. We all know the jump sucked. thats it bye bye
 

Skookum

bikey's is cool
Jul 26, 2002
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in a bear cave
Hmm it's sad to see people who probably could get along fine with each other on the trail, be dicks to each other on the webbe. SpecializedKing if you've been building jumps since the youngins were on training wheels why don't you share the info instead of being a dick.
Unless you guys got some beef that's outside the boards in which case it's pretty lame to bring to the boards.

The local board here on RM has a long tradition of people being cool to each other for the most part...
 

DesuL

Monkey
Nov 21, 2005
290
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My names Ghetto Dave and I ride for the Me myself and I company. Im super not famous and have appeared in 1 newspaper.. It was a great picture of me at the beach when I was 1.5 and damn the fame that came with that...

But really, ill happily hit the trail gapper on my hardtail if someone buys me a new fork. Mine is a POS and already hates me. Id rather spend money building a FS bike then buy a new fork. SO you buy me fork, I show you ninja skills
 

fuzzycatnuts

Monkey
Dec 14, 2005
944
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Specilizedking- if your such a experanced builder please post some pictures of what you have done, also what have you built at seatac. Why are you braging about hitting everything at seatac, nothing there is big. You never answerd my question about where you got the dirt to make our jump so much better(you didnt put any dirt on it and the thing is as hard as any other jump there now). Your saying I dont know how to jump but your the one that "almost busted his lid" on the jump and trashed the lip. I hit it when the gap was bigger and the lip was softer and I did not blow the lip out, nice try tough. I would like to talk to you face to face, my name is Kim, I ride a azonic full suspention and a 243 hard tail. The jump the AJ and Travis built was not done in one day, it took them about a week before it was done, it was also built when the dirt was better, not after 2 weeks of no rain. Please post your name and what you ride so everyone knows who you are and we dont have to talk this **** over the internet, lets do it face to face.
 

Netguy

Monkey
Nov 8, 2004
609
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Whistler
Yeah...i think face to face is better than filling up the message boards.

Anyway, you can find me riding either an 06 SX Trial or an 04 Black Demo9. We can have a nice chat, and talk about how to build booters!

Ash
 

boostindoubles

Nacho Libre
Mar 16, 2004
7,839
6,145
Yakistan
i miss snap magazine.

and digging trails is a ton of fun, and is better in a community atmosphere than alone or with one other head. Many shovels make light work. Imagine all the **** you all could build if you stopped bickering and worked together with all your years of combined experience. i mean i would drive out from eastern washington and ride sst with pleasure. :)
 
Dec 16, 2005
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I take back any mean things I said. I was just messin.

In all reality that jump was unsafe. I walked up the lip and watched all the boards flex. I then rolled up the lip with speed and the top board broke (then I threw it in the bush so that is why you didn't find it).

So with a big peice of concrete in the middle and a lip that would break and send someone into the pit, I decided to push the dirt over the top and fill up the backside for support instead of the boards. You now wouldn't go through the lip and brake those tiny boards holding up the lip.

So be mad if you want but most of that was just clownin...and I want SST to be safe and there for a while...


Crappis:)