I don't like them at all what do you guys think?
stance good or bad
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was it necessary to start a new thread for this, with the two available for you to post your comments inTheMontashu said:
ghettogt said no, jewy
well tell ghetto that he needs to fix his junk(truk) and his junk(bike)The Kadvang said:
clamidiachicodude01 said:
i have a kingpin. i have had a problem with the air assist, but if you call them up they have a fix for the problem and they will send you new(and improved) seals for free. one thing you have to remember that anything new is going to have teething problems. as for function that fork feels great and is very controlled.
I have a static 100mm and has worked fir so far. holds air, air makes a noticeable difference, seals havent popped out. A little weeping on the stanchions but nothing bad. with 20 psi in it, it never comes close to bottoming on my 190+ lb carcass
you want it to bottom jest not off evory hitauntesther said:
Thats what I wanna hear. And jewy, people running these 3-4 inch forks are generally using them to ride street, and pumpin em up super stiff for that, so they may not bottom at all.scurban said:
no you want it to use all of its travel not, bottom outTheMontashu said:
And how, exactly, do you propose to go about using all of your travel without bottoming out?Curb Hucker said:
I mean, is bottoming out not the very definition of "using all of your travel"? With anything less than bottoming, NOT using all of it?
No, you don't want it to bottom out really hard, but if you're bottoming hard, I almost guarantee you're going to be bottoming a lot.
actually I dont..its on a park jump bike and I would rather have used an 80mm version but to slacken the HA out a bit, I use a 100mm version...I dont really want 100mm of travel so the 3" or so that I get is fine by me. its stiff, doesnt move alot and takes the edge of landings. just what I wantTheMontashu said:
my friend has the blunt it came on his chase 2 and that bottoms out like no other way to much expecially for a park bike
Ive always used the term bottom out when you feel a nice big clunk, because your fork is poorly tuned for what you are doing. You can go through all of your travel and never feel the clunk or harsh bottom out if you have a properly set up fork.
Incorrect spring weight.bballboy388 said:
Air tuning is no substitute for a correct spring rate.
My opinion, i hate sherman breakouts, flicks or whatever u call them b/c it's not open bath so then u have to get the correct spring rate which sucks. I had my share of owning a breakout and a flick, always had to get a new spring. Marzocchi's mainly needs heavier oil and which saves u time and money.
whats ur stance on the stance HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA ZING
TankerX said:
Oil levels and weight is a lousy way of substituting for a good spring rate. All forks and shocks will perform sub-par with an incorrect spring weight, no matter what "band-aid" technique you use to try and compensate.
That's just a poor excuse. I'm not pro-Marz or pro-Manitou, I'll just use what suits my needs best, but saying, "Manitou forks suck because you need the correct spring rate" is just sad...
Manitou forks suck because you need the correct spring rate!!!
I agree that incorrect spring weight will lead to bad performance, but the ability to change oil height is a fine tuning method, and not a band-aid. Granted, it very well could be when someone dumps too much of a heavy weight oil in a fork with a low spring weight. Used correctly though, i'd say oil height and weight can help provide optimal performance. This would first require the correct springs, as you stated, though.binary visions said:
Oil levels and weight is a lousy way of substituting for a good spring rate. All forks and shocks will perform sub-par with an incorrect spring weight, no matter what "band-aid" technique you use to try and compensate.
That's just a poor excuse. I'm not pro-Marz or pro-Manitou, I'll just use what suits my needs best, but saying, "Manitou forks suck because you need the correct spring rate" is just sad...
Undoubtedly! The method of adding oil or increasing weight is a great way to fine tune your fork, and it's a very nice side-effect (or designed in? Who knows...) of the open bath design.HRDTLBRO said:
In this particular case, though, statements like:
...drive me up the wall. If you're going to dislike a product, dislike it based on the product's merits or issues, not based on whether or not you're too damn lazy to buy the correct spring for your forkTankerX said:
Ahh well, can't correct the entire world's ignorance, right?
guys, u get it? whats youre STANCE on the STANCE! eh?! eh!?
happypants we all get but reframe from commenting on it
Lord, Jm, you make some stupid comments.Jm_ said:And oversprung forks are a lousy way of substituting for progressiveness.
We're not talking about fork function, we're not talking about preferences, I simply said that you should not substitute band-aid fixes for actually going out and having a properly sprung fork. That applies to any fork on the market.
Snide comments only serve to damage your own credibility; you make them too often and it becomes impossible to distinguish between your actual helpful information and your blind brand hatred.
right back at you.
damn, you might as well have bitch slapped himbinary visions said:Lord, Jm, you make some stupid comments.
Snide comments only serve to damage your own credibility; you make them too often and it becomes impossible to distinguish between your actual helpful information and your blind brand hatred.
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