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stance kingpin woes

vwmtnbiker

Monkey
May 15, 2004
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manasscrack
so i decided to go DC on my bike and ended up going with the stance kingpin as the pro-deal price through my shop is silly cheap. banging my head agains the wall now as i am currently the proud owner of a 7" almost rigid fork.

i had the thing on my bike for a total of 3 rides and its obvious that something is terribly wrong. when the fork is warm, 50* and above, it seems to work just OK, rebound is still much slower than my friends exact same fork. when cold it has almost NO rebound when weighted and is stiff as all get-out. now im no rocket scientist i know however it seems something is awry with this thing, and of course answer is closed for the holiday until monday. just wondering if anyone has any ideas? oh btw there is almost no difference when cold between having 25 psi and 0 psi in the chamber.

ideas anyone? it seems this 'wonderful' eco. DC fork is quite inconsistent, darn glad i didnt pay retail on 'er
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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chez moi
I'd normally tell you to go the Answer website and get the tech manual, then take the fork apart, but the Stance line isn't apparently on there yet. The 2003 Slider, however, should be really similar...but I can't say whether it's disassembled in the exact same manner, nor do I know the proper oil height for a Kingpin.

If you're comfortable doing this stuff, take it apart and tell us what you find...it's a simple arrangement, with one side being a damper and one side being a spring. Your problem lies within one of these legs. Since it's temperature-dependent, I bet it's the damper side. Might have gotten a bad TPC+ assembly, which wouldn't shock me...I love Manitou, but their QC still sucks. So, it might just be an oil height issue in there, or it might be the mechanism itself.

Either way, I'd call Manitou before doing anything, unless you're really confident in your ability to work on the fork or are willing to risk it and not whine if you break anything. Otherwise, wait (I know it's hard) and have the shop send it to Manitou on warranty. They'll turn it around for you quickly. Not what you want to hear, I know, but unless someone here comes along with some silver bullet to fix you (unlikely), that's your best option.

Replacing a TPC+ assembly, however, is a 20-minute job, so if that's the problem, maybe Manitou will just send one to your shop for them to replace for you. They won't send stuff to consumers directly anymore for warranty issues; they'll talk to you on the phone and tell you what parts you need, but a shop needs to place the actual order for you.

MD
 

captainpolution

Turbo Monkey
Nov 18, 2004
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oil gets thicker when its cold, my LBS has bikes outside the shop when they are open and the forks all get still at like 50 degrees F
 

vwmtnbiker

Monkey
May 15, 2004
129
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manasscrack
hey thanks for all the replys...

took it apart today at work (cos we were SOOOO swamped :think: ) and couldnt really find anything out of the ordinary, so i figured that i had a bad damper assembly. figuring it wouldnt be any worse we threw it back together and oddly enough now it works GREAT! kinda like resetting the computer when its not working. there did seem to be a lack of grease around the seals and things didnt really want to move too freely so a liberal amount of grease was applied and that seems to have fixed it. so NOW i'd have to say its a great value and a really sweet feeling fork. cant wait to get it on the trails.
 

vwmtnbiker

Monkey
May 15, 2004
129
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manasscrack
best i can figure it wasnt put together properly at the factory...as far as a true review of the fork i cant say for sure yet, tomorrow hopefully i'll get to do at least some light stuff with it and hopefully get a feel for it...but for the price its really not too bad a gamble...worst case you can always ebay it for at least what you paid