[azonicbruce]

Well, it's been about 6 months since I first started using Stan's so I thought I'd give a not-too-elaborate review of what my experience has been.

Overall, I'd say the Stan's NoTubes system has been pretty nice. In the entire 6 months of using the system, I've had a total of 1 flat bad enough to end a ride (which for El Paso, TX is pratically a miracle considering the thorn count in this part of the country)

A few observations/comments/etc.:

1) Yes, installing the rimstrips onto Sun Ryhno Lite XLs was a royal pain in the !@#$. It simply took a lot of soapy water and PATIENCE.

2) Getting Michelin Comp 24s inflated the first time required a compressor. Couldn't for the life of me do it with a floor pump

3) You MUST maintain the "freshness" of the sealant running in the tires. This is the only reason I got a flat. It had been about a month and a half since I first put sealant in and on a ride I ran over a nail and by then the sealant was too "watered down" to do anything and went flat (again, for El Paso that's a pretty long time considering the amount of sunlight and heat). SO, make sure you put in a small amount every once in awhile.

4)After using Stan's for about 6 months, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT even think about taking your tire off the rim! This is where the POO-POO part of my title comes in. What you will encounter will be one of the most disgusting things you'll see in your life, almost as nasty as childbirth. What do you expect I guess; you've got this goopy slop sloshing around and festering in a sealed, damp, lightless environment for 6 months for crying out loud. Anyway, take a look at the pics of what you get to enjoy when you decide you want to try new tires:

In conclusion, overall I've been very pleased with Stan's and will be using the system again with my new wheelset/tires that I'll be getting. After seeing how many thorns/metal chips/glass were stuck in my tire after 6 months of riding/commuting, I definitely think it's worth the money.

 

[dexterq20]

WTF? I've never heard of things growing inside your tires. That's kinda icky.

 

[chicodude]

yep thats just gross

 

[zedro]

weird, left my Stans goop over the winter using my getto setup, never did that. In fact i simply re-used the Stans goop when i switched over to the 823s....

...yes, i am that cheap

 

[Acadian]

how much sealant did you have in there in the first place? it says 2 scoops, not 2 bottles

 

[Dartman]

Last time I saw something like that it came off this guy...

Mike

 

[binary visions]

That's interesting. I have the exact same setup - Rhyno Lite XLs, Stan's strips, and Michelin Comp24s. It required no soapy water, to install either the rimstrips or the tires, and the tires could be easily inflated by hand.

Glad to hear it's working out for you though! I love the tubeless setup...

 

[MTB_Rob_NC]

how much sealant did you have in there in the first place? it says 2 scoops, not 2 bottles

Thats what I was thinking. I mean I have the goopedy goop strings of terror around the edge of the tire and rim when it comes off, but thats about it.

When replacing a the old Stans poo-poo strands are great to hold onto and then throw them on unsuspecting co-workers desks and let them wonder what the heck it is. neaky:

 

[CBJ]

My I add DO NOT use stans and single ply High Rollers for DH use. Not that it is a big surprise to me but that it was Orange for some reason supplied me with.

 

[Matt D]

That's very odd how yellow/orange it is. The goo has always stayed white on mine for the most part.

Why not use it on single ply High Rollers? I've use Stans on single ply's in the past and currently have Minion's (on my trailbike, not DH bike). I have slow leaks on the Minions right now, but I have yet to explored why that may be.

 

[azonicbruce]

how much sealant did you have in there in the first place? it says 2 scoops, not 2 bottles

Well, initially I only did put 2 scoops. 1 week after installing Stan's I hit something on the road and Stan's went flyin' everywhere. I stopped to get off and Stan's finally sealed it up. I don't know how much I lost, but then about 5 weeks later I was on a trail ride and somehow there was a roofing nail on the trail. Got off the bike as soon as I heard the leak and the Stan's just didn't seal this time. Al it was doing as spewing watery stuff. Had to take off tire and install a regualr tube.

So after that incident I just kept putting in two scoops after every month or two, just to make sure it was fresh. Never got a flat again although I picked up plenty of thorns/nails/glass and it sealed right up. So it's possible that I did just have a ton of Stan's riding around in there, enough to coat it like it did.

 

[azonicbruce]

That's interesting. I have the exact same setup - Rhyno Lite XLs, Stan's strips, and Michelin Comp24s. It required no soapy water, to install either the rimstrips or the tires, and the tires could be easily inflated by hand.

Glad to hear it's working out for you though! I love the tubeless setup...

Hmm. Yeah for me it was really difficult getting the rim strip to propery sit right under the lip of the rim where the bead is supposed to sit. I had to stretch it first but if I didn't use soapy water then the strip would bunch up on the other side.

As far as inflating, it was only the initial installation that required it. After that if I had to reinstall the tire I could do it with a floor pump.

 

[azonicbruce]

OH, and as far as the color/smell/nastiness, yeah I have no clue why. Perhaps it's the blistering heat here in El Paso

 

[zedro]

maybe it was contaminated and reacted to something?

 

[CBJ]

That's very odd how yellow/orange it is. The goo has always stayed white on mine for the most part.

Why not use it on single ply High Rollers? I've use Stans on single ply's in the past and currently have Minion's (on my trailbike, not DH bike). I have slow leaks on the Minions right now, but I have yet to explored why that may be.

I think it depends on where you ride. I mostly ride Diablo/Mt Creek where there is a lot of small rocks. The single ply has two problems in that terrain where you contantly hit small rocks and because of the soft side wall the tire compresses with 28 psi - and dings the rim. The second problem is that the thin side wall the to easy cuts open between the rim and the rocks with to big cuts for the stans to fix.

 

[azonicbruce]

That's very odd how yellow/orange it is. The goo has always stayed white on mine for the most part.

Why not use it on single ply High Rollers? I've use Stans on single ply's in the past and currently have Minion's (on my trailbike, not DH bike). I have slow leaks on the Minions right now, but I have yet to explored why that may be.

Are your Minions Single Ply or the DH casing?

Those are the new tires I'll be running (Minion DH). Let me know if there are any tips for using that tire with Stan's. Does anybody know if Stan's will react weird to the SRY compound of the Minions?

 

[Macrider]

Are your Minions Single Ply or the DH casing?

Those are the new tires I'll be running (Minion DH). Let me know if there are any tips for using that tire with Stan's. Does anybody know if Stan's will react weird to the SRY compound of the Minions?

I run both types of Minions - on my RFX I've got Minion dual-ply 2.5's w/Stan's - work great, no problems at all

on both my XCE and my Bruiser ht - I've got single-ply Minions 2.35 w/Stan's - I use the XCE for aggresive XC & the Bruiser for dirt jumping - the Minions work great for both

I would NOT recommend the single-ply Minions for DH/heavy freeride - the sidewalls get slashed pretty easy and Stan's has a tough time sealing a big sidewall tear (although Superglue on the outside of the tear can help)

 

[DIRTWRKS]

Well my experiance with Stan's was mixed, initially I was happy with the product until I started running lower "22 to 24 PSI" pressure during my last few races to try and get some extra grip in excessive muddy conditions up here in Quebec.

At those pressures running a Michelin Comp 16 I have experianced several total loss of presure sitautions where the bead of the tire momentarily looses it seal with the rim causing loss of all or most of the air pressure.
It' happened to me on a Mavic D321, 521, Arrow DH and Arrow FR rims. The problem appears to occur more frequently on narrow rims like the Arrow FR and Mavic 521. Anyone else have this happen to them.

 

[zedro]

Well my experiance with Stan's was mixed, initially I was happy with the product until I started running lower "22 to 24 PSI" pressure during my last few races to try and get some extra grip in excessive muddy conditions up here in Quebec.

At those pressures running a Michelin Comp 16 I have experianced several total loss of presure sitautions where the bead of the tire momentarily looses it seal with the rim causing loss of all or most of the air pressure.
It' happened to me on a Mavic D321, 521, Arrow DH and Arrow FR rims. The problem appears to occur more frequently on narrow rims like the Arrow FR and Mavic 521. Anyone else have this happen to them.

you arent supposed to be running those low pressures with Michelins, in fact it can be detrimental to traction because the tire starts loosing its shape. I was making this mistake with the Comp32s at 20-22psi; after raising it to 30psi i was actually getting better traction.