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Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
The ultral liberal company that ultral liberals love to hate is on the grow... opening on average 6 stores a day.

This reminds me... I am outta here so I can get my morning venti quad carmel macchiato!




Starbucks Pursues Aggressive Expansion
Oct 25 8:52 PM US/Eastern
By ALLISON LINN
AP Business Writer


SEATTLE

The people who work in Seattle's tallest building face a tough decision: should they get their caffeinated indulgence at the old Starbucks on the building's first floor or the new Starbucks, 40 floors up? And, if those lines are too long, is it too far to walk across the street, where a third Starbucks awaits?
Starbucks Corp.'s recently announced goal of having 40,000 stores worldwide isn't just about spreading green awnings through middle America, the Middle East and other areas of the world not yet tempted by easy access to mocha Frappuccinos and pumpkin spice lattes.

The coffee chain's aggressive growth also hinges on what the company calls "infill" _ adding stores in cities where its mermaid logo is already commonplace. In some cases, that means putting a Starbucks within a block of an existing store, if not closer.

While Starbucks knows there's plenty to lure people into their stores, they also recognize that many people can't be bothered to walk very far _ or wait very long _ for an optional and pricey treat.

"Going to the other side of the street can be a barrier," said Launi Skinner, senior vice president in charge of Starbucks' store development.

As Starbucks adds a whopping six stores a day on average, the company says it continues to carefully consider everything from the direction of commuter traffic zipping by a potential drive-through site to how many people are pounding the pavement on a busy urban block.

As of Oct. 3, Starbucks had 12,440 stores worldwide, including 7,102 company-operated stores and 5,338 licensed locations. In addition to choosing its company-operated locations, Starbucks also has a say in where licensed stores will be located.

In Vancouver, Canada, such planning has meant adding stores on either side of a busy intersection. In New York, there are two Starbucks in one Macy's, as well as two in the 49-story Marriott Marquis hotel.

Starbucks also is flooding some smaller cities. In Spokane, Wash., two Starbucks sit across from each other in a strip mall and a grocery store, close enough that baristas could toss pounds of coffee beans at one another if they wanted to.

Despite such saturation _ and plans for much more _ Starbucks insists that it sees very little cannibalization of its existing business when a new store opens. In fact, the company says, one reason would-be customers don't end up buying a Starbucks drink is because the line is too long. One solution is to open up another store nearby.

Starbucks says about 60 percent of stores have a wait time of three minutes or less, but the company doesn't track specifically how long the wait has to be before people decide to pass.

Chief Executive Jim Donald dismisses any notion that the company could experience oversaturation as it continues to plop Starbucks near other Starbucks.

"We haven't felt it yet," he quipped recently.

It takes co-workers Joshua Sanders and Megan Scott about one minute to reach the Starbucks just outside their downtown Seattle office. Sometimes, the two will walk another minute or so to another Starbucks about half a block away, because that Starbucks sells hot breakfast sandwiches and the closer one doesn't. On a recent weekday morning, both were bustling.

One thing Sanders and Scott won't do is stop for coffee at Starbucks competitor Tully's Coffee Corp., even though it's in their building and they actually walk past it to get to Starbucks.

Asked why he favors Starbucks, Sanders said: "It's the coffee."

It's highly unusual for a company to be able to add so many stores so close together and still see the kind of consistently strong sales growth Starbucks can boast, said John Owens, an equity analyst with Morningstar.

"At some stage there (are) limits to their expansion, but to date we really haven't seen any signs that they are near that point," Owens said.

Still, Owens said there are risks a company faces when it builds out quickly. He noted that McDonald's Corp. suffered after an attempt to expand rapidly in the 1990s. McDonald's has more than 30,000 stores worldwide, compared to about 12,000 currently for Starbucks.

Major concerns could include anything from a drop in quality to the brand losing its luster.

Krispy Kreme Doughnuts Inc., whose store openings once drew cars full of doughnut-hungry masses, learned that lesson the hard way and has since had to sharply scale back its growth plans. The doughnut maker also has suffered through an accounting fiasco and concerns over the healthfulness of its fatty treats.

For now at least, Owens said Starbucks doesn't appear to have similar worries.

"We haven't seen any evidence of it, but that's certainly a risk," Owens said. "How can they continue to maintain such a strong connection with the customer as they become just basically a global giant?"

But executives say one main complaint they hear from customers is that Starbucks isn't convenient enough. Starbucks customers don't want to go too far out of their way to get their morning latte or afternoon pick-me-up. And once they have stepped into their vehicles, they don't want to bother to undo their seat belts for a caffeinated treat, either _ hence the explosive growth of Starbucks drive-throughs.

Besides adding stores, drive-throughs and kiosks throughout the world, Starbucks also has plans to make itself ubiquitous even in places where it can't squeeze in a store. It is getting ready to launch Starbucks-branded vending machines, which will let people buy warm lattes and other drinks in a nine-ounce can for $2.50. And that's in addition to the business it already does selling bottled cold Starbucks drinks and coffee beans in more traditional food stores.

Sitting in Starbucks' Seattle headquarters a day after the company announced that it had increased its projected store count by a third, to 40,000 stores, company Chairman Howard Schultz said he thought the company had been vastly underestimating the worldwide demand for its coffees, teas, CDs, coffee mugs and other items.

"This is still the opening act for Starbucks," he said.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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Id go to starbucks if the coffee was good, honest. I have no other issue with them other than that their product is pure garabage. Ill take folgers any day over them.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Starbuck coffee is OK. It does have a ****load of caffeine in it which I like. I just don't like any big international chain. If I travel somewhere I like to check out new regional type places. That is getting tougher anymore as you have to wade through the starbucks, crapplebees and such.
 

rockwool

Turbo Monkey
Apr 19, 2004
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Filastin
You guys seem to be as crazy about starbucks as Swedes are with mc donalds and 7eleven. On a street in south central Stockholm there are 4 7elevens on a strech of 1-1,5km...
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
19,180
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TN
You guys seem to be as crazy about starbucks as Swedes are with mc donalds and 7eleven. On a street in south central Stockholm there are 4 7elevens on a strech of 1-1,5km...
Oh, we already lost those wars. Haha! There is a McDonalds every two blocks here. :biggrin:
 

Slugman

Frankenbike
Apr 29, 2004
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On a street in south central Stockholm there are 4 7elevens on a strech of 1-1,5km...
Having been to Stockholm and living in LA... hearing it called 'south central' just cracked me up!

Go to Providence RI and look for a Dunkin Donuts - you can walk out of one and see the next one!
 

Five

Turbo Monkey
Mar 8, 2003
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When I'm home in Seattle - I hardly go to a Starbucks....but when I'm travelling for work wether it's somewhere in the states or abroad - the first place I look for coffee, is Starbucks.
 

rockwool

Turbo Monkey
Apr 19, 2004
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Filastin
Having been to Stockholm and living in LA... hearing it called 'south central' just cracked me up!

Go to Providence RI and look for a Dunkin Donuts - you can walk out of one and see the next one!
:biggrin: Not quite the same thing! This is our Crenshaw...

http://www.hitta.se/SearchCombi.aspx?__VIEWSTATE=%2FwEPDwUJNzY0MzE1MTE1ZGQ%3D&UCSB%3AWflWhite=1a1b&UCSB%3AWflPink=4a&SearchType=4&UCSB%3ABBX1=&UCSB%3ABBY1=&UCSB%3ABBX2=&UCSB%3ABBY2=&UCSB%3ATextBoxWho=&UCSB%3ATextBoxWhere=g%F6tgatan+69+stockholm&UCSB%3AButtonSearch=%A0%A0hitta%21%A0%A0&CombiDetails%3AMapControl%3Acx=1629393&CombiDetails%3AMapControl%3Acy=6578497&CombiDetails%3AMapControl%3ApointsHidden=&CombiDetails%3AMapControl%3Az=3#contactlinks

Ice Cube would be proud of it. :) Amazingly, even though Scandinavia is called little America, I have yet to see a dunkin donuts or starbucks in Stockholm or Copenhagen.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Go to Providence RI and look for a Dunkin Donuts - you can walk out of one and see the next one!
I think Dunkin Donuts' coffee is superior to Starbucks.


But as far as big chains go, they good global citizens. They cut out the middle man of the coffee purchase -- which is bad for the distributors -- but they pay the poor coffee grower more, so that's cool.
 

MudGrrl

AAAAH! Monkeys stole my math!
Mar 4, 2004
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kinda funny

we have a thread about fat 'mericans and how much gas they use

and a thread bout Starbucks and how 'mericans just don't wanna cross the street to get to one.


we're pampered, fat, lazy bstrds.
 

Secret Squirrel

There is no Justice!
Dec 21, 2004
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Up sh*t creek, without a paddle
kinda funny

we have a thread about fat 'mericans and how much gas they use

and a thread bout Starbucks and how 'mericans just don't wanna cross the street to get to one.


we're pampered, fat, lazy bstrds.
People are also very loyal to their Starbucks....I've seen this before:

Say there's a Starbucks across the street from a person's office. They go there everyday for a couple months. Then one gets put in on the same side of the street down on the corner. Same person will still go to the one across the street....I've seen this about 100 times personally here in Seattle....I guess they feel like it would be cheating....lol.... I go to the one about 5 blocks away cause it lets me spend more time out of the office!!:banana:
 

rockwool

Turbo Monkey
Apr 19, 2004
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Filastin
kinda funny

we have a thread about fat 'mericans and how much gas they use

and a thread bout Starbucks and how 'mericans just don't wanna cross the street to get to one.


we're pampered, fat, lazy bstrds.
You're using one of them Patriot Act self censoring keyboards huh?



About big chains, them fishburgers at big burger are totally adictive. Danger to your health. I'm glad I went vego a few years back or I would bust rims more often than I could afford.
 

i-ride

Monkey
May 12, 2006
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Frederick
Stupid firewall.
New Starbucks Opens In Rest Room Of Existing Starbucks

June 27, 1998 | Issue 33•20


CAMBRIDGE, MA—Starbucks, the nation's largest coffee-shop chain, continued its rapid expansion Tuesday, opening its newest location in the men's room of an existing Starbucks.

"Coffee lovers just can't stand being far from their favorite Starbucks gourmet blends," said Chris Tuttle, Starbucks vice-president of franchising. "Now, people can enjoy a delicious Frappuccino or espresso just about any time they please, even while defecating."

The new men's-room-based Starbucks, the coffee giant's 1,531st U.S. location, will be open to both men and women when not "in use." In addition to offering specialty coffees from around the world, it will serve freshly baked pastries, Italian pannini sandwiches and soups, as well as the rest room's usual selection of toilet paper and soap.

"This is a great addition," said Jonathan Connolly, a Boston-area banker who tried out the new Starbucks Tuesday. "I was enjoying my usual triple mocha latté in the main Starbucks, and I had to go to the bathroom, where three people were in line to use the stalls. The wait might have been a problem, but, to my great pleasure, there was another Starbucks right there, ready to serve me more delicious coffee. And the baristas were helpful and courteous."

Connolly added that after he finished drinking his coffee and using the bathroom, he stayed for a poetry reading near the urinals.

"I was a little bit worried about the new restaurant cutting into our business," said Dave Grobelkowski, manager of the original Starbucks. "But the only people going there are ones who have already purchased items from us anyway. And if we run out of stirrers or cream, we can just go to the bathroom and borrow some."

According to Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz, the new location represents the beginning of a long-term expansion plan.

"Eventually, Starbucks rest rooms everywhere will sell coffee," Schultz said. "But that ambitious scheme is at least five years down the road. In the meantime, we plan to open an additional location in this Starbucks' ladies' room within months, and are already drafting plans for a fourth restaurant along the corridor leading from the main seating area to the rest rooms. At some point a 'Star-bucks Express' window will eventually open in the walk-in closet of the men's room Starbucks."

"Drink our coffee," Schultz said. "Drink it."
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Sleazattle
kinda funny

we have a thread about fat 'mericans and how much gas they use

and a thread bout Starbucks and how 'mericans just don't wanna cross the street to get to one.


we're pampered, fat, lazy bstrds.
I'm too lazy to walk into a starbucks so I just make my own damned coffee or go without. I'm the next generation of super lazy American.