LOO!!! Been a long time dude!
I fully agree that giving these bikes a 1.5in HT is a great way to go. It just gives you SO many more options and greater strength in a shorter head-tube.
State of the Union: trailbikes for real men.
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I fully agree that giving these bikes a 1.5in HT is a great way to go. It just gives you SO many more options and greater strength in a shorter head-tube.
ecnsmb: nice bike. out of curiosity, how much to you weigh? I have an Enduro also, and I'm curious about the RP23. I have a DHX Air on there now, and I like the sound of the RP23 because I've heard it would produce less mid-stroke wallow. I feel like I blow too much of my travel. Plus a bit of weight savings would be nice...Awesome rigs everybody..
Here's mine - 7.875x2.25" RP23 for ~5" of RWT. Singletrack machine.
but I'm worried I weigh too much at 210 w/o gear.slyfink - I too weigh in at about 210 without gearecnsmb: nice bike. out of curiosity, how much to you weigh? I have an Enduro also, and I'm curious about the RP23. I have a DHX Air on there now, and I like the sound of the RP23 because I've heard it would produce less mid-stroke wallow. I feel like I blow too much of my travel. Plus a bit of weight savings would be nice...
The RP23 has held up extremely well to my abuse, which is certainly not light. It doesn't have as much mid-stroke wallow as some DHX's I have ridden. Its been taking a pounding for about 3yrs now without complaint. It has developed a light squeak in the Propedal position, but none in any other setting. Its been a great shock. I have been considering getting it Push'd or Protuned by Fox, but that remains to be seen. I just bought some new XTR M970 kit for her so the Protune might have to wait. I'd say go for it if you're looking for something lighter and a bit more 'nimble'. Good luck!Cheers
It's been mentioned before but a Blur 4x with a longer fork absolutely rocks. Slack and low and weighs in around 30 lbs. The only 2 drawbacks at is that is sucks for techy climbing because the pedals smash into everything and that Santa Cruz (in their infinite wisdom) stopped making it.
If I had to buy a new trailbike today it would be a Banshee Spitfire.
If I had to buy a new trailbike today it would be a Banshee Spitfire.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm 5'11" with a short upper body so I buy mediums for the shorter top tube, but my freaking 36" inseam makes getting proper leg extension on a frame that allows me to drop my saddle down real far hard. Whatever bike I buy this year will have to have a telescoping post.
sweet... thanks for the response. time to watch ebay and the classifieds!slyfink - I too weigh in at about 210 without gear
Cheers
wait, if your curious about the orange alpine, check out these reviews http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/2010/alpine-160/ every one is crazy about it, and one of has comparsion to some of the other bikes mentioned here
ecsnsmb, one more thing: why did you go with such a short shock? How does that impact shock performance and bike geometry?slyfink - I too weigh in at about 210 without gear
Cheers
I notice that my Enduro (2005 Expert) calls for a 8.75" i2i. I also see that Fox doesn't sell RP23s in that length, the longest they go is 8.5" i2i. I'm thinking that 1/4 of an inch isn't going to make all that much difference...
and what about valving? did you get an off-the-shelf tune, or was there a special tune you could choose from? or possibly you had it Pushed?
slyfink - it is a shorter shock because it is an '05 SX. Its not the SX Trail or Enduro. Its the 4X version and hence has a smaller amount of travel and a shorter shock.
As for your shock, putting a shorter i2i shock on a frame, especially a linkage driven frame, will change the suspension characteristics a bit. It will also drop your BB a bit, slacken your HA and give you a bit less travel. You will want to make sure that it wont cause any binding/frame on frame action when its fully compressed. Again, I am no expert on this. I do think, in short, that the shock you are referring to will work, but it will definitely affect certain handling/suspension aspects.
You can get it tuned for you, either by Fox or Push setting it up yourself is pretty easy. Refer to some threads here and manuals and whatnot and you can get it pretty dialed in.
Hope this helps, good luck!
slyfink- I have an 07 enduro like yours, and I short-shocked it on purpose (8.5x2.5) and it works fine. HOWEVER I remember there being a clearance issue on the linkage on the first models (05) if you ran a shock like this. So it would be good to try out a friends to make sure there is clearance before you buy.
The nice thing about this mod with the enduro is that you still get the stock "low" position by using the "high/steep" shock shuttle, but you have one more slacker postion than stock.
After all of this I have found that I like the stock slack setting better after trying both. The bike just felt wierd slacker than stock.
Your bike would definately take an 8.5x2.5 shock with the high/steep shuttle, but you may have clearance issues with the low/slack shuttle.
I hope this makes sense, PM me if not.
The nice thing about this mod with the enduro is that you still get the stock "low" position by using the "high/steep" shock shuttle, but you have one more slacker postion than stock.
After all of this I have found that I like the stock slack setting better after trying both. The bike just felt wierd slacker than stock.
Your bike would definately take an 8.5x2.5 shock with the high/steep shuttle, but you may have clearance issues with the low/slack shuttle.
I hope this makes sense, PM me if not.
I think it makes perfect sense, thanks. I ride the high/steep shuttle (I may even have lost the slack shuttle in one of my last 4 moves...
)I like your idea of trying a buddy's shock. I'll ask around and see if anyone has one.
I also spoke to Specialized warranty here in Canada who told me it wouldn't void the lifetime warranty on the frame. I think all I have to do now is find a good deal on one.
this thread is what makes RM dope.
Yes, agreed.
congrats...
only issue is if you get another frame it needs to have a 150mm rear end and 83mm BB for you to swap parts over.
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I have a 2007 Enduro and am running the slack shuttle with a 8.5" x 2.5" RP23. It is by far the best upgrade I've made to the bike so far. I've bottomed out several times on bigger hits and haven't any frame contact.
I am thinking of finding a cheap Enduro SL frame to save some weight and hopefully better pedaling performance. The bike squats a lot while pedaling. When the hill starts pointing down the bike is mint!
I am thinking of finding a cheap Enduro SL frame to save some weight and hopefully better pedaling performance. The bike squats a lot while pedaling. When the hill starts pointing down the bike is mint!
seeing how you already pulled the trigger, I am a little late. BUT... I've been riding a transition covert for the last two seasons. 5.5" travel with a 36 talas up front. weighs in around 33 lbs. I've ridden the piss out of it on everything from freeride trails to xc singletrack. 6'3" and 200 lbs. The bike takes care of business.
Good call on asking about warranty, I completely forgot!I think it makes perfect sense, thanks. I ride the high/steep shuttle (I may even have lost the slack shuttle in one of my last 4 moves...
I like your idea of trying a buddy's shock. I'll ask around and see if anyone has one.
I also spoke to Specialized warranty here in Canada who told me it wouldn't void the lifetime warranty on the frame. I think all I have to do now is find a good deal on one.
I found a few good deals on rockshox monarch 8.5x2.5 shocks. That's what I bought and it works great. Depends on the feel you want though. The flood gate works much better than the pro-pedal, and I don't feel like the shock wallows in the travel as bad as the stock dhx air. My only complaint is that it's a bit "sticky" feeling, but nowhere near as bad as a swinger.
I think if you ride it aggresively, it's a good shock.
good point! the IronHorse 6Point doesn't have a full length seat tube, it's interrupted by main axle of the the upper links
Really? I would be cheezed off if that turned out to be the case. I took a good long look at this picture and it looked like the seat tube went through...
Maybe the newer ones are better. but if I remember correctly, mine had welds in that area that prevented the seatpost to go beyond that point.
the Foes FXR is my next bike
If I were you - I would take that $$ an invest in anger management classes instead.
anyway - you don't even ride and that bike doesn't look like it could handle the gnarniness of the etraweb
anger management classes suck!
i wouldnt be paying retail for that thing. never did.
god forbid i mention Curnutt on teh internets
wrong, I have full range of insertion on my 6point.
I didn't need to ream the seat tube at all. if yours, for reason, doesn't allow full insertion then it shouldnt be stripping
Sorry, but its late, I'm at work and have had two glasses of Pinot Noir.
God Im sad.
Love this thread.
I couldnt help but laugh and ask what if a non MTB'r read this.
See above.
God Im sad.
Love this thread.
Hi Luc,
I am agree with you, I think this frame is over pricing and I have not idea why the design can adapt 68 mm BB space with 150 mm rear hubs?
retail is expensive, but i did say i wouldnt be paying retail.
i had zero issues with my RS7 w/ its 68mm BB and 150mm rear end
Enduro sells bearing kits for the IH bikes (Max-E bearings), but I'm not sure about where you can get the pins and bolts and stuff. If you find a place, let us know. I'd like some for my 7point and MKIII.
Hey, how much did you pay for that mbuzi? I was totally prepared to drop around 3500 for one, then I found this crazy deal on a 6-point that was too good to pass up.Mbuzi is porn!!!
I picked up an 09 a few weeks ago and cant get enuff of it!!
