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States' Rights? Like activist judge, it's a code word, nothing more.

DRB

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Oct 24, 2002
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Lying? How can an interpretation of complex law be considered lying? In essence this case is about the meaning of "legitmate medical purpose." Is providing a prescription for self administered suicide a "legitimate medical purpose."?

What' funny is the divergence of both sides from their previous decision in Raich.
 

Silver

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Jul 20, 2002
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DRB said:
Lying? How can an interpretation of complex law be considered lying? In essence this case is about the meaning of "legitmate medical purpose." Is providing a prescription for self administered suicide a "legitimate medical purpose."?

What' funny is the divergence of both sides from their previous decision in Raich.
Here is how: We've got three guys who get up and bang the drum for States' Rights whenever they agree with a case. As soon as they don't, it is "**** states' rights, the Federal goverment has the authority!"

Now, you're right, it probably isn't lying. Because if you read between the lines, you know that States' Rights coming out of a conservative mouth really means no women, no fags, no niggers, and no cripples need apply.

Of course, I'd also argue that three upstanding Catholic men should follow the spirit of the law when it comes to the ninth commandment, instead of the letter.
 

Echo

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DRB said:
Lying? How can an interpretation of complex law be considered lying?
I think the lying here occurred when Roberts said he would be impartial, whereas now it's obvious he will always do what his butt-buddy Bush tells him to do. Roberts is how Bush will continue to f*ck with all of us after his sorry ass administration's time is over.
 

DRB

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Echo said:
I think the lying here occurred when Roberts said he would be impartial, whereas now it's obvious he will always do what his butt-buddy Bush tells him to do. Roberts is how Bush will continue to f*ck with all of us after his sorry ass administration's time is over.
So just because he doesn't agree with you that means he isn't impartial?

That is a load of crap.
 

ohio

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Nov 26, 2001
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Silver said:
Of course, I'd also argue that three upstanding Catholic men should follow the spirit of the law when it comes to the ninth commandment, instead of the letter.
I forget, is the ninth commandment "thou shalt not be a gigantic douche?"
 

ohio

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Echo said:
he would be impartial, whereas now it's obvious he will always do what his butt-buddy Bush tells him to do.
Being impartial doesn't mean not having opinions... apparently, he made it pretty clear in his confirmation what he thought of federal rights in this case during his hearings. Bush nominated him because their views align, not because he could be manipulated, which in my opinion is much worse since it means Bush's legacy will last far beyond his presidency.
 

Echo

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DRB said:
So just because he doesn't agree with you that means he isn't impartial?

That is a load of crap.
I didn't make any statement regarding my opinion on the matter, so how would you know if he agrees with me or not?

My opinion is that he is not impartial and never will be.
 

Echo

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DRB said:
Then no one on the court is impartial.
I suppose if you feel that Roberts was a good choice then there is no convincing you otherwise. I don't think he was a good choice and you aren't going to convince me otherwise.

The supreme court justices all have their biases, and as a whole I think our system of government is flawed so the supreme court is flawed too. But putting that right wing extremist in there just made it more flawed than it already was.
 

DRB

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Echo said:
I suppose if you feel that Roberts was a good choice then there is no convincing you otherwise. I don't think he was a good choice and you aren't going to convince me otherwise.

The supreme court justices all have their biases, and as a whole I think our system of government is flawed so the supreme court is flawed too. But putting that right wing extremist in there just made it more flawed than it already was.
And when Ginsburg was appointed the conservatives said the EXACT samething. How am I to take any of you seriously?

I feel that he is no different than Thomas, Scalia, Kennedy or Ginsburg. Shoot he is a near carbon copy of Rehnquist.
 

Reactor

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When the citizens in a state pass a law saying that a doctor is allowed to help a terminally ill patient end their life by prescribing drugs, it becomes a legitimate medical use.

The current administration is trying to play both sides of the board, "states rights" when it allows mining companies to expliot natural areas, or they can't get a law passed, or want to be re-elected. Not "states rights" when the states disagree with a value judgement by the administration, like bulldozing peoples houses, allowing medical MJ, or right to die.