It's not the phone in the hands that causes the most trouble - it's the fact that a driver on the phone is paying precious little attention to driving.BeerDemon said:I'd like to see a study that correlates the increased traffic deaths of cyclists with the increased use of cell phones by drivers. It's crazy that hands free devices aren't required by law in cars.
Yup. I wish cell phones would be banned all together. Not just in cars.SkaredShtles said:It's not the phone in the hands that causes the most trouble - it's the fact that a driver on the phone is paying precious little attention to driving.
So what you are saying is..... "Cell phones don't kill people, people kill people"?SkaredShtles said:It's not the phone in the hands that causes the most trouble - it's the fact that a driver on the phone is paying precious little attention to driving.
They are in some states like NY and CT. Not that it's enforced or anything judging by the number of people that don't use them.BeerDemon said:It's crazy that hands free devices aren't required by law in cars.
Sure. Of course I was a little bit jerky on the gas pedal, but hey, all was good.stevew said:So guys, can you get road head and still operate your vehicle?
So did you all go back to Rob's place...????bluebug32 said:Rob and I were out for a nice dinner one evening on the second floor of a restaurant that overlooked a stop light. A chick pulls up, reaches in her bag, dispenses some sort of lotion and procedes to stick her hand down the front of her pants....
Check please!
Precisely my point. And I think it's not just studies in Oregon. I'm pretty sure a lot of independent studies have reached a very similar conclusion.jimmydean said:Phones while driving, hands free or otherwise, are bad. There have been a lot of studies in Oregon that show it's not the phone, but the conversation on the phone that cause problems.
As long as you're doing it in situations where you don't need to make any split-second driving situations, you'll probably be fine.BurlyShirley said:Well, I drive and talk on the phone all the time, and dont see stopping with that any time soon. Sucks some people cant drive with or w/out them. Be careful.
It was our anniversary actually, so she was just part of his present. I guess she just started warming up a little earlyN8 said:So did you all go back to Rob's place...????
sweet! i actually had to do 80/85 to catch up and pass on the right. I did however put the camera down, ease off of the gas pedal and return to safe driving mode. the madness had to be documented.Jeremy R said:The only thing sketchier than that pic, is the dude driving beside her taking a picture while driving the same speed as her, in a construction zone.:devil:
I mean really, I can see how its a distraction, but not any more than eating something or talking to the person next to you in the car. If its the conversation after all.SkaredShtles said:As long as you're doing it in situations where you don't need to make any split-second driving situations, you'll probably be fine.
How are you supposed to know exactly when you're going to have to make a split-second decision?SkaredShtles said:As long as you're doing it in situations where you don't need to make any split-second driving situations, you'll probably be fine.
Sorry but if you cant drive and talk on a phone, you probably cant walk and chew gum either. It's really NOT that difficult.bluebug32 said:How are you supposed to know exactly when you're going to have to make a split-second decision?
[Whoops, hang on there, Mr. Tractor trailer who's cutting in front of me at 75 mph...I gotta put my phone down first!
Oh, Sh!t! You took that picture? Ha! So there were like a gazillion driving hazards going on at once then....Did you look over your left shoulder to see if someone was taking a picture of you going 85mph, eyes off the road, taking a picture of someone chatting on her phone?The Toninator said:sweet! i actually had to do 80/85 to catch up and pass on the right. I did however put the camera down, ease off of the gas pedal and return to safe driving mode. the madness had to be documented.
Yea i took it and as far as i know no body was taking a photo of me (blind spots maybe yea maybe no ). There was a couple in a beamer off to my left. the chic in the passenger seat gave me the thumbs as if in agreement of my photo taking.bluebug32 said:Oh, Sh!t! You took that picture? Ha! So there were like a gazillion driving hazards going on at once then....Did you look over your left shoulder to see if someone was taking a picture of you going 85mph, eyes off the road, taking a picture of someone chatting on her phone?
That's like saying "I can't see why people can't drive after a 6 beer lunch. It's not that hard, you just use the curb as a guide..."BurlyShirley said:I mean really, I can see how its a distraction, but not any more than eating something or talking to the person next to you in the car. If its the conversation after all.
Bastards! All of 'em!!Jeremy R said:The only thing sketchier than that pic, is the dude driving beside her taking a picture while driving the same speed as her, in a construction zone.:devil:
jimmydean said:That's like saying "I can't see why people can't drive after a 6 beer lunch. It's not that hard, you just use the curb as a guide..."
My guess is you drive just as bad as everyone else that drives while talking on the phone. You just haven't killed anyone yet.
BurlyShirley said:Please explain to me how talking on a hands free device is any different than talking to someone sitting next to you.
That's fine and dandy, but does that mean you're against car radios? How about food, drinks, etc?OGRipper said:I'm telling you, it's the gadget fiddling.
Bingo.bluebug32 said:How are you supposed to know exactly when you're going to have to make a split-second decision?
[Whoops, hang on there, Mr. Tractor trailer who's cutting in front of me at 75 mph...I gotta put my phone down first!
Listening to radios is a passive activity. It's easy to tune it out. Having a conversation in the car is very similar to talking on the phone - both are interactive. I'd bet that they're very similar when you compare the level of distraction to the driver.BurlyShirley said:That's fine and dandy, but does that mean you're against car radios? How about food, drinks, etc?
I'll bet most of those speeding accidents involve distracted people.BurlyShirley said:I just think it's really funny, the battles you people pick to fight sometimes (my Bikemag thread notwithstanding).
I mean, speeding causes more accidents and deaths every year, why dont we have threads about how speeding is bad? Where are all the threads about people who "Should be wearing seatbelts"?
It's either SUV's or Cellphones everyday with you people because you're so trendy it's disgusting.
So now it's just driving distractions?SkaredShtles said:I'll bet most of those speeding accidents involve distracted people.