Is there a spot for super-D on this page? I got lots of questions. 
Super-D
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no.... what are your questions? actually there was one a while back... i'll find it
Check this thread: http://67.19.50.55/forums/showthread.php?t=85804&highlight=super-d
which in turn will link you to this one:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84935&highlight=Super
Search and ye shall find...
MD
which in turn will link you to this one:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84935&highlight=Super
Search and ye shall find...
MD
i think im gonna race super d this summer at big bear. now my big 9" travel bb7 or my dj urban ht?
Both. Combine them into a big 9" travel dj/urban hardtail of DHOOM and you'll be on a sure fire winner.lovebunny said:
Neither of those bikes is optimal for Big Bear (a well-ridden XC race bike or maybe a 4-5" trailbike would be better), but the HT will be much, much better than the BB7.
That is, if they have a race at all next year...which looks doubtful, and if they do, it'll be 100% fireroad, I bet, or maybe just Fall Line (which wouldn't be so bad.).
That is, if they have a race at all next year...which looks doubtful, and if they do, it'll be 100% fireroad, I bet, or maybe just Fall Line (which wouldn't be so bad.).
MikeD said:
A 5" bike is perfect i think for the BB Super_D courses, the fall line course is fun, but short, I like the one that hits 2n10 first then to Xpress, back to 2n10, then to furn, to the finish, it's got a bit of everything, fast fire road, fast single track , some tech trails, just pure fun all the way.
I think it's great, it lets the DH guys race the XC guys, and if the course is built right it all works out in the end. Although my experience is that they are usually slightly tilted one way or the other.
Personally, I'd go for a hardtail...comfort doesn't matter, but accelleration and climbing do, and neither the descents nor the climbs are anything you'd really want suspension for. You could ride most of the Super D courses on a cyclocross bike and still make a decent showing.Zutroy said:
MD
Will they even have one this year? I rode the Snowshoe SD course and would say that any sort of non-XC race bike would do well. It was a perfect balance between climbs and decents. There was no single track, but some very rough (FUN!!!) fire roads. A 38T ring on a DH bike was perfect. I did not ride the Mt SNow SD course, but my gf won it on an SGS Pro with a 38T ring (She also won Snowshoe). SHe is an expert xc racer as well as downhiller. She was actually able to outclimb the field on it.
Bottom line I guess is that on a well-designed course like Snowshoe's, a DH hardtail and FS bikes w/ ~4" at each end or more all end up being equally well suited. It all comes down to rider preference.
Bottom line I guess is that on a well-designed course like Snowshoe's, a DH hardtail and FS bikes w/ ~4" at each end or more all end up being equally well suited. It all comes down to rider preference.
Which time did you race? When I went there, I was "shown" the Super-D course (this was prior to Mayhem). A few portions on the bottom were single track and it overlapped with the Sport DH course. I really want to try a Super-D race this season and I was thinking SS. I'd be disappointed if it didn't have any single track.Repack said:
Although the top section of fire road was rough and fun. There was even a small step-up kinda jump at one section. Then I really liked the rock at the bottom.
i raced super d on my hard tail at silver mt..... and personally it was terrible.... the dh parts i went slow because it was rough... and the xc parts i went slow... because i have a full bred dj bike. the one time i did go fast on this fire road... i hit a rock wierd and did like 3 somersalts at like 30 mph.
I thought that SD wasn't 'posta have "climbs".
Could you guys define exactly wht the climbs were like?
Could you guys define exactly wht the climbs were like?
very short... but hard on a dh bike
The whole point of Super D is the climbs...it's DH with climbing sections. Again, though, it's entirely course-specific. 100% course-specific. The big bear Super D had, the 2 times I rode it, 1/2 mile to 3/4 mile climb sections...moderate fireroad, but absolutely not DH-bike friendly (which I would consider to be short, steeper climbs that you could just stand and power up using strength and momentum). Mostly moderately sloped fireroad heading down, which didn't favor a DH bike, either...either a trailbike or an XC bike was fine. The course ended with maybe 400m of the DH run, which wasn't technical, but kinda rutted up.
The other local Super D course was all singletrack, and the included the DH course...however, the DH course was 6-7 minutes long, with many, many short uphill sections and entirely made of close-in singletrack. The Super D course was extended at the top to include about 800m more of flat singletrack.
It's totally up to the course designer's interpretation. I think the idea is downieville-style old school DH, not "freeride." Mostly, though, I think the idea is to have a non-intimidating gravity race for people without Dh bikes, experience, or protective gear.
MD
The other local Super D course was all singletrack, and the included the DH course...however, the DH course was 6-7 minutes long, with many, many short uphill sections and entirely made of close-in singletrack. The Super D course was extended at the top to include about 800m more of flat singletrack.
It's totally up to the course designer's interpretation. I think the idea is downieville-style old school DH, not "freeride." Mostly, though, I think the idea is to have a non-intimidating gravity race for people without Dh bikes, experience, or protective gear.
MD
I guess I'm kind of imagining some of our southeast 'short courses'.
DH's that are best run on a short travel bike. 6" or less. Not necessarily all downhill, but no real climbs. except for Fontana NC. That place has a climb that kills everyone.
Maybe more like the old Clemson course, the 150yd slightly uphill 'sprint' section.
Or the Charlotte course. I think it only drops about 200' total. That may be very generous.
BTW---Peete, if you are chiming in on this, I would still like to see the footage of me hugging the tree there...
DH's that are best run on a short travel bike. 6" or less. Not necessarily all downhill, but no real climbs. except for Fontana NC. That place has a climb that kills everyone.
Maybe more like the old Clemson course, the 150yd slightly uphill 'sprint' section.
Or the Charlotte course. I think it only drops about 200' total. That may be very generous.
BTW---Peete, if you are chiming in on this, I would still like to see the footage of me hugging the tree there...
Is big bear going to still have super -d?
Ok My question is this. The bike I have in my pic, is a hard tail I have deemax rims..not on it yet, with 2.1 nobies on them. dirt jumper front shock. will this bike do for super-d in west verginia? I think its in wv any how, what ever the northern east coast state is this year. I also have a yeti 5.75 with cross max on it, and a cc fork, but i can put both forks on both bikes. what would be the better bike to race, they are both very lite. the hard tail is a 2003 rocky mountain flow slolum fram, but i ride it with the set high, because i like it like that.. any ways i have never raced any type of down hill before, but I used to ride in the cascades from 88-94 on a hard front and back canandale with ovel shaped sprokets, and i did fine on it till i hit big chunks of lava, and flew over the handlebars..a lot I might add. let me know what you think, also let me know if there is any events for amitures or any class really closer to Florida.. thats where I am stuck now for a bit. I dont mind traveling up north but I dont have the cash to head out west..yet. Thanks any help will do.
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We have been thinking of adding a Super D race to one of our local XC races...the run we are thinking about is 1.5 miles of fast singletrack with a climb that kills you on a DH bike and 2 shorter grunters...there are also some flat sections...but most of it is down with some technical steep sections.
Sound like a decent Super D course to you guys?
Sound like a decent Super D course to you guys?
maybe longer got any pics of the hill? also what states is it going to be in?
Actually Fontana is alot like a SD course. Except alot shorter. That climb isn't so bad if you carry momentum into it. Fontana needs a rock garden and some jumps bad.jet said:
I'll make sure I burn a cd before the Icycle. Just re-remind me later.