[DirtyDog]

why don't people get pissed when their health insurance costs are skyrocketing, which is far more of an economic impact than paying a dime or quarter more per gallon of gas?

Have you noticed what all the people around you look like? Very few people in this country care about health issues.

 

[merrrrjig]

dont go to yosemite, its 3.77 for the cheap stuff!

 

[Toshi]

Have you noticed what all the people around you look like? Very few people in this country care about health issues.

they care about it in the sense that they want boatloads of mri, ct scans, expensive procedures, and the like. and they don't want to pay for it.

 

[boostindoubles]

our government has us by the balls with this one.

 

[narlus]

our government has us by the balls with this one.

 

[black noise]

our government has us by the balls with this one.

And we have nobody to blame but ourselves for letting cities explode with freeways. I guess it's time to realize that cars and oil aren't the answer to everything.

edit: They sure are profitable though! And since when has quality of life come before profit here?

 

[Jm_]

And we have nobody to blame but ourselves for letting cities explode with freeways. I guess it's time to realize that cars and oil aren't the answer to everything.

edit: They sure are profitable though! And since when has quality of life come before profit here?

Yep, we create the demand. We keep procreating, and more and more people keep comming into the country to live. What do people expect is going to happen as demand keeps going up? Everyone loves to blame the government when it's the people to your left and right that need to change, then the leaders elected will represent their beliefs, and then things might change. The government can't change us itself....

 

[narlus]

so are you suggesting some sort of mandatory sterilization program like China, so that people will stop procreating?

 

[black noise]

The US doesn't really have the population problem like China, India, or parts of Africa, so no because we still have a lot of room. I'd say we start designing our cities better to be denser and accomodate bikes, walking, and subway/light rail as primary forms of transportation. Portland, San Francisco, and New York are good examples of a well-designed city. Many European cities are well designed too (mostly because they were built before cars).

Oviously cars are a horrible mode of primary transportation when everyone owns one. If you look at the data, New York has a third of the congestion as Los Angeles. LA is a sprawl dependent on cars and is gridlocked for several hours a day, whereas New York is dense and you can get around by walking, biking, or train. It's not hard to see which is a better model for a city.

 

[imageWIS]

so are you suggesting some sort of mandatory sterilization program like China, so that people will stop procreating?

Yes. Starting with the Hilton family…

Jon.