well then, if that's the application, then all we have to do is find what's convenient to support our pet causes, and where inconvenient, dismiss the document out of "consideration of the time it was written in". (cf 2 timothy 4:3-4)
we've had the technology in place for years...it's called "spent casings". find empty shell casings and you have found the origin of gunfire
Revolvers?we've had the technology in place for years...it's called "spent casings". find empty shell casings and you have found the origin of gunfire
you don't watch much BET, do you?
Like I mentioned before, local gun laws do not work as it is so easy to just purchase a gun somewhere where the laws are lax. I like NY state's gun laws. You need a permit to own a handgun, every legal handgun is linked to a permit. Permits aren't easy to get but any law abiding citizen can get one.
damn...good point.
Nit picker!!!
yeah, but they're mostly bourgeois. if they didn't get shot here they make the 2nd cut for iraq & afghanistan. and if they make it through *that*, they come back here & shoot people, sometimes themselves.
*finally*, a voice of reason
when i went to the nat'l archives, i didn't see an asterisk anywhere on the document. maybe nicholas cage didn't put the original one back?
Wait a sec. So you think gun violence isn't bad because if they didn't get shot in the hood they were going to die on the battle field anyway? And people accuse me of having no faith in humanity.
How dare you bring the consideration of context into the discussion.....
So, still want to stick with your assertion that it is a document intended to be interpreted strictly in the context at the time of writing?
Well, in that case, we're safe from Palin or Clinton (vagina version) running on the 2012 ticket..
No, I'm simply saying that the Constitution has to be interpreted based on current realities. And I think the framers knew this too. They spoke in their corespondences about the effect on perpetuality, future of mankind, etc. They knew that if this were to be a timeless document, that future generations of the 3 branches would have to use it as a tool to guide and develop the nation.
So, we agree that it is a document subject to change, evolution and interpretation. We were talking past each other..
eff that bastard..i'm looking forward to the ultimate irony in headlines when he takes one to the face from an "illegal" gun that sneaks through his smokescreen of "safety" during a home invasion.
15 year old teen..cops kid, no less, obviously trained in firearm use/safety. i love stories like this because it solidifies my belief in teaching my kids about guns/safety/self-defense.
The price of freedom.
on a good note:
can i get a hell yeah!!!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7087082.html
Harris County deputy's son shoots one of two intruders
15 year old teen..cops kid, no less, obviously trained in firearm use/safety. i love stories like this because it solidifies my belief in teaching my kids about guns/safety/self-defense.
Exxacly
yeah..accidents suck..that's why they're called "accidents":
And spoons! Look at what they did to Rosie!!
Way to totally miss the point. Since I'm too lazy to get out the crayolas and sketch it out for you, I'll just bluntly say it:
Taking an anecdotal story about guns and the negative outcome you like and dismissing good outcomes as meaningless is full retard.
Which I wasn't doing. I was critiquing manimal's debating tactics. Thanks for showing up.
If wolves represent gays, are the sheepdogs supposed to represent trannys? And what's with f*cking all the sheep? What is this, New Zealand?
Sorry, I didnt realize you were still too busy claiming that the intent of the 2nd amendment now doesnt realistically apply to defending against the government. Unfortunately, history itself provides us with two hard facts regarding this:
Well said.
