[johnbryanpeters]

I own a bunch of land which spans a rural road. Some local lowlife has taken to discarding their household trash along the roadside; that I can almost deal with picking up and discarding. The one gallon containers filled with used motor oil, often without a lid, really piss me off. I'm pretty sure it's one person who lives within a few miles.

I'd like to get a surveillance camera that would be good enough to get photos with sufficient resolution to get a plate number and photos of the perpetrator and their vehicle. It would have to be battery powered, inconspicuous enough to be mounted up in a tree. It'd be nice to be able to pull images off using wireless and a laptop, but...

Anybody got actual practical experience with this kind of spookery? Suggested device(s)?

 

[jdcamb]

Cheap Netbook, cheapo dollar store web camera, yawcam in motion mode... possibly a usb extender also. Works like a champ.

 

[Westy]

Hire JDcamb to lurk in the woods and catch him. I don't think he has much going on and has the street smarts to discard of the body properly, and not on your property.


In all truthiness this would piss me off to no end and I hope you catch them. You may try one of those critter cams. They are relatively inexpensive and produce decent photos, at least in good light. You just have to set it up so it doesn't trigger on the passing of every car.

 

[stevew]

what west said...critter camera

 

[jdcamb]

Wouldn't it be much more rewarding and educational to do the work yourself. Lately working with Law Enforcement has been working out better for me. Try calling the cops??

 

[Mr Jones]

here you go... just disconnect the light


Outdoor Motion Sensor Light Security Camera & Micro SD card | eBay

 

[jdcamb]

Discount Netbooks | Netbook Accessories |Netbook


USB 6 LED PC Webcam Camera Plus + Night Vision

Very useful tools....

 

[jonKranked]

what west said...critter camera

agreeX3

 

[C.P.]

Yup, a critter cam is good. Just hide it well, and turn the flash off so it doesn't get seen (and taken). I've used a critter camera like this one with great success. It was used for a similar situation, except illegal trails were being cut on private property. Got clear photos of perps, camera was never seen and trails were closed, the rest is history.
Cool part is, now I have a cool camera to spy on wildlife locally. Been trying to spot a Fisher that's been spotted by a number of nearby homeowners...no luck yet, but seen lots of deer and a fox...

 

[eaterofdog]

Just reading the OP makes my blood boil. We have a few of those ****ing stupid rednecks around my area. They better hope I don't catch them. There ain't gonna be no deputy sheriff or any of that, just the tee ball bat from the back of my car.

 

[rockofullr]

Just reading the OP makes my blood boil. We have a few of those ****ing stupid rednecks around my area. They better hope I don't catch them. There ain't gonna be no deputy sheriff or any of that, just the tee ball bat from the back of my car.

If that gets ya I'll do you one better. A few months back a sheriff rolls up and bangs on my door. When I answer he proceeds to tell me that a bunch of trash with my name and address was found on the side of a road out in the boonies.

Turns out some jackass has been stealing peoples trash in my part of town and doing who knows what with it then dumping what he doesn't want out in the hills.

WTF people?

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Thanks for all the suggestions!

Wouldn't it be much more rewarding and educational to do the work yourself. Lately working with Law Enforcement has been working out better for me. Try calling the cops??

We have coverage from Vermont State Police, who are spread pretty thin and handle major crime first and traffic enforcement second, with little left to spare, so meaningful assistance from them is unlikely absence evidence at hand.

The Addison County Sheriff's department handles issues more in line with this, but I doubt that they can afford to do the stakeout/surveillance necessary to handle this. If I can give them pictures or video, it'll give them a very good start.

 

[Mr Jones]

how bout doing something like this... but with pepper spray

 

[jdcamb]

Thanks for all the suggestions!


We have coverage from Vermont State Police, who are spread pretty thin and handle major crime first and traffic enforcement second, with little left to spare, so meaningful assistance from them is unlikely absence evidence at hand.

The Addison County Sheriff's department handles issues more in line with this, but I doubt that they can afford to do the stakeout/surveillance necessary to handle this. If I can give them pictures or video, it'll give them a very good start.

Yeah that sounds to be the way to handle it. Beating folks up as rewarding as it is, can get you sued or arrested. I work to hard for my things to lose it to some idiot with a lawyer. Hell just going to the courthouse to respond to the charge or suit is $500 and more favors then I care to give in return for said trip. My days of beating people up are sadly over. I had a good run....

 

[johnbryanpeters]

We now have three proposals on the floor:

• A game camera
• A cheap laptop and webcam
• A purpose-built surveillance camera

The laptop and webcam option might be good in an urban environment, but I think it's impractical out in the weather on a gravel road half a mile away from any dwelling.

The game camera is cheapest, but it's big, fairly obvious and a theft target.

The ElectroFlip HomeSentry suggested by Mr Jones is smaller and less obvious, albeit more expensive and I'm leaning towards it.

Comments?

Oh yeah, if I get results from this I will keep the community informed.

how bout doing something like this... but with pepper spray

I think the M.O. is drive-by, about once a week, so pepper spray wouldn't work without implementing a tracking system and a grenade launcher.

Also, I suspect that the person spreads gifts around more than one location.

 

[eaterofdog]

If that gets ya I'll do you one better. A few months back a sheriff rolls up and bangs on my door. When I answer he proceeds to tell me that a bunch of trash with my name and address was found on the side of a road out in the boonies.

Turns out some jackass has been stealing peoples trash in my part of town and doing who knows what with it then dumping what he doesn't want out in the hills.

WTF people?

What the hell.

The dumbasses dump at the ends of the neighborhood here, but the free dump substation is 1/4 mile down the road. It's right around the corner and free to everyone in the county. You don't even have to have ID, just give them a street address.

I found a pile of about 30 car batteries way out in the woods. Again, the dump substation is free and takes everything. Or... you can get 25¢ a lb for them. I told my scrapper buddy and he went and picked them up and made some bux.

Freaking dumbasses.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

...Freaking dumbasses.

It's more than dumb, it's lazy, twisted... dare I say new school Republican?

 

[Pesqueeb]

I demand pics if this works.

 

[w00dy]

Did you sift it for identifying material?

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Did you sift it for identifying material?

Tends to be kind of nasty. Semi-empty jars and tins, rotting food, other glop, usually a plastic shopping bag full. I have opened a few, no hits yet.

 

[DamienC]

Here's your suspect...

We got up there, we found all the garbage in there, and we decided it'd be
a friendly gesture for us to take the garbage down to the city dump. So
we took the half a ton of garbage, put it in the back of a red VW
microbus, took shovels and rakes and implements of destruction and headed
on toward the city dump.

Well we got there and there was a big sign and a chain across across the
dump saying, "Closed on Thanksgiving." And we had never heard of a dump
closed on Thanksgiving before, and with tears in our eyes we drove off
into the sunset looking for another place to put the garbage.

We didn't find one. Until we came to a side road, and off the side of the
side road there was another fifteen foot cliff and at the bottom of the
cliff there was another pile of garbage. And we decided that one big pile
is better than two little piles, and rather than bring that one up we
decided to throw our's down.

 

[Mr Jones]

I found a pile of about 30 car batteries way out in the woods...

So what you're saying is that PSP is in your neighborhood now.....

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Yup, a critter cam is good. Just hide it well, and turn the flash off so it doesn't get seen (and taken).

Leave the flash on so it does get taken. Just hide a dye bomb inside.

 

[Polandspring88]

Get one of those remote guns you can control over the internet. Alongside a web camera you can prove he was illegally dumping the trash AND solve the problem at the same time. Win win amiright?

 

[C.P.]

What about a sign posted that says" THIS AREA UNDER SURVEILLANCE NO DUMPING" or something to that effect...

 

[woodsguy]

I didn't open any of the links. Did anyone suggest an ultraviolet security camera? You might even be able to get one with a battery and or solar panel and wifi.

 

[eaterofdog]

Where can I get and ultraviolent security cam? Sounds perfect.

 

[jackalope]

 

[C.P.]

Wildgame Innovations makes a critter cam with WIFI (they call "fieldnet"). Looks like it has infrared flash (cant be seen) and can be monitored up to 300' away.

 

[eaterofdog]

The very cruel Bouncing Betty. A mine that get up by your face before it goes off.

 

[golgiaparatus]

Someone left a bag of trash on my porch once. I went through it, against my better judgement. Generic orange cola, fruit loops, pizza crust and several pages printed off from an ebony foot porn web forum... yep... W-T-F.