[sstalder5]

I came across some survivalist videos on youtube just surfing the interwebs today and wow... Most of these people have no idea what they're doing. I could survive longer than most of these "preppers" without 95% of the random crap they have in their bug out bags. People were planning on carrying things like ridiculous amounts of water, hundreds of pounds of ammo, useless tactical weapons, you name it someone had it in their BOB. So I started making a list of what I would realistically carry in a SHTF situation.

My EDC:
-Wallet
-Folding Knife - CRKT Drifter
-iPhone

BOB:
-Shotgun (with reasonable amount of ammo) - Remington 11-48
-Fixed blade survival knife - Gerber Bear Grylls
-p-cord (200ft) 350lb tensile strength
-10'x10' tarp
-thin gauge stainless steel wire (50ft)
-Water filtration - MSR Micro filter w/spare cartridge
-Water bottle/bladder
-Clif bars x 10
-Sleeping bag - REI 20* bag
-Duct tape
-Minimal 1st aid kit

I feel like I'm missing something but I could survive almost indefinitely with a good water source, trapping small game and gathering edibles for sustenance.

What would you need?

 

[insanitylevel9]

bacon

 

[RUFUS]

A satellite phone and a friend with a helicopter.

 

[Westy]

A holocaust cloak.

 

[MMike]

3rd rock from the sun, season 2 on DVD

 

[DirtyMike]

Originally posted by Phatbikeguy:
[QB] This is my list aside from proper clothing for a particular trip. In other words these are the items that go no mater what for a camping trip, change it up for different situations from there

1, coffee
2, water
3, MRE's
4, TP
5, small first aid kit
6, sleeping supplies
7, water filter/purification tabs
8, fishing supplies/hunting supplies
9, firemaking supplies
10, camp axe
11, rope... always always have rope
12, matches
13, And a mostly forgotten Item.... Extra socks
14, forgot knives...... always have extra knives
15, folding shovel
16, The last thing I always have with me is a sidearm. I end up camping alot of places were people cannot hear you scream... so be prepared.


Tents are a given, bags are a given, cookware is a given, general mess kit is a given...... [/QB]

This is my general list of things I would be able to put into a hiking backback for a given minimalist trip.... It really doesnt take much. I dont need obscene amounts of ammunition, but a little extra is good. We were discussing this on another forum yesterday, this was one of my posts.

 

[MMike]

A 48" dia wheel of gouda.

 

[sstalder5]

This is my general list of things I would be able to put into a hiking backback for a given minimalist trip.... It really doesnt take much. I dont need obscene amounts of ammunition, but a little extra is good. We were discussing this on another forum yesterday, this was one of my posts.

My list was my absolute minimum survival kit. If I had time to pack I'd start with my standard backpacking setup (~18lbs) which includes everything on my list and then some (minus the gun of course) then add ammo and sling my shotgun over my shoulder and I'd be comfortable for a while in the woods. For a longer stay, having a .223 rifle could be useful.

 

[DirtyMike]

With my list, thats all in my bag already. It gets unpacked before a trip to check it before I get there, but it gets used, and put back so its already to go if I get a wild hair to dissapear for the weekend. speaking of which, its about that time to take a weekend as it is.

If Iw ere to go totally minimalist, I can remove the coffee, the water, the TP, the shovel, the firemaking supplies, the tent can go away, keeping the sleeping bag, cookware/general mess kit can go away, the fishing/hunting supplies stay, knives stay, the camp axe stays, rope stays.... Maybe throw a frog gig in the mix.

For my knives, I will always have three at least... up to six. My benchamade folder<barrage assist open> my survival knife, and a fillet knife.

 

[stevew]

holiday inn express....

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

No condoms ?
Fail

 

[MMike]

No condoms ?
Fail

don't we have to re-populate the Earth?

 

[DirtMcGirk]

What about twinkies?

 

[sstalder5]

With my list, tahts all in my bag already. It gets unpacked before a trip to check it before I get there, but it gets used, and put back so its already to go if I get a wild hair to dissapear for the weekend. speaking of which, its about that time to take a weekend as it is.

If Iw ere to go totally minimalist, I can remove the coffee, the water, the TP, the shovel, the firemaking supplies, the tent can go away, keeping the sleeping bag, cookware/general mess kit can go away, the fishing/hunting supplies stay, knives stay, the camp axe stays, rope stays.... Maybe throw a frog gig in the mix.

For my knives, I will always have three at least... up to six. My benchamade folder<barrage assist open> my survival knife, and a fillet knife.

My bag stays about 3/4 packed at all times so I can just throw a few things in and go at a moments notice. Which is how most of my backpacking trips start out anyways.

I carry my CRKT Drifter as long as I have pants on, then I have an CRKT A.G. Russel Sting boot knife on my pack strap, and my Gerber Bear Grylls survival knife clipped on the outside of my pack. And I usually carry a small ceramic knife sharpener which really comes in handy too. It almost made it onto my minimalist list until I remembered my survival knife has a whetstone on the sheath.

 

[DirtyMike]

What about twinkies?

Probably one of the last foods I would have in a survival situation...... Something better than pure sugar.


Now if we are planning on being able to deep fry them.... that changes everything

 

[DirtyMike]

Actually, if we are talking a true survival situation then your really limited to items you carry on a regular basis right? So I guess the better thing to have in knowledge of how to make and find your supplies in the feild. I always have my barrage on me, so I will have some type of knife. I am usually wearing boots with laces so i can use laces as small amounts of line<very usefull>, and I generall am able to find the things needed to "survive".

 

[sstalder5]

Actually, if we are talking a true survival situation then your really limited to items you carry on a regular basis right? So I guess the better thing to have in knowledge of how to make and find your supplies in the feild. I always have my barrage on me, so I will have some type of knife. I am usually wearing boots with laces so i can use laces as small amounts of line<very usefull>, and I generall am able to find the things needed to "survive".

True. My biology background gives me pretty extensive knowledge on whats edible, wildlife behavior, and other useful things. I can make several kinds of traps with natural materials and I can make shelter and fire. I think I'd be better off with just my knife than most of the survivalist idiots would be with their 500lb bags of crap.

 

[DirtyMike]

True. My biology background gives me pretty extensive knowledge on whats edible, wildlife behavior, and other useful things. I can make several kinds of traps with natural materials and I can make shelter and fire. I think I'd be better off with just my knife than most of the survivalist idiots would be with their 500lb bags of crap.

Agreed 100%

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

I think I'd be better off with just my knife than most of the survivalist idiots would be with their 500lb bags of crap.

 

[sstalder5]

Agreed 100%

They'll probably end up killing eachother off pretty quickly anyways, as paranoid as people like that are. And people like us can just sit back and enjoy our extended camping trip until order is restored.

 

[H8R]

What would you need?

Spyderco sheep's foot knife. Keeps cutting even when abused
LED flashlight
Gerber Machete/saw
Mossberg 930 SPX or similar
matches
dozen Cliff bars
beef jerky
miso soup mix
LED flashlight
Coated heavy polyester tarp (weather/UV resistant)
matches
gravity fed water filter bag
titanium spork
LED flashlight
alcohol stove
matches
mess kit
first aid kit
LED flashlight
high quality gaffer's tape (duct tape is retarded)
matches
30 degree synthetic sleeping bag (anything more is too bulky)
lighter
needle/heavy thread
para cord wrapped around just about everything
pens/notebook

 

[gonefirefightin]

when I was teaching wilderness survival it would end in a 4 day 4 night navigation course without any assistance from others. the students could only engage this exercise after completing the mandatory 80 hours of classroom and field instruction. they were only allowed one 4"x4"x8" otter box and the contents were up to them. They wore the customary clothing with the season (sub freezing winter conditions with hefty snow pack) and nothing in their pockets but a spot device. The spot device was their only form of communication and they were to "check in" every hour on the hour. if they did not check in they were found and extricated from the field, and if they felt the need to drop out of the final exercise they would hit the help button thus bringing in rescue staff to extricate the student. They would have to navigate over 40 miles on foot and provide their own shelter, heat, and sustenance.

out of roughly 400ish students I had only 8 people fail and they failed miserably probably due to lack of participation in the formal classroom.

you dont need a huge list of "things" to make it, you only need brains and a great attitude.

 

[H8R]

Oh and I'd head for Idaho. I have family there, and they are heavily armed.

 

[bean]

My EDC:

- Laptop
- Laptop charger
- USB stick
- Phone charger
- Headphones
- Notebook
- 2 Pens
- Sharpie
- Business cards
- Kindle or book

Optional:
- External HDD
- Sketchpad
- 2 Pencils
- Eraser
- Pencil sharpener

 

[MMike]

5 left shoes

 

[DirtyMike]

Spyderco sheep's foot knife. Keeps cutting even when abused
LED flashlight
Gerber Machete/saw
Mossberg 930 SPX or similar
matches
dozen Cliff bars
beef jerky
miso soup mix
LED flashlight
Coated heavy polyester tarp (weather/UV resistant)
matches
gravity fed water filter bag
titanium spork
LED flashlight
alcohol stove
matches
mess kit
first aid kit
LED flashlight
high quality gaffer's tape (duct tape is retarded)
matches
30 degree synthetic sleeping bag (anything more is too bulky)
lighter
needle/heavy thread
para cord wrapped around just about everything
pens/notebook

I think you forgot the LED flashlight and the matches.

 

[gonefirefightin]

havent seen a good list of items yet

 

[sstalder5]

Oh and I'd head for Idaho. I have family there, and they are heavily armed.

There's nothing better than the Appalachian Mountains for me. I know the flora and fauna and terrain there better than anywhere in the world.

And GFF that class sounds awesome. My navigation skills could definitely use some work..

 

[gonefirefightin]

There's nothing better than the Appalachian Mountains for me. I know the flora and fauna and terrain there better than anywhere in the world.

And GFF that sounds awesome. My navigation skills could definitely use some work..

the nav is more important than anything

 

[DirtMcGirk]

- Palm sized GPS
- Compass
- Folding knife
- Electrolite packets
- Roll of duct tape
- Two pairs of socks
- 1911, 6 spare mags.
- Zippo/matches
- MSR stove
- Six Hustler mags
- 20 zip ties of various lengths.

 

[sstalder5]

the nav is more important than anything

Very true. If it happened tomorrow, I'd just stick to rarely traveled areas I know well, probably somewhere along the Elk river.

But I definitely need to take some sort of nav class. I can read a map and work a compass but that's about it.

 

[syadasti]

GFF wins, nobody else has come close...

 

[gonefirefightin]

here is the deal,

if "survival" is the main goal it has to deal with getting yourself out of the situation you are in.

most people have been told to stay put. this is a good thing since they have no clue what to do. but if you have some simple navigation principals and a couple tools you can rescue yourself.

now if this thread is all about bugout principals than it is a different topic in itself.

 

[jdcamb]

All my tools.
A sherpa to push the tool cabinet.
All my camping gear.
Another sherpa to carry the bin.
My Favorite Pillow.
My Bike and stuff.
A bottle of Armorall.
3000 vintage matchbox cars and enough Hotwheels track to play with them all at the sametime.
Enough Porn to last a month
Babywipes.
Some afghani pot seeds.
A case of Pringles.
Mahlon Dickersons auto biography.
My Baby Seal club.
A Herkimer Diamond I found on a field trip in 4th grade.
A pet Bengal Tiger

 

[H8R]

if "survival" is the main goal it has to deal with getting yourself out of the situation you are in.

The list I posted was all about camping out somewhere for a few days, if required.

As far as GTFO strategies, my main concern is that I live only 1 hour north of San Francisco, and OAKLAND.


In the event of a major social meltdown, my first and foremost objective would be OBTAIN FUEL and GET MY FAMILY THE FVCK AWAY FROM OAKLAND.

 

[sstalder5]

here is the deal,

if "survival" is the main goal it has to deal with getting yourself out of the situation you are in.

most people have been told to stay put. this is a good thing since they have no clue what to do. but if you have some simple navigation principals and a couple tools you can rescue yourself.

now if this thread is all about bugout principals than it is a different topic in itself.

I was really geared towards the kind of doomsday catastrophe the crazies are so convinced is happening soon. The only possible reason I can think to use anything like this would be some sort of widespread civil unrest that would take down the infrastructure.

 

[jdcamb]

The list I posted was all about camping out somewhere for a few days, if required.

As far as GTFO strategies, my main concern is that I live only 1 hour north of San Francisco, and OAKLAND.


In the event of a major social meltdown, my first and foremost objective would be OBTAIN FUEL and GET MY FAMILY THE FVCK AWAY FROM OAKLAND.

I think my strengths would be better suited to Urban Survival.

 

[gonefirefightin]

if we are talking pure survival here are the most important items needed

compass
signal mirror
whistle
purification tablets

next to water, these are the only things you need to be rescued. heat, food and shelter are luxuries that can be put off for four days (the maximum average time frame of case study rescues)

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Thanks to big box stores all you need for suburban survival is this:

It opens most doors.

 

[H8R]

Thanks to big box stores all you need for suburban survival is this:

It opens most doors.

I have one of these in my tool bucket:

It opens most anything.