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SUV haters take up arms against their oppressors

The Toninator

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Jul 6, 2001
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S.U.V. Haters Pitch a Curbside Battle

ith people crowding the sidewalks and music from clubs and cars in the air, it was the kind of summer night in Greenwich Village when energy seems to emanate from the pavement. Joseph Edmonds, in a dark baseball cap and a white polo shirt, might have been looking for the right nightclub. Instead, he was studying the rows of parked cars.

Halfway down the block from a busy corner, he spotted one that towered above the others, its shiny gray paint reflecting light from the streetlamp overhead. "I'm going to get that Excursion down there,"
he told Renée Benson, a young woman who was scanning the curbsides with him.

"Please do," she replied.

He walked to the car and, from a stack in his hand, took out a card colored the bright orange of a New York City parking ticket and imprinted with the word "violation." He slipped it under the windshield
wiper.

The owner of the car was in for a bout of that stomach-dropping feeling that accompanies the discovery of a ticket. But Mr. Edmonds and Ms. Benson, friends in their 20's, are not with the Police Department. The card was a message from people who hate sport utility vehicles, and the "violation" was owning one.

"Did you get excited when you saw that ad for an S.U.V. in the remote wilderness?" the text on the fake ticket read. "Did you want to sue the manufacturer for false advertising when you started driving
it to the shopping center instead?" It went on — at some length — to castigate S.U.V.'s for their gasoholic tendencies and S.U.V. drivers for buying them.

"Think about it!" the flier said. "Why do you need such a HUGE car? This is not a militarized zone!" It accused the driver of "polluting more than your fair share."

Challenging the owners of S.U.V.'s isn't new. In Manhattan, vigilantes have been putting crude fliers trumpeting accusations like "Your car is a killer" on S.U.V.'s for at least two years, and in Brooklyn, a magazine editor organized a protest in which a number of "No S.U.V. Parking" signs were placed on a street last December.

But the phenomenon appears to be growing in size and intensity. Mr. Edmonds and Ms. Benson were working with Earth on Empty, a group concerned about air pollution and global warming that has begun distributing professionally designed and mass-produced ticket look-alikes in a score of states.

Trying a different tactic, two women let the air out of the tires of S.U.V.'s parked at Johnson Ford, a dealership in Kingston, N.Y., last year. This month the were sentenced to 50 hours each of community
service.

"There are many of us at the dealership who are environmentally aware," said Vincent Martello, the marketing manager of the Johnson Auto Group, which owns the dealership. "I just think that the strategy
that they chose was not an effective one."

Some responses to anti-S.U.V. activism are less restrained. In Greenwich Village, Mr. Edmonds and Ms. Benson didn't wait around to see their victims' reactions, but it's a safe bet they were not warm ones. What the protesters see as activism looks to some on the receiving end like harassment.

"We get really, really nasty e-mails all the time," said John, a founder of Earth on Empty who monitors messages to the group's Web site, www.earthonempty.com. The Web address is printed plainly on
the phony tickets.

John, who lives in Cambridge, Mass., would give only his first name because, he said, he has been receiving hostile phone calls from people who have somehow found out about his anti-S.U.V. work. But he did share a sampling of the e-mail messages. In just a dozen of them, S.U.V. proponents called Earth on Empty members tree-huggers, time-wasters, socialists, elitists, litterers, blue-collar workers, freedom-removers, leftists, losers, homosexuals, Democrats and filthy people. And those were the printable epithets.

John himself once met an S.U.V. owner face to face while he was ticketing. The owner and his girlfriend were inside, but not visible from a distance. The owner got out and chased John away from
the car, shouting profanities. The group advises its helpers not to give out the tickets before 10 p.m. and not to confront drivers.

The sneak-and-strike policy may be prudent, but it leaves some of the S.U.V. owners incensed. "I don't
want to say it's cowardly, but it's leaving something and running," said Darren Thayer, 29, whose Ford
Explorer was ticketed in Cape Elizabeth, Me., on Aug. 3.

Christina Allen, 18, who was with her boyfriend when his '88 Jeep Cherokee was ticketed this month in a Wal-Mart parking lot in Eagan, Minn., said they both thought at first that the flier was a real
parking ticket. "Once we figured out what it was," she said, "we were really mad."

The thrust of the Earth on Empty message is about fuel economy. But some of the ticketers have other concerns. Candice Manson, 23, another New York activist, hates being trapped behind outsize cars when she's on the road herself. "When you're stuck in traffic behind an S.U.V.," she said, "you don't know why you're stuck in traffic."

John, who runs the Earth on Empty Web site, says the group wants to stigmatize S.U.V. owners the way militant animal lovers have stigmatized women who wear fur coats.

In Greenwich Village, Ms. Benson and Mr. Edmonds cast their net widely; they ticketed a Toyota RAV4, a small S.U.V. that gets 22 to 31 miles per gallon. But Earth on Empty officially advises "Go for the
monsters!"

It hands out a guide listing 14 of the "hugest S.U.V.'s": the Cadillac Escalade, GMC Denali, Land Rover Range Rover, Ford Excursion and Expedition, Toyota Land Cruiser and Sequoia, Lincoln Navigator,
Mercedes M-Class, Dodge Durango, Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, Mercury Mountaineer and Lexus LS 470.

In general, the ticketers are proudest when they snag the big fish. "I like the Excursions because they're so huge for no reason," Mr. Edmonds said. And when Ms. Manson spotted a stretch limousine made from a Navigator, she gave it two tickets.

The stretch may be hard to justify, but many drivers who send e-mail messages to Earth on Empty's Web site are quick to defend their S.U.V.'s.

"We are a family of six with three dogs, often driving eight," one wrote. "What else should we drive? Three cars?"

Another wrote, "We have a home in the country, and the dirt roads can be hard to drive on, especially in the winter and mud season."

One man told a sobering story. "You have no idea why I drive the vehicle I have," his message said. "Maybe, just maybe, it's because my wife and myself have lost a son in an accident and want my family
to be safe. Try losing a child."

But in at least one case, an Earth on Empty flier brought about a conversion. Janice Gilmer, 50, a massage therapist from the Upper West Side, said that when she read the fake ticket left on her Nissan
Pathfinder, she had a moment of epiphany.

"I never would have bought my S.U.V. if I had any idea about the pollution and the waste of gas and unnecessary size and strength of it," she said. "I've never put it in four-wheel-drive once."

http://www.web.apc.org/~nben/envnews/media/02/sept/battle.htm
 

The Toninator

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Jul 6, 2001
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January 5, 2003
The Lawyers Are Lurking Over S.U.V.'s
By DANIEL AKST


F you are a motorist, you may be worried about the safety threat posed by all those hulking sport utility vehicles. But if you are an automaker, your big worry until now has been regulation. S.U.V.'s have been a godsend, after all, to the auto companies, providing enormous profits and a bulwark against the foreign competition that has made the car business so tough.

Customers liked S.U.V.'s, and Washington hadn't seemed to be in any mood to regulate, so the profits kept coming. All that may soon change, however, and for automakers, it's time to be afraid — very afraid.

It's not that buyers are losing their taste for these gas-guzzling, rollover-prone behemoths. The problem is, a new class of people — the nation's trial lawyers — is about to develop a special affection for S.U.V.'s.

The beginning of a new year is a good time for predictions, so here's mine: S.U.V.'s are next on the agenda for the plaintiff's bar. In America, for better or worse, we regulate hazards of this kind through the tort system. Public policy on tobacco, firearms and asbestos, among other hazards, has been shaped in recent years by this crude tool. More recently, a lawsuit was filed against a fast-food company, accusing it of making plaintiffs fat.

But why now? Is there something about the law or the facts that suddenly makes the legal case against S.U.V.'s compelling? The answer is that these suits have less to do with the law or the facts than with the social climate. The tobacco suits, for instance, would have seemed preposterous in the days when many more people smoked. But smoking eventually became socially unacceptable. Smokers were increasingly marginalized until they were finally ejected altogether from most public buildings, and cigarettes, once the height of cool, are now very much the opposite.

The same is about to happen with S.U.V.'s. While sales remain strong, these vehicles are palpably losing cachet. Car shoppers are learning from the news media about market research showing S.U.V. buyers to be insecure and vain. Around the country, efforts are cropping up to dissuade or even shame S.U.V. drivers, including the "What Would Jesus Drive?" campaign of the Evangelical Environmental Network.

The efforts of S.U.V.-haters and trial lawyers will receive a boost from Keith Bradsher's new book, "High and Mighty: S.U.V.'s — the World's Most Dangerous Vehicles and How They Got That Way" (PublicAffairs), which could become the modern equivalent of Ralph Nader's "Unsafe at Any Speed." That book, which was published in the 1960's and focused on the Chevrolet Corvair, helped revolutionize auto safety.

This is not to suggest that the facts on S.U.V.'s look good. Mr. Bradsher, a correspondent for The New York Times and formerly the paper's bureau chief in Detroit, reports that for every life saved by a Ford Explorer, five others will be taken. If your car is hit from the side by another car, he writes, you are 6.6 times likelier to die than someone in the striking vehicle; but if you are hit by an S.U.V., the ratio rises to 30 to 1. They might as well call these things plaintiff makers.

And if you think buying an S.U.V. will protect you, think again. There is an automotive arms race out there, but it will not help anyone. According to Mr. Bradsher, the death rate for those in S.U.V.'s is 6 percent higher than it is for those in cars.

So, based on the facts alone, S.U.V. plaintiffs would seem to have a plausible case — particularly those who were victimized while driving regular cars. But the truth is, the facts aren't even that important. In the case of silicone breast implants, for instance, the science is quite definitive: these implants do not cause any major diseases. Yet that made no difference in the lawsuits, which took off on the wings of sympathetic female plaintiffs, a product fallen into social disrepute and a highly evolved, well-financed plaintiffs' bar.

Some S.U.V. suits have been filed already, particularly relating to deaths and injuries from rollovers. With the kind of money at stake — automakers are classic deep-pocket parties — more serious litigation will come, including the inevitable class actions. Don't be surprised if some ambitious state attorneys general get into the act, too.

We may even see a social benefit from such litigation. As Mercedes-Benz has proved, it's entirely possible to design an S.U.V. that is reasonably safe for its owners as well as everyone else on the road. A lot of other car companies will soon discover the same thing. All they need is a little help from their lawyer friends.
http://www.federalismproject.org/masterpages/links and articles/The Lawyers Are Lurking Over S_U_V_'s.htm
 

Tenchiro

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Jul 19, 2002
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LOL, so many people have their panties in abunch over SUV's, but don't seem to give a crap about pickemup trucks. It's not like the big ones are eny better with fuel economy, or any lighter.

I just wish people would use up all the gas, then we could all just run hydrogen based cars and people could quit bitching.
 

The Toninator

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Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by Tenchiro
LOL, so many people have their panties in abunch over SUV's, but don't seem to give a crap about pickemup trucks. It's not like the big ones are eny better with fuel economy, or any lighter.

I just wish people would use up all the gas, then we could all just run hydrogen based cars and people could quit bitching.
and use up all of our hydrogen??? are you ****ing mad???!!!!:eek:
 

powderboy

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Jan 16, 2002
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See Dar Hills, OOTah
There will always be someone to put the blame on besides yourself... ALWAYS!!!

I can see the point of being a SUV hater, but c'mon! The true-blue Americans drive big 'ol F350 Pickups and Suburbans. When I have enough kids, there's no real other option for an active family than to buy an SUV.

A van is just as bad as driving an SUV, so why not start attacking everything other than the Geo Metro?

Granted, there are a whole slew of SUV wussies that have never gone off-road and never will. Those people should be driving something else, but it's hard to tell someone what to drive and think them Un-American just because they are fueling one of the largest industries in the US, the auto industry.

People need to work together and push for better fuel economy and hybrid SUV's.

I drive a Subaru Outback because it has enough room for everything, goes off-road (as much as I want to) and gets decent gas mileage.

Pretty soon, if you don't have a car that gets at least 20mpg, you'll be getting mail bombs! Whackos!!!
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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Originally posted by powderboy
think them Un-American just because they are fueling one of the largest industries in the US, the auto industry.
Must be a typo. I think you meant one of the largest industries in MEXICO...

Detroi-who?, Michi-where?
 

powderboy

Monkey
Jan 16, 2002
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See Dar Hills, OOTah
Originally posted by ohio
Must be a typo. I think you meant one of the largest industries in MEXICO...

Detroi-who?, Michi-where?
Well, this is true. Nothing is truly American or truly Japanese with multiple nations and suppliers getting into the mix of just about everything these days.

What I'm saying is that the money from these sales does fuel thousands of jobs in the USA.

I just think it is poor timing to attack so many Americans and their SUV's when the economy is so bad. Not that there's a "perfect" time to protest stuff, but geezzz...

Do these people want to live in a socialist society where everyone has to do what's expected or they will be killed, beaten or threatened? Granted there has to be some kind of social responsibility here, but...

Being a SUV-hating jerkwad and forcing your beliefs on others is more un-American than driving an SUV dammit!!!

Sorry, these kinds of people get me all in a wad.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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I think im going to make some fliers of my own, so that every time i see something i dont agree with, i can skate out of having to back up an argument by leaving a random piece of paper instead.

I'll make some especially for hippies, and every time i see one, I'll staple a flier to their forehead. They'll say things like...

"Unwashed dreadlocks pose a substancial risk to society in that they contain an entirely self sufficient eco-system of breeding germs and filth"

and

"Petrulie makes 9 out of every 10 non hippies want to vomit, consider taking a shower instead of dousing yourself with a nauseating chemical."

or

"Dont blame the economy because you're out of work, blame the fact that you;re and unpresentable lazy slob, and no one in their right mind would hire you even if they did have work available."

You get the picture.

:mad: :mad:
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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TN
Originally posted by The Toninator
whats "Petrulie?"

Its this kind of Rancid perfume hippies use to try and cover their filthiness, it smells kind of like putting on old spice after playing basketball in arizona without a shower.
 

The Toninator

Muffin
Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by BurlySurly
Its this kind of Rancid perfume hippies use to try and cover their filthiness, it smells kind of like putting on old spice after playing basketball in arizona without a shower.
oh man now i hate suv's and Hippies. ****ing hippies.
 

Damn True

Monkey Pimp
Sep 10, 2001
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Between a rock and a hard place.
It's some sort of oil that hippies wear. They think it smells good and hides their BO and pot smell from not taking showers. In truth it smells like wet dirt. The hippies wind up smelling like BO, pot, and wet dirt.
 

jhusktrials

Monkey
Dec 29, 2001
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Lets organize an anti-hippie onslaught of Boulder. We can use my house as the rendezvous point, than attack those damn hippies.

Here and now let's start AAH(Americans Against Hippies). Breath a sigh of relief into our country:).
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
19,180
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TN
Originally posted by jhusktrials
Lets organize an anti-hippie onslaught of Boulder. We can use my house as the rendezvous point, than attack those damn hippies.

Here and now let's start AAH(Americans Against Hippies). Breath a sigh of relief into our country:).
Right on, i see the formation of a new anti-hippie clique in its infancy.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
6,649
24
SF, CA
One time I had a thing for this girl with huge dreadlocks

She was so hot

Then she cut them all off

Without her dreadlocks she looked teeny weeny

Like she was malnourished

I don't have a thing for her anymore