Tail Whip/ Tail Tweak Help
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Just keep riding and once you get comfortable in the air you will start to do it almost second nature. getting it over there is the easy part, bringing it all the way back is where it gets a little tricky.
Turn a little off the lip, and the bike will lean to the side in the air, that's how you whip a dirt bike. The hard part is pushing it back straight before landing.
straighten it back up was always my problem
dont call it a tail tweak.... its called a whip
I've never really tried to explain it, it kinda comes naturally once you're comfortable in the air. It helps to push down on both pedals and pull up on the bars to create the tension that makes your feet stick to the pedals, once you've got that going, your bike will follow whatever you do with your body.
20 mins between the original post, and this request... settle down, you can't expect instant gratification when you're asking for help on an internet forum, give it a few days and you'll have some good replies.Rob8all said:
I can't do it either, I get a little tweak:
But I can't get it sideways like this:
Practice makes perfect I guess.
But I can't get it sideways like this:
Practice makes perfect I guess.
Once you get comfortable in the air you can just do it like punkassean said. I learned at whistler i just started laying my bike over to do tables and slowly got more comfident and now i just kinda twist my body. It probably looks ugly but eh i act like i got style.
It helped me to start out by getting really comfortable turning my bars in the air. T wihp, though, what I do is turn a little as I go off a jump, then pray that it will straighten out before I land! If you live near anywhere with a trail like A-Line (nonstop small to medium jumps), that would be THE place to learn. I'm sure you know this, but I haven't found doubles to be good places to learn to do anything...
think if your L hand to your R armpit or visa/versa
I prefer to whip the rear end to the left side. I turn slightly to the right off the lip of the jump. Then push my left hand across my body and down. At the same time I let my legs push the rear end out.
I try to do it all in a flowing motion to roll the the rear end out and then back again.
I landed totally straight off both these jumps.
I try to do it all in a flowing motion to roll the the rear end out and then back again.
I landed totally straight off both these jumps.
it your left foots forward turn the bike right.
Hmm, I'm not sure. I found that I do moto whips to the left and table tops to the right. In a table top, I just use my arms to lay the bike over.Rob8all said:
A good way to practice turning the bike in the air is to hit a tabletop or double jump that is "hipped" or has a turn to it, where you are forced to turn the bike if you wish to match the landing and stay on the track.
Just so you know, a tailwhip is where a rider kicks the bike out and lets it do a 360 while the rider stays stationary continues holding the bars.
TWISTED said:
If you whip to the side that your rear foot is, it's generally a lot easier to pull the bike back IMO. I ride right forward, and used to whip to the right, but found it hard to pull the bike back properly, it's like you don't have enough leverage or something. I made myself learn them the other way and can get them pretty much a full 90 degrees, and pull it back dead straight, even over little jumps.
I was doing whips on my motocross bike for ten years before trying them on a mountain bike. I'm not even really sure what it is that I'm doing. I'm pretty sure that I don't actually use my legs to bring the rear back in, since I often do no footed whips and bring the back end straight with my feet off. I use one smooth rolling motion that naturally brings the rear end up, over, out, down, and back. Watch some motocross videos.thaflyinfatman said:
This is different than a "kick-out", or "tabletop".
stoney the whipper snapper
TWISTED said:Luc, I saw your name on a list that came across my desk today. Something about your new bike.
you work at "K"?TWISTED said:
By whip (on the moto), do you mean as in the kind that lays the bike kind of flat before kicking the rear end up/out? The whips I do (on mtb) are only around a vertical axis, I don't lay the bike over at all.
sure can:thaflyinfatman said:
Best way I've found so far is to keep the bike as close up to you as you can in the air (this way your arms and legs are in pretty close and you can do most of the whip motion by just extending your arms and legs instead of completely rotating your body). Use your arms first slightly before you throw your legs into it (like someone said before, left handle to your right armpit and vice versa). Remember to keep your torso straight and you should be able to correct it pretty easily. Basically keep looking straight ahead, which is a good strategy when riding no matter what, and let your arms and legs do their thing. If you keep looking down you're going to just pull a quarter turn in the air, land sideways, crash hard and look like an ass...kind of like Bender trying to be stylish. I still find that I use my forearms to do a lot of the motion by kind of rotating the handlebars to get the bike sideways to the ground as well.
I like to picture it as rotating the bike around a cetral axis located along the top tube more near the seat tube. The bike rotates around this point. Rear goes one way, front goes the other. then reverse...in reality just practice, i found I could get the motion down on little hip type jumps where i could whip and land like that. Then from there I practiced getting back. It should look something like this:
