It's finished now right?
TDF Stage 18
- Thread starter DRB
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17:06 - Cadel Leads Lance Over The Line...
Evans has claimed 11th place head of Armstrong, Basso and Ullrich. This quartet finished about 25" ahead of Rasmussens group which included Mancebo.
Evans has claimed 11th place head of Armstrong, Basso and Ullrich. This quartet finished about 25" ahead of Rasmussens group which included Mancebo.
Any change in the GC?
Hold your horses there junior. There will be some changes in 7 thru 9. And some time changes between Ullrich and Rasmussen.N8 said:
DRB said:
Info....!! come on NewzMan... give us the info!
1. Marcos Serrano - 189km in 4h3736" (40.85km/h)
2. Cedric Vasseur at 27"
3. Axel Merckx - at 27"
4. Xabier Zandio at 108"
5. Franco Pellizotti at 108"
6. Thomas Voeckler - at 118"
7. Luke Roberts - at 128"
8. Matthias Kessler - at 1444"
9. Egoi Martinez - at 203"
10. Carlos Da Cruz - 238"
11. Cadel Evans - at 1118"
12. Lance Armstrong - at 1118"
13. Ivan Basso - at 1118"
14. Jan Ullrich - at 1118"
15. Alexandre Vinokourov - at 1155"
16. Mickael Rasmussen - at 1155"
17. Levi Leipheimer - at 1155"
18. Francisco Mancebo - at 1155"
19. Leonardo Piepoli - at 1201"
20. Floyd Landis - at 1207"
That's the stage results
2. Cedric Vasseur at 27"
3. Axel Merckx - at 27"
4. Xabier Zandio at 108"
5. Franco Pellizotti at 108"
6. Thomas Voeckler - at 118"
7. Luke Roberts - at 128"
8. Matthias Kessler - at 1444"
9. Egoi Martinez - at 203"
10. Carlos Da Cruz - 238"
11. Cadel Evans - at 1118"
12. Lance Armstrong - at 1118"
13. Ivan Basso - at 1118"
14. Jan Ullrich - at 1118"
15. Alexandre Vinokourov - at 1155"
16. Mickael Rasmussen - at 1155"
17. Levi Leipheimer - at 1155"
18. Francisco Mancebo - at 1155"
19. Leonardo Piepoli - at 1201"
20. Floyd Landis - at 1207"
That's the stage results
Jan Ullrich - at 1118"
He's moved up to 4th for the overall place
He's moved up to 4th for the overall place
Overall now
1 001 ARMSTRONG Lance DSC USA
2 021 BASSO Ivan CSC ITA 02' 46"
3 057 RASMUSSEN Mickael RAB DEN 03' 46"
4 011 ULLRICH Jan TMO GER 05' 58"
5 031 MANCEBO Francisco IBA ESP 07' 08"
6 164 LEIPHEIMER Levi GST USA 08' 12"
7 044 EVANS Cadel DVL AUS 09' 49"
8 019 VINOKOUROV Alexandre TMO KAZ 10' 11"
9 066 LANDIS Floyd PHO USA 10' 42"
10 101 MOREAU Christophe C.A FRA 13' 15"
So Evans goes back ahead of Vino and Landis. Ullrich closes 37" closer to Rasmussen which makes it likely he will pass him in the TT for a podium spot.
Tomorrow is unlikely to produce splits in the top GC guys. So if you want to move up the list you better get the TT legs going
1 001 ARMSTRONG Lance DSC USA
2 021 BASSO Ivan CSC ITA 02' 46"
3 057 RASMUSSEN Mickael RAB DEN 03' 46"
4 011 ULLRICH Jan TMO GER 05' 58"
5 031 MANCEBO Francisco IBA ESP 07' 08"
6 164 LEIPHEIMER Levi GST USA 08' 12"
7 044 EVANS Cadel DVL AUS 09' 49"
8 019 VINOKOUROV Alexandre TMO KAZ 10' 11"
9 066 LANDIS Floyd PHO USA 10' 42"
10 101 MOREAU Christophe C.A FRA 13' 15"
So Evans goes back ahead of Vino and Landis. Ullrich closes 37" closer to Rasmussen which makes it likely he will pass him in the TT for a podium spot.
Tomorrow is unlikely to produce splits in the top GC guys. So if you want to move up the list you better get the TT legs going
DRB said:
It's going to be close for Ullrich, but I think he will make third. That 37 seconds may well be the key.
What is the deal with Landis? I had heard Lance & co. were really trying to drop him because of some comments he made to the French press. I can't find these comments anywhere.
Hawkeye said:
Goto to Cyclingnews.com and read from yesterdays articles.
The gap from Razz to Ulrich is now 2:12
That ain't gonna cut it in the TT.
Chicken will be deep fried and land in 4th.
Yeah so.
Thanks.
Nothing new there I guess. In the LA's War book you can tell they never really got along to well.
Nothing new there I guess. In the LA's War book you can tell they never really got along to well.
Floyd wanted to be taken out for an ice cream cone, and talk about their feelings.
And have baby powder put on his bottom......Jeremy R said:
The best quote in the LAs War is from Floyd
the TT is going to be interesting if ras doesnt lose anymore time tomorrow on jan. the was 2:04 behind jan on the first TT but was he really motivated to put in a big performance? I dont think so. Is he as good of a TTest as Jan, nope, but there's nothing a Marine and his rifle cant accomplish.
Jan is now 2:12 behind ras. it's will be interesting. I'd like to see ras keep his spot if nothing more than to show that jan is a looser. damn how bad is that when a MOUNTAIN biker beats the #2 contender in such a prestigious race?
Jan is now 2:12 behind ras. it's will be interesting. I'd like to see ras keep his spot if nothing more than to show that jan is a looser. damn how bad is that when a MOUNTAIN biker beats the #2 contender in such a prestigious race?
The Toninator said:
The second TT is longer, I can't see how he can avoid losing more time than the first unless Ullric crashed like he did in '03 (?). Basso seems to have second locked up, he isn't going to lose 4 minutes.
I get a kick out of the fact that Rasmussen and Evans and three Americans are going to finish ahead of Moreau. I hate him almost as much as MMike.The Toninator said:
why do you dislike Moreau? (mmike is obvious)DRB said:
basso looks solid i'd expect him to stay put but again i'm not sure ras went all out on the first TT.Reactor said:
I just do. I guess its a sense of entitlement I feel he has. Every interview or article I have read with him he comes off sounding like an a$$. The great white (french) hype.The Toninator said:
Well, if I was a betting man.........The Toninator said:
Here are the facts:
Ulrich beat Razz by 2:06 in the short opening time trail that was only 19km
long.
Ulrich was banged up then, and Razz did not have anything on the line.
But Ulrich gets stronger in a 3 week tour, and Razz has been struggling in the final week.
Ulrich can throw down in a TT when he is on form, and this one is 55.5km long.
I don't even think it will be close.
Or maybe I am full of crap, because I have always been a fan of Jan's since he was runner up to Riis a gazillion years ago.
Maybe we can have an ice cream or a struddle one day.
You do seem to have a mancrush going on. Not there is anything wrong with that.Jeremy R said:Well, if I was a betting man.........
Here are the facts:
Ulrich beat Razz by 2:06 in the short opening time trail that was only 19km
long.
Ulrich was banged up then, and Razz did not have anything on the line.
But Ulrich gets stronger in a 3 week tour, and Razz has been struggling in the final week.
Ulrich can throw down in a TT when he is on form, and this one is 55.5km long.
I don't even think it will be close.
Or maybe I am full of crap, because I have always been a fan of Jan's since he was runner up to Riis a gazillion years ago.
Maybe we can have an ice cream or a struddle one day.
so you are going to give me 5 minutes + the 2:06 for $10 but believe that jas is still going to beat him? I'll take a piece of that action.Jeremy R said:Well, if I was a betting man.........
Here are the facts:
Ulrich beat Razz by 2:06 in the short opening time trail that was only 19km
long.
Ulrich was banged up then, and Razz did not have anything on the line.
But Ulrich gets stronger in a 3 week tour, and Razz has been struggling in the final week.
Ulrich can throw down in a TT when he is on form, and this one is 55.5km long.
I don't even think it will be close.
Or maybe I am full of crap, because I have always been a fan of Jan's since he was runner up to Riis a gazillion years ago.
Maybe we can have an ice cream or a struddle one day.
DRB said:
Sounds like it
Can Jan make up 3 minutes to Basso???
I know it's a lot of time, but like someone said, Jan really comes into form late in the Tour. Did someone say something yesterday about Basso now being a good TTer? All I can remember was the horrid TT he put out in last year's Tour. F'n ugly from what I remember, but then again, my memory blows.
I know it's a lot of time, but like someone said, Jan really comes into form late in the Tour. Did someone say something yesterday about Basso now being a good TTer? All I can remember was the horrid TT he put out in last year's Tour. F'n ugly from what I remember, but then again, my memory blows.
Mtb_Rob_FL said:
Hey, this coming from someone who constantly takes ghey azz pictures of trailriders with their arms around one another sporting nuthuggers hanging out on some mountain vista. :heart:
How do you get the ice cream all the way up there without it melting?
Nah, I am actually just a huge tour fan, I always have been, since Indurain.
Which if funny considering I never pick a road ride over a MTB ride.
Oh well, Lance is going to crush the TT. :dancing:
Jeremy R said:Hey, this coming from someone who constantly takes ghey azz pictures of trailriders with their arms around one another sporting nuthuggers hanging out on some mountain vista. :heart:
How do you get the ice cream all the way up there without it melting?
Floyd would love them.
How about................No.The Toninator said:
If Chicken loses 7:06, he should have his bike taken away. :eviltongu
indieboy said:
Yeah. There is no way Jan is getting second.
but wait!!!! were you just talking out your buttJeremy R said:
take the actual bet away. you said it wasnt even going to be close so i was trying to establish what 'wasnt close' was.jan beat ras by 2:04 in 19K. This stage is 55k. So that's almost 6:12 if he stays consistant.
so what is not close going to be?
to boot. the TT stage lance caught basso on last year was a pure climb. straight up alpe d'auz. not an easy thing for anyone who spent their days riding off with lance up those mtn passes. he's in much better condition this year and the tt is an actual tt. watch
so your saying Basso is going to beat lances time and win the TT?indieboy said:
i'll take a little of that action burger boi.
ATTACK MUTHA****ER!!!!indieboy said:
Losers 'simply defend' 2nd place.
As for last year Lance passed Basso on the Alpe which wasn't so much a time trial as a hill climb. In the last TT, which was a real TT, Lance almost passed him on that one as well. Ullrich put almost 2' into him. So no matter how you slice he sucked at TTs last year regardless of type.
Basso has improved his TT by a huge margin. He won the second TT in the giro and came in second on the first one. He worked alot in the off season on it. HOWEVER, the Giro ain't in the same league as the Tour. He still is not in Lance or Ullrich's class in the TT. Basso will lose time to Lance and probably Ullrich as well.
BUT that being said he won't lose 2 minutes to Ullrich so he isn't going anywhere on the GC.
As for Lance its simply a matter of how much....
The more interesting questions come in 5 thru 9. Can Mancebo hold off Levi? Where will Vino, Evans and Floyd come out of this?
Basso has improved his TT by a huge margin. He won the second TT in the giro and came in second on the first one. He worked alot in the off season on it. HOWEVER, the Giro ain't in the same league as the Tour. He still is not in Lance or Ullrich's class in the TT. Basso will lose time to Lance and probably Ullrich as well.
BUT that being said he won't lose 2 minutes to Ullrich so he isn't going anywhere on the GC.
As for Lance its simply a matter of how much....
The more interesting questions come in 5 thru 9. Can Mancebo hold off Levi? Where will Vino, Evans and Floyd come out of this?
MOREAU is going to bitch smack your bois and jump into 5th. Watch, just watch!DRB said:
only sissy italians and italian wana bees race the giro.indieboy said: