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$tinkle

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Low-Crime Japan Seeks Answers to Killing of Mayor of Nagasaki
NAGASAKI, Japan, April 18 — Japan, a nation that prides itself on low crime rates, was searching for answers on Wednesday in the death of this southern Japanese city’s mayor in a murky gang-related killing.

The mayor, Kazunaga Ito, 61, who used the name Itcho Ito [any relation to the ito?] in public life, was shot twice in the back on Tuesday night on a sidewalk here after a campaign speech, said Hirozumi Chiyoda, a spokesman for the Nagasaki prefecture police. He died hours later in a local hospital from blood loss, Mr. Chiyoda said.
how does a nation of suspected killers function?
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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When you outlaw guns only outlaws have guns. Perfect illustration right there:rolleyes:. Wonder if I can get a Hello Kitty Glock?
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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Those are collectors items right?
Frankly, that's sort of a revolting concept...just like when I learned about these things when my wife found them on eBay...I was like "WHO BUYS A USED VIBRATOR?!"

I ended up getting ours NIB from JList, however...but we seem to have lost it somehow.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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Frankly, that's sort of a revolting concept...just like when I learned about these things when my wife found them on eBay...I was like "WHO BUYS A USED VIBRATOR?!"

I ended up getting ours NIB from JList, however...but we seem to have lost it somehow.
nothing beats that new-in-box smell, eh sport?
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Frankly, that's sort of a revolting concept...just like when I learned about these things when my wife found them on eBay...I was like "WHO BUYS A USED VIBRATOR?!"

I ended up getting ours NIB from JList, however...but we seem to have lost it somehow.
Ours?
:shocked:

One for the wife is fine but I figured you'd be more of a GI Joe brand vibrator person.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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assault vibrator? it should have a carbon fiber ejection port.
Could be a new line for SIG, H&K, or even S&W...

Talk about beating swords into plowshares.

The Glock, of course, would be machine-washable.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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At least a pistol grip.
Well, if the Democratic congress has its way, simple ergonomic features like pistol grips will be banned, even though the vibrator is no more powerful than a vibrator without one.

Don't even get me started on muzzle brakes or detachable battery magazines.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Well, if the Democratic congress has its way, simple ergonomic features like pistol grips will be banned, even though the vibrator is no more powerful than a vibrator without one.

Don't even get me started on muzzle brakes or detachable battery magazines.

You have to admit getting rid of the bayonet lugs is a good idea though.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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asian-american journalists assoc poo-poo platters profiling
SAN FRANCISCO (April 16, 2007) -- Like the rest of the nation, we at the Asian American Journalists Association (AAJA) are stunned at the news of today's shooting at Virginia Tech. Our thoughts are with the victims and their families and friends as they cope with this horrific incident.

As coverage of the Virginia Tech shooting continues to unfold, AAJA urges all media to avoid using racial identifiers unless there is a compelling or germane reason. There is no evidence at this early point that the race or ethnicity of the suspected gunman has anything to do with the incident, and to include such mention serves only to unfairly portray an entire people.
by their logic, should the press also not mention a suspected gunman's sex, as this could unfairly portray an entire people?

what purpose does the press serve if not to inform?
who's best served by restraint of information dissemination?
 

$tinkle

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There is your answer!
so if you were a broadcast journalist, you would avoid the term 'gunwoman' & in its place say 'female shooter'?

but back to the point: the aaja used either 'asian-american' or 'aaja' a combined dozen times in their one page press release.

is this pink elephant avoidance just another example of yellow journalism?
 

Changleen

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Jan 9, 2004
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Dumb ass journalism only made necessary by the stupidity and inherent racism of a large percentage of the audience?
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
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Dumb ass journalism only made necessary by the stupidity and inherent racism of a large percentage of the audience?
You dont think it's relevant to the story that the guy isnt an American citizen? You dont think that hearing and seeing a physical description of a famous/infamous individual has any value? Christ, it isnt racist to want to fully understand a story.
 

Changleen

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Sorry, replace 'made' with 'perceived to be' and 'by' with 'because of'.

Basically I agree with you. I was commenting on the reasons for, not the merit.
 

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Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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You dont think it's relevant to the story that the guy isnt an American citizen? You dont think that hearing and seeing a physical description of a famous/infamous individual has any value? Christ, it isnt racist to want to fully understand a story.
I don't think it's particularly interesting. It would, however, be interesting to those with an agenda.
 

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Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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So names and pictures of people shouldnt be published in the paper now. Right. Go listen to some more savage garden.
Don't deliberately be a clueless arsehole, I thought you'd got better.
It's no more interesting to me than the fact that he was studying English literature. The fact that he had not taken out American citizenship despite living 2/3 of his life there is mildly interesting but the fact that he was Korean does nothing to inform me as to why he did this. Unless, of course, you want to push the view he did because of his "foreigness". That of course is crap therefore gratutiously mentioning it is bunk.
 

MikeD

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Oct 26, 2001
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Well, while it is true that the repetition of his ethnicity is indeed gratuitous, it's honestly not racist, per se. If he was Irish, they'd be calling him an Irish gunman. It's just that he has a nationality beyond being American, so it's sensational.

When, I mean if, I naturalized in Oz and went nuts in Brisbane and shot a bunch of people, don't you think I'd be an American gunman in the Aussie press?

And that wouldn't be considered terrible, esp. b/c American is a nationality, while Korean is both a nationality and, more likely than not, an indicator of a particular racial group...so it seems to be a bit of racism when it's mentioned. (over and over and over)
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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Don't deliberately be a clueless arsehole, I thought you'd got better.
It's no more interesting to me than the fact that he was studying English literature. The fact that he had not taken out American citizenship despite living 2/3 of his life there is mildly interesting but the fact that he was Korean does nothing to inform me as to why he did this. Unless, of course, you want to push the view he did because of his "foreigness". That of course is crap therefore gratutiously mentioning it is bunk.
Not every bit of information about someone in a news article has to be about "why he did it." There's a pretty big human interest element in all of this, and I think the idea of withholding race or not showing images so as to refuse people certain information is unethical. I was just giving you a little crap before, but really, what's the point of news? To give people information. Who is going to decided what information people need or need not know? Was it of any interest to you that the Sept. 11th hijackers were muslim? People gain understanding and further enlightenment from MORE information, not less.
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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Not every bit of information about someone in a news article has to be about "why he did it." There's a pretty big human interest element in all of this, and I think the idea of withholding race or not showing images so as to refuse people certain information is unethical. I was just giving you a little crap before, but really, what's the point of news? To give people information. Who is going to decided what information people need or need not know? Was it of any interest to you that the Sept. 11th hijackers were muslim? People gain understanding and further enlightenment from MORE information, not less.
The fact that the 9/11 hijackers were Muslim informed their actions so in this case of course it's relevant.
The only way race could be relevant here is the fact that he's not white. Most of these mass-murderers are. But I haven't seen, and don't expect to see, any news outlets following that line of thinking. Nor should they, it's irrelevant, just like the fact he was Korean. We don't need to be reminded every 2 seconds.
 

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Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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When, I mean if, I naturalized in Oz and went nuts in Brisbane and shot a bunch of people, don't you think I'd be an American gunman in the Aussie press?
Not a good example there Mike. You should know that before "American shooter" we'd put the adjective "gun-crazy" so as to fit it in to out view of you lot.:twitch:
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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The fact that the 9/11 hijackers were Muslim informed their actions so in this case of course it's relevant.
The only way race could be relevant here is the fact that he's not white. Most of these mass-murderers are. But I haven't seen, and don't expect to see, any news outlets following that line of thinking. Nor should they, it's irrelevant, just like the fact he was Korean. We don't need to be reminded every 2 seconds.
So who is it that decideds that this guy being from another country played no part in all of this? Who decides which information is right and wrong for us to get to know? Not saying we should be reminded of his race all the time, but it certainly is a part of the story.
 

valve bouncer

Master Dildoist
Feb 11, 2002
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So who is it that decideds that this guy being from another country played no part in all of this? Who decides which information is right and wrong for us to get to know? Not saying we should be reminded of his race all the time, but it certainly is a part of the story.
Good luck getting that dog to hunt. Be looking forward to hearing you flesh that angle out. I'd have thought his 15 years in America might have informed his actions at least as much as his 8 in Korea. Again race is irrelevant here, he didn't shoot anyone because he was Korean.