[jimmydean]

Y'all see this commute carbon footprint calculator on MSNBC?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29975486/

"Microsoft Silverlight is not supported in Linux". Go figure.

<edit> I'm not just for alternative transportation, I am also for alternative computing. Don't get me started on how little impact my Linux netbook has compared to my wifes Vista laptop

 

[Toshi]

for jimmydean: http://www.motoczysz.com/videos/e1_dyno.html . yeah, that's an electric superbike. whoa.

I want to know what it pulled! Looks hawt.

no figures yet but there's more handwaving and another video now: http://www.motoczysz.com/club/?p=211 . they claim 0-120 mph in 7-8 seconds for the production bike. that's literbike territory...

thad: cool link. i guess it assumes a driving commute in a single-occupancy average car? i'm pretty sure my 30 Wh/mile creates less carbon than what it estimated... (353 lbs CO2/yr using their assumptions for the farther of the two hospitals i work at.)

 

[jimmydean]

I see an Ohlins shock, good call. Looks kind of like an EV KTM RC8 (god, I hope so!)

 

[Toshi]

jay leno drives the aptera, and digs it.

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/05/20/video-jay-leno-drives-loves-the-aptera/

(video at link)

While Dave Letterman struggles to correctly describe the Chevrolet Volt, rival late-night host Jay Leno takes a bit more care to get things right in his test drive of the Aptera 2e. To get the facts straight, Leno interviews Paul Wilbur, Aptera's president and CEO. Wilbur explains how the car's solar panels keep the interior cool, talks about the vehicle's aerodynamics, and describes a little bit of the technology inside the 2e's sleek body. One cool thing we learn is that, thanks to the incredibly low drag on the 2e, taking your foot of the accelerator results in a very smooth bit of coasting. The last few minutes of the nine-minute video is of Jay Leno cruising down the California highway at 70 mph, with everybody and their brother snapping pictures as they drive by

 

[Toshi]

here's a company that's trying... yet builds really, really ugly machines! i wonder how they ride, and what the emissions from the auxiliary gas motor is...

ExerTrike. http://www.exertrike.com/available_models.html

several models of trike + the discontinued "geek chopper" . prices start at $2500 for electric only models, adding more for variants with a longer wheelbase, wider track, or even an extra seat. add $600 for a 1.6 hp 4-stroke subaru engine at the jackshaft (so it drives the vehicle through 8 gears), or $800 for a 2.5 hp 4-stroke honda engine. yes, it's a parallel "tri-hybrid": pedaling, electric hub motor, and the gas engine. add $450 for their wacky roof + windshield setup.

naked, electric only, extra long, extra wide version:

gasoline only, normal length, extra wide version with the "roof" and windshield:

their geek chopper: http://www.exertrike.com/geek_chopper.html

they discontinued this model after the owner of the company wrecked spectacularly on one. i agree: i don't think bicycle components and design are safe at near-highway speeds.

finally, their weird-ass "stealth" model that's competing in a 100 MPGe competition in massachusetts:

 

[Toshi]

Brusa is a Swiss electronics company that has apparently built a car to showcase their talent.

Brusa Spyder. http://www.brusa.biz/news/news.php?l_sel=2&idm=4&idk=54

weight of 1000 kg. top speed over 200 km/h. acceleration of less than 6 seconds to 100 km/h. 16 kWh of Kokam lithium. 2 x 95 kW electric motors in each of the back wheels. 2200 N-m of torque! two gear ratios: 1:1 and 1:5. 3.6 kW battery charger.

one of the cooler things, besides the fact that it looks awesome, is that their range estimate is via a chart, sort of how Tesla and Aptera do it:

Brusa also have some other interesting concepts and prototypes, namely an electric classic mini that they drove over the Alps, and a rollercoaster-like automated personal transport system concept.

 

[IH8Rice]

man, youre all over autoblog's RSS feed huh?

 

[Toshi]

man, youre all over autoblog's RSS feed huh?

heh, it's true. but i hunt out extra content and format it for your viewing pleasure. they post too many press releases, too.

 

[IH8Rice]

its a blog

 

[Total Heckler]

I hit over 200 miles on my bike commuting to work today. =]

Take that, car.

 

[Toshi]

here's a weird little machine (found courtesy of the autobloggreen rss feed ). it has all the right pieces and right ideas. with its mechanical layout i'm surprised it isn't over 100 mpg, actually...

Dirigo. http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/05/23/dirigo-three-wheeler-now-up-to-99-mpg-wood-panels-look-good/

Designed and built to compete in the Automotive X Prize, we have since dropped out, but finished the car and are still refining it. It is up to 99mpg on rolling country roads averaging 45mph. A hundred is within reach. Top speed so far 72mph. 0-60 about 30 seconds. Cars name is Dirigo, Latin for We Lead.

Particulars: Mid engine, front wheel drive. Three cylinder Diahatsu[sic] 950cc diesel, five speed transmission from '85 Ford Ranger. Shift pattern is reversed because the tranny is in backward. Front differential, suspension, and steering from Kawasaki Mule, rear end from '85 Kawasaki 750. Drum brakes front, disc rear. Body is strip plank wood, fenders carbon fiber.
1300 lbs., track 68", wheelbase 110".

here's a non-rss story: an electric Cagiva converted by a gentleman in england. it started out as a cagiva 125, first was fitted with lead (good for only 10 miles at 50 mph, however!) and now is receiving the lithium treatment. such stories and work are still very impressive but i'm even more resolute that converting machines is for the birds at this time.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=465

custom subframe to mount the Etek and Alltrax 7245. it bolts in at the original motor mounts:

ready to rumble:

give me a production model and give me good aerodynamics... in other words give me an aptera instead!

finally, a sobering reminder that basically everything in this thread is old hat. ettore bugatti was ahead of his time. here's a great illustration of how this was so:

Bugatti T72. http://www.bugattirevue.com/revue29/t72.htm

the bike was built in 1937, and i believe the engine is contemporary to the bike. specs: "the engine is about 10.5cc, one cylinder, 2 overhead cams and a compressor."

a similar idea to the Bugatti from Ducati, their Cucciolo:

http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/cucciolo/

 

[Toshi]

more TTXGP news hot off the autoblog presses (recall that the race itself is on june 12! http://www.ttxgp.com/ )

http://ridemission.com/blog/

... To minimize our energy use at high speeds, we?ve designed an entirely new super-aerodynamic fairing for the bike exclusively for the TTXGP - you can see it in the images above. (Don?t worry, it?ll get a snazzy paint job soon.) We?ve also optimized our gearing for our expected race speeds rather than for outright acceleration or top speed, and we?ve developed advanced dash displays to communicate information that will help our racer Tom Montano get around the Isle in race-winning time.

All of this new technology demanded a test in a venue more similar to the Isle of Man than a race track. Our COO found a nice lonely back road near his home with an elevation profile similar to the TT course, but this left a small stumbling block: with the new race fairings our bike lacks the requisite mirrors, turn signals, and such for street legality. We came up with a great solution: a police escort. The police routinely escort military vehicles without even such niceties as tires, let alone turn signals, so they figured escorting a motorcycle would be no problem.

Of course, we needed a rider, so this past Thursday I got to wear another hat for Mission: a motorcycle helmet. In the most thrilling day of my working life, I rode 40 miles following a car full of cameras, with a police cruiser on my tail. The bike felt fantastic - perfectly smooth yet with an eerie turbine-like wail, it poured out gobs of torque with a turn of the wrist at any speed, no shifting required. Consistent corner entries were easy, using ?engine braking? (actually regenerative braking - recharging the battery while slowing) to slow into a corner, then using easily controlled torque to power back out. I would have loved to spend the day exploring twisty side-roads, but instead I had to focus on my Mission: consistent speeds and power use for testing and data acquisition. The test came off terrifically, with great thanks to the California Highway Patrol who helped us pull off a safe and realistic test session.

 

[stevew]

the brusa spyder is the best looking thing that has been posted so far in this thread.

and the only thing i would consider owning.

 

[stevew]

neil youngs electric 59 lincoln

 

[Toshi]

neil youngs electric 59 lincoln

that's an interesting machine. the Lincvolt site is really hard to parse but this post seems to have the most relevant technical bits (which are still really handwavy!):

http://www.lincvolt.com/lincvolt_lincvoltgazette

Young said that with Compressed Natural Gas (CNS) "we got 65 miles per gallon; we switched to gasoline to see what we could do with gasoline." After the engine is warmed up, "we introduce the vaporizer - the vaporizer injects hot fumes into the rotary and since the rotary doesn't go up and down, it goes around, once we get it going on vaporized gasoline fumes, we get better efficiency out of the fumes." To generate hydrogen, LincVolt uses a water-cooled electrical control box to manage the electrical demands. The single-rotor engine drives a 75 kiloWatt UQM electric motor running in reverse, generating power to charge the batteries as neded. LincVolt's engine "runs at only one rpm - it runs at a sweet spot," explained Young, a feature that enhances engine efficiency. The engine is being tested to run on multiple fuel sources, with gasoline, CNG, plus "water gas" -- hydrogen produced via electrolysis from water carried on board.

Pointing to a water-cooled cylinder under the vast hood of the LincVolt, Young described the hydrogen generator: "this thing called a 'slog' - this converts water to a gas through electrolysis. We're working with this gas made from water, which you don't have to refill. It just creates a gas out of water. It's displacing an unknown amount of fuel at this time and that's one thing we're going to figure out here [VIPER]. We've had estimates that it's displacing up to 70% of fuel at this time, but we really don't know. But we know we can get more out of it than we're getting now," explains Young. "The big pie-in-the-sky goal is to eliminate the fuel. 80% of the cost of a gallon of gas comes from distributing and refining it. The cost of making oil to work in a car is what's expensive. So if people had something they could use from home, they wouldn't have to have this distribution system."

sounds like a Wankel running a generator which drives an electric powertrain along with some batteries for intermediate storage, with some other stuff about vapor (?) and electrolysis of water to hydrogen thrown in just to be weirder.

cool. it'll be interesting to see this one in the automotive x prize competition…

 

[JewBagel]

"once we get it going on vaporized gasoline fumes, we get better efficiency out of the fumes."

Interesting they chose a rotary.Wankles have a great power/liter ratio, are compact, and light, but they are not very efficient and emit higher levels of polluting gases.

 

[JewBagel]

Did a quick thread search and didn't find anything on it so I hope it's not a repost. I managed to miss this at the Frankfurt auto show in 2007(that place was gigantic 3hours of walking around = ~1/3 of the vendors w/not much time spent in each).

Toyota iQ. Supposedly to the US in 2010. Europe gets a 1.0L and 1.4L petrol or 1.4L turbo diesel. Mileage in the range of what the smart car initially promised, but never came close to. If you watch the video you'll see it actually can fit 3 large adults + someone small. E-rumors suggest a hybrid version in 4 years based of a toyota hybrid concept shown at some major auto show.

http://www.egmcartech.com/2009/02/09/video-fifth-gear-test-drives-the-toyota-iq/

 

[dlswjh]

what with gas prices and this being a biking site, bikes being in and of themselves a form of alternative personal transportation, i thought the lounge could use a semi-perennial thread on the same.

what this thread is for: discussion and information of ways to get around town or the country that are more efficient than their alternatives. the scale can be anything from a powered set of skate shoes to a massive SUV, provided that it meets the condition stated above.

here are a few examples to start gleaned from previous threads centered around particular products such as the Enertia:




generic electric bicycle (they're probably all cranked out by the same factory in china).

oh!! GOOD!!
http://www.nowgoal.com/24.shtml

 

[Toshi]

Did a quick thread search and didn't find anything on it so I hope it's not a repost. I managed to miss this at the Frankfurt auto show in 2007(that place was gigantic 3hours of walking around = ~1/3 of the vendors w/not much time spent in each).

Toyota iQ. Supposedly to the US in 2010. Europe gets a 1.0L and 1.4L petrol or 1.4L turbo diesel. Mileage in the range of what the smart car initially promised, but never came close to. If you watch the video you'll see it actually can fit 3 large adults + someone small. E-rumors suggest a hybrid version in 4 years based of a toyota hybrid concept shown at some major auto show.

http://www.egmcartech.com/2009/02/09/video-fifth-gear-test-drives-the-toyota-iq/

it is a repost but this thread is so ginormous that no one will begrudge you that. here's the last thing that i posted on it:

"this could be Toyota's iPod". Fifth Gear review of Toyota's iQ 3+1 seater minicar:

from the autoblog feed today we find a positive review of the Lexus HS250h, Lexus's new Prius-based sedan. i dig it. once i graduate back into the realms of car ownership i'll be looking hard at the Prius, but something like this might be in the cards in the future, too.

Lexus HS250h. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/26/first-drive-2010-lexus-hs-250h-is-pretty-on-the-inside/

i'm not sure of the price but i'd imagine $30-40k depending on trimmings. 35/33/34 city/hwy/combined mpg, which is best in the near-luxury class. 2.4 liter Atkinson cycle 4-banger, 245V electric bits, 187 hp and 138 ft.-lb. combined output through the CVT. 12.1 cubic foot trunk but no hatchback as found on the Prius. Cd of 0.27, just a hair up from that of the Prius. can drive on electric power alone at up to 20 mph for five minutes. from autoblog's text: "70% fewer smog-forming emissions find their way out of the tailpipe compared to conventional vehicles, and evaporative emissions are close to zero."

lots of gadgets and such:
- 85% recycleable
- dynamic radar cruise control with pre-collision system a la mercedes
- 10 airbags in case you do crash even with the above
- heads up display a la general motors
- wide-view rear and front cameras
- auto high/low beams
- voice command that allows you to speak in closer to normal English, or you can use the mouse, er, Remote Touch Controller instead
- OnStar type system called Lexus Enform
- eDestination, which lets one load up to 200 destinations from a computer or iPhone and upload them to the car's nav system
- interior accoutrements with a bioplastic derived from kenaf

all that and it's apparently entertaining to drive while remaining silent as a Lexus should be...

We have no problem recommending the Lexus HS 250h because it certainly gets two out of three things exactly right: the cabin experience sets a fine mark for what a luxury pure hybrid can be and the driving is enjoyable. Our V8-loving enthusiast hearts never really felt cheated when tooling around in the car ? in fact, we liked it. It's only the styling that gives us pause long enough to say that we will let other beholders judge that beauty for themselves.

If you're looking for a hybrid-only luxury car, this is the only place you can go for now. If you're looking at any entry-level luxury car, then the Lexus HS 250h is a fine place to start comparing the present choices with one possible future.

 

[CBJ]

If only it did not look like crap especially the dash board which looks like some show car from the future in a bad way.

 

[Toshi]

If only it did not look like crap especially the dash board which looks like some show car from the future in a bad way.

what looks so bad? it's better than the modern Civic/Insight multi-level star trek business imo...

 

[jimmydean]

I like it, and as a respectable doctor AND environmental hippie, you could rock that without guilt, Toshi.

 

[jimmydean]

There used to be time when diesel bikes were talked of as the slowest bikes on the road. Not any more. Indeed, this machine rates as just about the fastest machine going. On opening the throttle one rider described the thrust of the bike thus: "It's like the hand of God pushing you in the back"

It's cost is $150,000. Inventor Ted McIntyre of Marine Turbine Technology. Top speed is said to be over 250Mph. The gearbox has just one speed but who needs more when the turbines compressor speed is up around the 54,000rmp mark. The engine's meant to lift a 5,000 kg helicopter and it's only pushing a 230 kg bike. No wonder the tires start to smoke at 175Mph. Originally designed to run on Kerosene the engine has been de-tuned to run on good old diesel.

Motor: Rolls Royce Allison 250 gas turbine.
Power: 239kW @ 52 000rpm.
Torque: 577N.M. @ 54 000rpm.
Transmission: Single-speed plus neutral with chain final drive.
Suspension: 54mm White Power cartridge forks adjustable for compression and rebound damping at front. Ohing monoshock adjustable for preload, compression and rebound damping at rear.
Brakes: Twin 320mm floating discs with six-pot opposed piston Ferodo callipers at front, 320mm floating disc with six-pot opposed piston Ferodo calliper at rear.
Tyres: Front: 120/70-ZR17 tubeless. Rear: 200/50-ZR17 tubeless. Wheelbase: 1803mm.
Seat height: 800mm.
Dry weight: 209kg.
Fuel capacity: 34 litres (diesel).

 

[longdls]

what with gas prices and this being a biking site, bikes being in and of themselves a form of alternative personal transportation, i thought the lounge could use a semi-perennial thread on the same.

what this thread is for: discussion and information of ways to get around town or the country that are more efficient than their alternatives. the scale can be anything from a powered set of skate shoes to a massive SUV, provided that it meets the condition stated above.

here are a few examples to start gleaned from previous threads centered around particular products such as the Enertia:


generic electric bicycle (they're probably all cranked out by the same factory in china).

Very good!
http://www.nowgoal.com/24.shtml

 

[Toshi]

toyota announces their first production diesel electric hybrid:

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/05/27/toyota-announces-worlds-first-diesel-electric-hybrid-forklift/

oh yeah, it's a forklift. did i mention that? the scale of the powertrain looks pretty close to car-sized tho!

Powered by a 2.5-liter diesel engine mated up with a 26 kW electric motor and nickel metal hydride battery pack, the Geneo-Hybrid forklift is capable of lifting 3.5 tons and reportedly uses 50-percent less fuel with an equal reduction in carbon emissions.

in other news, autoblog reviewed the 2010 Prius, and, like the Lexus HS250h, actually thought it was somewhat entertaining to drive! (in addition to being a capacious, quiet, reliable, and efficient transportmobile) go figure:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/27/review-2010-toyota-prius-a-miser-with-new-moves/

 

[Toshi]

only a few weeks until the Isle of Man TTXGP! and now Brammo's entry has been unveiled formally, clad in official Best Buy regalia. sexy.

autoblog blurb: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/29/best-buy-official-sponsor-for-brammo-enertia-ttxgp-race-team/
official specs pdf: http://www.brammo.com/press/BrammoTTRspecs.2009.0511.pdf

Brammo Enertia TTR

not for sale, sadly. 100V 8 kWh lithium polymer pack (not LiFePO4?!). brushless AC motor. 360 lb weight. Marchesini magnesium wheels, Brembo brakes, Dunlop race tires. top speed of "just" 100 mph.

 

[jimmydean]

I WANT...

Man, I can't wait to open a shop! I want to build cool ass crap.

 

[buildyourown]

From Toshi's link:
This seems much more relevant to the consumer.

"Now that it's been confirmed, the initial disbelief has turned into excited anticipation that the long-awaited fully electric Brammo Enertia will finally be available in May, and at 5 selected West Coast Best Buy locations to boot."


Edit: Anybody got numbers on this thing. After a second look, I would buy that thing if it had decent range/price. It would blow the minds of the Harley tools at work.

 

[buildyourown]

I'm also interested in what SAPAs involvement was with this bike. Seeing as they are the primary producer of North American made alum bike frames.
Or maybe it's a different SAPA altogether...

 

[Toshi]

From Toshi's link:
This seems much more relevant to the consumer.

"Now that it's been confirmed, the initial disbelief has turned into excited anticipation that the long-awaited fully electric Brammo Enertia will finally be available in May, and at 5 selected West Coast Best Buy locations to boot."

Edit: Anybody got numbers on this thing. After a second look, I would buy that thing if it had decent range/price. It would blow the minds of the Harley tools at work.

i still owe you a testride on my electric bike. the moving truck comes june 19 so better act quick if you don't want to fly to new york

specs on the Enertia are decent but also somewhat disappointing, reflecting the current state of the (reasonably priced, commercially available) art: http://www.enertiabike.com/content/view/8/8/

$12k initially, i think. should get cheaper eventually. 13 kW, 38 N-m torque. 76.8 V 3.1 kWh LiFePO4 pack. carbon on the initial bespoke models then aluminum chassis. 280 lbs for the carbon version. speed limited to 50 mph iirc, and range about 45 miles...

i initially thought those specs would be entirely adeqaute but since hopping on the scooter i've discovered the utility of true freeway speeds and 100+ mile ranges and am not sure i could step away from those attributes easily. with the bike a limited range is ok since one would be daft to be commuting 20+ miles each way daily (as Secret Squirrel does) just by the nature of the beast. with a motorcylce i'm not so sure the same rules and expectations apply.

 

[Westy]

"once we get it going on vaporized gasoline fumes, we get better efficiency out of the fumes."

Interesting they chose a rotary.Wankles have a great power/liter ratio, are compact, and light, but they are not very efficient and emit higher levels of polluting gases.

I think a Wankle can be much more efficient when designed and ran at a single specific RPM.

 

[IH8Rice]

Toshi, i saw a MP3 around my town today...they look surprisingly small. your pics make it seem like its a lot bigger

 

[Toshi]

Toshi, i saw a MP3 around my town today...they look surprisingly small. your pics make it seem like its a lot bigger

yeah, it's not a tiny 50 but it's not a gold wing, either! keep in mind i'm using "trick lenses": a lot of my shots are either at 12 or 24mm actual focal length (translation: really wide or simply very wide, and wide angles create perspective distortion)

 

[Toshi]

the first Piaggio MP3 Hybrid has reportedly been delivered. customer #1: the prime minister of italy.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/MotoCiclismoR2.nsf/gd/Presentato-il-nuovo-scooter-MP3-hybrid-al-presidente-del-consiglio-Silvio-Berlusconi-1-Presentazione&rurl=translate.google.com



as a refresher: 125cc gas engine + electric bits. claimed 12 mile all-electric range. charge-sustaining, charge-depleting, and EV only modes of operation. probably will be ugly ol' lead acid battery packs taking up all the underseat storage space if the prototype was any indication.

given that the US still doesn't have proper 2009-spec gasoline MP3s (with 14" rear wheels: my nominally 2009 model still has a 12" rear) i'd be surprised if the MP3 Hybrid were available before next spring on these shores.

 

[Toshi]

a tesla owner drives from silicon valley to yosemite and back, recharging along the way at an RV park. shows both the possibilities and limitations of EV technology. on the way out there (uphill) he used 254 Wh/mile. not bad for a 3000 lb automobile going along at freeway speeds, whereas i use 25-35 Wh/mile just for me + a 75 lb electric bike going along at 25 mph...

http://www.teslamotors.com/blog5/?p=68

Bill Arnett is a software engineer who envies Renaissance and Enlightenment thinkers – people who tried to understand a large fraction of all human knowledge. During an attempt to retire and spend more time on hobbies such as photography and astronomy, Bill decided to learn HTML by creating an astronomy site. It became so popular that it generated enough revenue through Google AdSense to pay for his Roadster. Another recent project was an iPhone application that simulates mechanical watches.

Bill, an outdoor enthusiast, appears to be the first person to drive a Roadster in Yosemite National Park. After a May 14 road trip from his home in Silicon Valley in his Roadster, Signature One Hundred No. 55, Bill described his drive through Yosemite as “just about as good as it gets.” Indeed.

When I first heard about Tesla Motors, one of the major factors guiding my decision to purchase a Roadster was the graphic on the Tesla web site showing that it should be possible to get from my home in the Bay Area to Yosemite National Park. In truth, the route winds through the Sierra Nevada foothills and is far longer than the crow flies, getting quite close to the 244 miles per charge estimate from the US Environmental Protection Agency. But taking my Roadster to Yosemite remained an important goal. Here’s how I did it.

 

[Toshi]

MotoCzysz E1pc officially unveiled:

http://www.motoczysz.com/club/?p=258
http://www.motoczysz.com/club/?p=236

In less than 24 hours I leave to go to the biggest race of my life, not because it is the largest, not because it is the fastest but because it will be the first time a MotoCzysz motorcycle will compete in an FIM sanctioned event.

In less than five months we took a suggestion and turned it into a motorcycle. A motorcycle that is unlike anything I have ever ridden. No gas, no oil, no clutch, no need to even warm up the engine- no engine. Gone is the age old ritual of rhythmical throttle blips that can audible seduce a motorcyclist into a pre ride trance- now your bike waits for you. Enter what may be the next big thing in motorcycles; invisible, nearly silent and magically linear power.

June 12, 2009, on the Isle of Man, will be the worlds first zero emissions (electric) Grand Prix, the TTXGP. With teams from around the world ascending on the Isle, this is a true international competition and even though the machines are futuristic the race is not and the premise even less so- this is an old fashion &#8216;run what you brung&#8217; race. Never would my Grand Father or even my Father imagined such a motorcycle would ever exist, even I would have doubted this event possible in 2009 only a few years ago.

MotoCzysz will be on the Island Friday, tech the E1pc &#8216;D1g1tal Superbike&#8217; on Saturday, practice Monday, Wednesday and Friday- Mark Miller will ride a race my father and I (and I hope my sons too) will never forget- a race that will forever be MotoCzysz&#8217;s first and a race that may be the worlds first view of &#8216;next generation&#8217; motorcycles.

I hope we do not disappoint-

MC

oh, and yes, that is an iPhone as the dashboard.

 

[IH8Rice]

they finally get to compete in a FIM race that theyve been desperately trying to do for years....too bad their fancy gas engine wont be the one competing

 

[woodsguy]

Was this mentioned here? I'd buy one.

 

[Toshi]

that's a nice looking velomobile. but $9k USD. really? it's awfully hard to justify that kind of money for something pedal powered yet without a roof.

 

[CBJ]

that's a nice looking velomobile. but $9k USD. really? it's awfully hard to justify that kind of money for something pedal powered yet without a roof.

How about going uphill in Seattle in that thing.