The big S crashes the 10 speed party
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Longing for the day when bikes come spec'd with 1 X 10.....much simpler, ez to maintain, cheaper, cleaner, longer drivetrain life.....still plenty of gearing.
I dig it that shimano isn't that much behind sram in some cases. They should react faster.
on the other thread, I've allowed myself to be convinced that 10sp *could* be better. But I agree with Cant Climb, I would rather see it 1x10 than 3x10. For the riding I do around here anyways. I think that with a 11-36 cogset and a 32 front ring, I wouldn't need a granny. And I haven't used a large ring in over a decade.... no front derailleur? sweet.
I don't really get why Shimano is pushing 3 x 10, even when I had a 44T big chainring I don't think I ever used it on the trails(used to use on the road riding to the trails)..
Yep, that is what I am waiting on as well. As soon as there is a good lightweight, halfway affordable 11-36t cassette, then I am switching.
80% of my riding is on my trailbike, and right now I am running 1x9 with a 34t front with an 11-34t cassette. Its made me stronger pushing that gearing up long climbs, but I would be faster spinning with a couple of more gears. I have no desire to ever go back to multiple rings up front.
11/36 rear would definently cover a range of pedaling for us big bikes.... I barely use the 34 but when I need it its good to have and slap a 36 rear up the front to a 36 again and have a good climbing gear at one end and a faster gear at the other than currntly.
COuld be good if the chains hold up and dont gettoo skinny...
COuld be good if the chains hold up and dont gettoo skinny...
I love the name. Does that kind of marketing work on anyone?
I thought their next new product would be electronic XTR.
I sorta understand thier reasoning for keeping three up front, but I think they missed the boat on this one. Sram (aren't they now the Big S?) has taken the right approach IMO.
The 3X10 is certainly a head-scratcher.
3x is the suck
The think I like about 3x10 is that only one end of my AM bike is outdated now
The assymetrical chain is worth noting. I've got a bad knee and don't look forward to any day there isn't a granny ring on my bike. I've got a 24/36 bash combo coming for my trail bike and that should be all I'll ever need.
Now if I lived out West and had some fire roading to do, I'd be all about some 44 tooth.
Now if I lived out West and had some fire roading to do, I'd be all about some 44 tooth.
Anyone else feel that drivetrain technology has seriously plateaued in the last couple of years? Maybe I'm just getting old and cynical, but a few years ago I used to think there was a genuine benefit in having the latest and greatest. Now it just seems like companies are trying to force the new stuff on us for the sake of it.
Some things that would get me excited about drivetrains again:
1) A shadow SLX rear deraileur with a short cage. Seriously. How hard is this?
2) A reasonably lightweight gearbox, that minimises the number of proprietary components such that parts and spares are relatively easy to perform in the field.
Some things that would get me excited about drivetrains again:
1) A shadow SLX rear deraileur with a short cage. Seriously. How hard is this?
2) A reasonably lightweight gearbox, that minimises the number of proprietary components such that parts and spares are relatively easy to perform in the field.
Shimano's official response...
http://www.dropmachine.com/News/dyna-sys-shimano%92s-next-generation-10-speed-mtb-drivetrain-a613.html
I think I dig 2x10 more...just makes more sense to me.
http://www.dropmachine.com/News/dyna-sys-shimano%92s-next-generation-10-speed-mtb-drivetrain-a613.html
I think I dig 2x10 more...just makes more sense to me.
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It never ends because 11 speed will come,after that 12 speed, then 13 speed blah blah blah.
link no worky... add shimz!
Added a few Moar Shimz, works now.
I am just really disappointed that there isn't a 4 ring front option yet.
3X10- should be named MRR, more redundant ratios.
Yes Shimano hasn't but 4 chainrings has been arround for years.I am just really disappointed that there isn't a 4 ring front option yet.
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i thought there already was an 11-36 nine speed shimano cassette... "29 er specific" as I recall.
Who can be the first with more than 40 speeds?!?!?Yes Shimano hasn't but 4 chainrings has been arround for years.
44 speed is possible- lets see it!
Well, you know what they say, "you learn something new everyday". Never seen that before. I am digging the reflector on the pedal
What is going on w/that crank arm? Looks like there is a custom piece mounted to allow for different pedal placements? Also, a secondary drive train? I am guessing this is a tandem bike.....so, four rings really isn't/hasn't been a standard for Mt. Bikes, right?
That's a tandem. Touring tandems need a huge range of gears.Well, you know what they say, "you learn something new everyday". Never seen that before. I am digging the reflector on the pedal
What is going on w/that crank arm? Looks like there is a custom piece mounted to allow for different pedal placements? Also, a secondary drive train? I am guessing this is a tandem bike.....so, four rings really isn't/hasn't been a standard for Mt. Bikes, right?
The funky cranks are adapters so you kid can be the stoker. They make the cranks super short but allow some adjustment as they grow.
edit - 10sp is F'en lame and I won't waste my money on it.
Same exact thing for me. I recently switched to 1 ring up front on my trail bike and love it. I think a 32 tooth ring up front with an 11-36 in back would be just right.
Rholoff with a BMX chain FTW.
I'm right there with you. I have a 33t with E.13 XCX and 11-34 cassette on my trail bike and it certainly has made me a stronger rider but there have been a few times I wish I had 1 more gear so I could sit and spin rather than sh!tting my lungs out.
I'm embracing 10 speed
I think they missed the boat personally. SRAM made 10spd viable by cutting the granny ring and offering a larger cassette - i.e precise double front shifting and a gear spread that actually makes sense. This doesn't really make any sense to me, you still have to put up with the sh*ttyness of a triple. They could have just made a 9spd 36T cassette and saved themselves the trouble. 3x10 barely exists in the road market it sucks to bad, why would they push it for MTBing?
I agree. When I said I would embrace 10 speed I was talking about Sram's 10s.
And Shimano does make a 11-36t 9s cassette. It came on my 29er, it was something like 430ish grams
It felt like a shot put in my hand. I swapped it out for a 990 and dropped about a quarter lb from the bike.
Why does anybody need an easier granny gear? Grannies, that's who. Sram is still far superior with their 10spd cassette because the cluster of gears is much more precise. I think it is better to have a gear between 8 and 9 rather than have an easier big cog.