[6thElement]

@canadmos just because you asked for it

@Jm_ - for 177 rear hubs, as far as I know there's the OEM formula junk, Hope, Bitex (I think) and if you're feeling rich, Onyx. I decided I wanted to ditch the Formula on our fat bikes after DT Swiss had decided to drop their 177 rear hubs. We've now got 9 bikes with DT hubs, the only outliers that are ridden outdoors are our Smash's with Hydra and my wifes fat bike still on the Formula.

My bike is maxed out with a 4.6" Dunderbeist out back with my 11 speed drivetrain. The chain can sometimes rub the tyre when in the 42T cog out back. I couldn't use this tyre with 12 speed as the big cog would be too far inboard.

 

[Jm_]

Is there still I9? Not that id buy em. Their axles break a lot.

Otso/WT has their own too now, right?

 

[canadmos]

Ah true, didn't even think about chain and tire interference with 177mm. I was thinking the chain stays would limit it, but can see how that can be manufactured around.

I have 4.8 Minions on mine and don't think I'd go any narrower for around here. It's funny watching a few of my friends absolutely struggle and lose their shit on soft snow - their bikes are limited to something like 4.3" or something in the back.

 

[6thElement]

I can't even try to spot the derailleur alignment to the big cog looking from the back as the tyre sticks out too far.

Our bikes came with 4.8 FBF up front and 4.0 FBR out back, didn't work at all for us with the narrow rear. 4.6 Dunderbeist was the largest reported compatible with our frames and there's definitely no more room.

I'd like something better than the FBF up front as it washes sideways a bit too easily on a side slope imo.

 

[Westy]

@canadmos is just big boned

 

[Toshi]

I thought this would be a true fatness thread for I have advice

 

[boostindoubles]

I came here for the cake...

Turns out it was just a tease.


Dammit

Now I want cake.

 

[SkaredShtles]

I propose @canadmos be given the custom title "Tubby."

 

[Toshi]

I propose @canadmos be given the custom title "Tubby."

how can you post in this thread without your usual “fat is a feminist issue” or whatever that quote is

 

[canadmos]

What can I say, I have built in insulation for phatbike riding.

 

[6thElement]

how can you post in this thread without your usual “fat is a feminist issue” or whatever that quote is

It's just an issue for the elastic in his joggers to contain.

 

[6thElement]

Hey @canadmos you still looking for a cheap Pro 4?

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3539052/

Could sell the MS driver, pick up an HG and swap your current endcaps?

 

[Jm_]

Hey @canadmos you still looking for a cheap Pro 4?

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3539052/

Could sell the MS driver, pick up an HG and swap your current endcaps?

Threres a bunch of fatsnos rears around for like $150. Getting matching F and R colors seems tricky tho.

 

[canadmos]

Hey @canadmos you still looking for a cheap Pro 4?

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3539052/

Could sell the MS driver, pick up an HG and swap your current endcaps?

Not a bad price.

I'd send them an offer if I didn't have the one from Hope, with the HG freehub already on it.

Man $150US to Canadian pesos is freaking $200.

 

[kidwoo]

dammit I thought this was going to be thread about canadamos recipes

 

[slimshady]

I thought @Toshi would chime in with intermitent fasting recommendations (?)

 

[6thElement]

dammit I thought this was going to be thread about canadamos recipes

It could be.
He just won't share anything about the cake.

 

[canadmos]

I don't think the cake was ever found, so the recipe will forever be a mystery. Sorry chaps.

 

[6thElement]

Got an alert for a DT 177 hub on ebay overnight. Sold by the time I got to it this morning

 

[Westy]

dammit I thought this was going to be thread about canadamos recipes

Maple glazed, thank me later.

 

[canadmos]

On the fart bike topic, I have had a pair of these pants for a bit now:

https://www.amazon.ca/ROCKBROS-Cycling-Thermal-Windproof-Running/dp/B07WD2D648/ref=sr_1_6?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtsCgBhDEARIsAE7RYh2fFLyOHZVXLpsLwsKHEzjQA5wYzY4qWMEE_db0dOiZT-DqUSrNfWIaAl71EALw_wcB&hvadid=221414813233&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000795&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=6715791672020964479&hvtargid=kwd-380250863643&hydadcr=12438_9600332&keywords=rockbros+cycling+pants&qid=1678798992&sr=8-6

Pros:
-cheap
-warm
-comfortable
-ankles fit tight around boots
-large zippered pockets

Cons:
-draw string waste band and no zipper fly. who in their right might would do this?? Clearly not someone who has ridden in actual cold weather, with gloves and has needed to take a piss.
-stretchy material on the backside is perhaps a little too stretchy - i've had it get caught on my seat (though I purchased pants 1 or 2 sizes too big)
-zippers pull up. i'd rather them pull down, easier to do up and i feel like they are less likely to unzip themselves that way


Overall not bad for some cheap pants. They probably won't get you through the Iditarod.

 

[Jm_]

Basically copies of the Craft pants that 98% of people wear here.

 

[canadmos]

I need to open the hub on this new fat bike and see whats going on.

The last few rides, I've heard one or two popping sounds coming from the hub. It feels like the same thing that happened to the other hubs that failed. It seems to only happen if I pedal out of a corner, so with the bike leaned over a bit - but it only happens once or twice over the spread of a ride.

Hopefully it just needs to be cleaned out or something.

 

[Jm_]

I have that a bit too, but I figure its my shitty e13 cassette. Doesnt do it when Im running Xdome it seems.

 

[canadmos]

This is just a bog standard HG freehub with a 9 speed cassette on it (probably not 1 piece).

When it happened with the old bike, with that Hope hub, it started infrequently and then got worse and worse - before it eventually snapped one last time and left me walking out of the forest.

I was hoping that would go away, after moving to this new frame with full through axle and whatnot. So fingers crossed when I open it up.

 

[Jozz]

This is just a bog standard HG freehub with a 9 speed cassette on it (probably not 1 piece).

When it happened with the old bike, with that Hope hub, it started infrequently and then got worse and worse - before it eventually snapped one last time and left me walking out of the forest.

I was hoping that would go away, after moving to this new frame with full through axle and whatnot. So fingers crossed when I open it up.

Naw, it will blow up. Trust me.

 

[canadmos]

Got two ridenow TPU tubes, to get rid of a little weight on the red rocket.

Jesus Murphy, @FlipSide how'd you keep the air valve straight on these? Wrestled with one twice now, but the stem or tube keeps cocking to one side... Luckily these tires pretty much fall off the rims, so don't need to risk using a lever.

 

[FlipSide]

Got two ridenow TPU tubes, to get rid of a little weight on the red rocket.

Jesus Murphy, @FlipSide how'd you keep the air valve straight on these? Wrestled with one twice now, but the stem or tube keeps cocking to one side... Luckily these tires pretty much fall off the rims, so don't need to risk using a lever.

No idea, I never used them. All my tires are setup tubeless.

I was a bit reluctant to setting up the fatbike tubeless after hearing horror stories about fat tubeless. I guess the Mulefut 80 and Dillinger 5 are working particularly well together...because setting them up tubeless was as uneventful as it can possibly get.

 

[canadmos]

Oh dang who got those then? Perhaps I confused you with @konifere . Derp.

Stupid question...what kind of rim tape is required for single wall rims with huge windows?

 

[FlipSide]

I don't know. Mine came pre-taped from the factory.

There is some kind of a fabric rim tape to cover the holes and some transparent tubeless rim tape on top. That seemed totally adequate for tubeless, so I went for it. My concern was more the tire-bead interface, so I didn't inspect the rim tape that much.

The rest of the bike was not as well prepared as the rim. Except for the BB and crankset, ALL the bike had been assembled bone dry. Headset, axles, water bottle and rack screws...none of them had grease. I had to strip it down completely and go over everything. I didn't mind it that much, as I love wrenching on bikes, but I was surprised to see how carelessly it was assembled from the factory.

There was also some leftover bladder or other stuff stuck in the tube-in-tube routing for the dropper that has been quite a PITA to deal with.

 

[canadmos]

Ah so the canvas stuff over the rim holes and then tape over that? I also read about these last night: https://fattystripper.com/

But going to try these light tubes first. The less invested in this bike, the better.

What fat bike do you have?

 

[FlipSide]

What fat bike do you have?

RM Blizzard C30, upgraded with a OneUp V3 dropper, Dillinger 5 studded tires and other stuff I had at home (G2 RSC brakes, Renthal stem, etc).

Super nice fat bike. I can't wait to try it.

 

[canadmos]

Fancy!

I hope the snow holds off a little while longer......

Is your foot/leg all healed up?

 

[Jozz]

I hope the snow holds off a little while longer......

 

[6thElement]

No idea, I never used them. All my tires are setup tubeless.

I was a bit reluctant to setting up the fatbike tubeless after hearing horror stories about fat tubeless. I guess the Mulefut 80 and Dillinger 5 are working particularly well together...because setting them up tubeless was as uneventful as it can possibly get.

Wife and I also both have v1 mulefuts, currently shod with D5's. With the SR rim strip and tape I've never had any trouble with tubeless; maxxis, 45nrth before these current D5's.

edit: careful with too much sideways pressure on those valve stems. I've never used tpu, but everything I've read says the valve stem is the weak point.

 

[Jozz]

Wife and I also both have v1 mulefuts, currently shod with D5's. With the SR rim strip and tape I've never had any trouble with tubeless; maxxis, 45nrth before these current D5's.

edit: careful with too much sideways pressure on those valve stems. I've never used tpu, but everything I've read says the valve stem is the weak point.

Mulefut are really good at tubeless.
Couldn't keep air on the same tires with Surly rims.

 

[FlipSide]

Fancy!

I hope the snow holds off a little while longer......

Is your foot/leg all healed up?

The fracture is now mostly healed and I am walking on it without problem, but I am learning to walk again. It's going well, but the whole ankle articulation is still quite stiff from the months of immobilization, with maybe ~40% of the mobility it should have. I expect to be quite OK in a month or so, but I am not there yet. Thanks!

 

[Jozz]

Beast is out of estivation.

I might try to get the rear tire tubeless again. It's kinda old and stretchy. Might not be tight enough to hold the goo.

Need to service rear hub and try to guesstimate when it will implode.

 

[6thElement]

Beast is out of estivation.

I might try to get the rear tire tubeless again. It's kinda old and stretchy. Might not be tight enough to hold the goo.

Need to service rear hub and try to guesstimate when it will implode.

View attachment 222324

I started the process on ours a few weeks ago. Scraped one dried fried egg out of my wife's front tyre as it was flat. Then ran out of orange seal subzero to do the other three tyres.

 

[Jozz]

I started the process on ours a few weeks ago. Scraped one dried fried egg out of my wife's front tyre as it was flat. Then ran out of orange seal subzero to do the other three tyres.

I should get moar sealant