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I am not a big car-go-fast guy but my understanding is that the track management adjudicates these times. I may be wrong.
Hyundai reveals new hydrogen car it plans to mass-produce from next year | Hydrogen Insight
‘We are dedicated to pioneering a future where hydrogen is used by everyone, in everything and everywhere,’ says CEO
It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, probably depends if things like this work out.
Hyundai reveals new hydrogen car it plans to mass-produce from next year | Hydrogen Insight
‘We are dedicated to pioneering a future where hydrogen is used by everyone, in everything and everywhere,’ says CEOwww.hydrogeninsight.com
It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, probably depends if things like this work out.
Real World Hydrogen Refueling Stations With Electrolysis Far Less Efficient Than Assumed - CleanTechnica
Every report that uses accepted efficiencies for hydrogen in their workups for cost of of energy per kilometer traveled should be assumed to be wrong.
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Of all the ideas, hydrogen is one of the dumbest, for the amount of infrastructure it requires, the amount of energy it takes to produce, store and transport, and the extremely shit performance/range you get from it. It has to be cooled way way down or under insane pressure to get useful energy density, both of which take energy, add weight, etc. While there's something to be said for certain things that need more than batteries can produce...this really isn't it. LNG or even just being able to narrow ICE down to a few necessary areas until batteries can do the rest or some other clean source, but hydrogen is about the dumbest of all of them. Toyota was "developing it" for years due to grants from the Japanese government, only half-assing the tech and development, with no real plans to scale it up and offer more than what the technology supports.
There are three immediate issues with that analysis just from a quick scan.Real World Hydrogen Refueling Stations With Electrolysis Far Less Efficient Than Assumed - CleanTechnica
Every report that uses accepted efficiencies for hydrogen in their workups for cost of of energy per kilometer traveled should be assumed to be wrong.
1) The ‘produce on site’ model is dumb, you don’t ship crude to a gas station and crack it locally. Similarly H2 should be made at scale, and indeed that’s what the DOE is aiming for, and that’s what we’re doing in NZ and I believe in Japan for the most part. I believe the DOE is proposing large scale plants and low pressure piped distribution (for example) around the LA basin.
2) His use of LHV as a stand in for fuel cell efficiency is lame and stupid. Almost as if he wants to make the analysis have a poor outcome.
3) His figures for electrolysis efficiency are wrong. You can get electrolysis well into the high 80s these days. Secondly we’ll be using PEM rather than Alkaline for sure in any serious situation.
Fundamentally, with 2021 tech, across the value chain H2 was already 16% more efficient than gasoline. The issue is scale. Gasoline has the scale, and the capex is already spent, the wars have been fought, the wells have been drilled. Hydrogen doesn’t have this. People get very hung up on that.
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This will not be in the USA, maybe a few pilot program vehicles will be sold in California. Seoul has an ok H2 infrastructure, that is where these will be on the roads. I went to the Hyundai R&D center in Seoul in 2018 and they had a lot of Nexo's on the road. What is interesting is that in 2018 they were committed a lot more to hydrogen than they were EV's.Hyundai reveals new hydrogen car it plans to mass-produce from next year | Hydrogen Insight
‘We are dedicated to pioneering a future where hydrogen is used by everyone, in everything and everywhere,’ says CEO
It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, probably depends if things like this work out.
My g/f got an Audi etron suv, which I took this morning as my car has the snow tires on already and she has to drive into the mountains today. What a cloud of a car. None of the golf-cart feel driving of other electric cars I've tried. Super nice. I still think having a gas vehicle + an electric is the move, once they get a bit longer range as standard I'd be in one of these in a heartbeat. 
cool. which one? (Q4 or OG e-tron +/- sportback silliness)My g/f got an Audi etron suv, which I took this morning as my car has the snow tires on already and she has to drive into the mountains today. What a cloud of a car. None of the golf-cart feel driving of other electric cars I've tried. Super nice. I still think having a gas vehicle + an electric is the move, once they get a bit longer range as standard I'd be in one of these in a heartbeat.
Just out of curiosity... how much them fokkers cost?
I really liked the Porsche and the wife has said we will replace her CR-V with an electric something. My buddy went all in on Tesla with a Model S and X, both Performance versions. He's road tripped to Disneyland in both cars so far.My g/f got an Audi etron suv, which I took this morning as my car has the snow tires on already and she has to drive into the mountains today. What a cloud of a car. None of the golf-cart feel driving of other electric cars I've tried. Super nice. I still think having a gas vehicle + an electric is the move, once they get a bit longer range as standard I'd be in one of these in a heartbeat.
Q8 is $75k or so?
She got a Q8 etron quattro, fuggin' loaded. 2024 Certified, so 10k miles, extended warranty and about $55k. SUPER bougie, it's gorgeous. I'm not the biggest fan of everything being digital, but that's the future I guess. If you're looking for me I'll be outside shaking my fist at a cloud.
etron... never cease to amuse me.
why is that?
Well, end of an era. Middle kid was coming home from Bozeman to surprise his mum for her birthday... made it as far as Billings when the transmission threw in the towel.
So our 1997 Outback will go into the Great Wide Open. RIP old car. Wife bought it brand new when she was 22yo and it had 25 miles on the odometer.
So our 1997 Outback will go into the Great Wide Open. RIP old car. Wife bought it brand new when she was 22yo and it had 25 miles on the odometer.
if I had changed the oil in my 93 Passat wagon GLX more often I would still br driving it...
Are you going to trickle down one of yours and get a brand new shinning etron?
Probably gonna sell the Xterra to the kid, but Etron unlikely. So some trickling is anticipated.
Our tv ads about this car are either not mentioning the name or overly using an English accent.oh I can't wait to share this with her.
So their fuel bill is going from bad to terrible with the Xterra.Probably gonna sell the Xterra to the kid, but Etron unlikely. So some trickling is anticipated.
I vote for just finding some little poop emoji's and sticking them on the car
Yeah - but the deal he'll be getting will buy a LOT of gas.
How many miles on the dead Outback?Yeah - but the deal he'll be getting will buy a LOT of gas.
Not if automatic. The ex wife's (91 with VR6) car are 3 of those before my folks threw in the towel and gave her Mom's Camry.
his gas cost probably will far exceed my Busy Forks lease costYeah - but the deal he'll be getting will buy a LOT of gas.
This reminds me of the MR2, which apparently didn't sell well in France. Said aloud, it sounds like "Merdeux" which translates to shitty.
as long as it has that baseball stitched brown leather interior they used to do in those motherfuckers...
As I learned the hard way. It was a damn nice car when new, but it didn't hold up.
While yes, of course do want, I cannot understand why Toyobaru doesn’t throw the WRX turbo motor into the GR86. What a great car that would be. That and a turbo crosstrek would be tight
While I'm not a boxer fan (2 piece block, really?), the STi motor is damn solid.