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that thing looks pretty cool. it sounds quick with the turbo four and exactly as advertised. the price is right too, 36k for a turbo awd mini pickup?!View attachment 163382It’s View attachment 163383
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My dream is a small non x4 pickup, bench front seat no rear seat and EV (no long range required) or the other option is get an old one (you can find them in Denmark) but I just have no interest in messing with the required maintenance on an old car.What 98% of the truck driving population should probably have, or the Ford Maverick or the Honda Ridgeline.
Ford did make a Ranger EV along those lines in the early 90s.My dream is a small non x4 pickup, bench front seat no rear seat and EV (no long range required) or the other option is get an old one (you can find them in Denmark) but I just have no interest in messing with the required maintenance on an old car.
Thanks for the info. I was referring to the dumping pressure as you put it. I still look forward to our all/mostly electric future.All turbo cars do it, it's not to keep the wastegate spooled up, it's to dump excess pressure. The rally cars that keep the turbos spooled up sound like backfiring constantly. The thing about the wastegate is most cars come with heavy factory silencing so you never hear it. Remove intake silencing and all of a sudden it becomes pretty evident. "Upgrade" to an aftermarket wastegate and it's often even louder. The aftermarket (loudest) wastegate is usually only needed when you run a much bigger turbo, to hold in the pressure/move against it. But again, the purpose is the opposite of "keeping the turbo spooled up".
My WRX made the dumping noise, pretty audibly, after I switched to a subaru SPT short-ram intake. Lots of people in that community though thought you had to get an aftermarket BOV to "make the noise". Whether it's FI or NA, pretty much all cars have a great deal of intake silencing to cut down on noise. The FI cars, whether turbo or supercharged, tend to have more noise when this silencing is removed (than the NA cars) due to these spinning mechanical things attached to the induction air. If you try hard, you can often still hear this noise on well-silenced stuff like BMWs. It's just way way less prevalent. Also, most modern systems don't dump the pressure overboard anymore, but recirculate it back into the intake, (recirc valve), so you really got to go out of your way in the modern cars to make them "loud". As in that guy probably did it just for that purpose, nothing else. Those kind of mods do annoy me, as they don't do anything for performance. 98% of "intakes" don't either, the ECU simply doesn't let the car just "make more power" because you put on an intake or K&N or whatever. It just removes the stock silencing, car makes more noise, people assume more noise=moar power.Thanks for the info. I was referring to the dumping pressure as you put it. I still look forward to our all/mostly electric future.
Are you sure that is the waste gate sound and not this obnoxious trend of popping exhaust sounds?Grown turbo-driving sport mode men in town: please explain the point of waste gate farting to keep your turbos spooled up as you go from stop sign to stop sign in a 30km/h zone. In case you’re wondering, that cute girl/guy on the sidewalk is not impressed.
I for one can’t wait for the all-electric future. Been saying this for 20 years.
It’s all of the above, but yes. Popping when you let of the accelerator at 30km/h to coast to the stop sign.Are you sure that is the waste gate sound and not this obnoxious trend of popping exhaust sounds?
I'm a car nerd and love some good sounding cars, but god damn that crap sounds so bad.
My WRX made the dumping noise, pretty audibly, after I switched to a subaru SPT short-ram intake. Lots of people in that community though thought you had to get an aftermarket BOV to "make the noise". Whether it's FI or NA, pretty much all cars have a great deal of intake silencing to cut down on noise. The FI cars, whether turbo or supercharged, tend to have more noise when this silencing is removed (than the NA cars) due to these spinning mechanical things attached to the induction air. If you try hard, you can often still hear this noise on well-silenced stuff like BMWs. It's just way way less prevalent. Also, most modern systems don't dump the pressure overboard anymore, but recirculate it back into the intake, (recirc valve), so you really got to go out of your way in the modern cars to make them "loud". As in that guy probably did it just for that purpose, nothing else. Those kind of mods do annoy me, as they don't do anything for performance. 98% of "intakes" don't either, the ECU simply doesn't let the car just "make more power" because you put on an intake or K&N or whatever. It just removes the stock silencing, car makes more noise, people assume more noise=moar power.
Minor correction, but not all turbo vehicles do it. Variable geometry turbo equipped vehicles don't require a wastegates.All turbo cars do it, it's not to keep the wastegate spooled up, it's to dump excess pressure. The rally cars that keep the turbos spooled up sound like backfiring constantly. The thing about the wastegate is most cars come with heavy factory silencing so you never hear it. Remove intake silencing and all of a sudden it becomes pretty evident. "Upgrade" to an aftermarket wastegate and it's often even louder. The aftermarket (loudest) wastegate is usually only needed when you run a much bigger turbo, to hold in the pressure/move against it. But again, the purpose is the opposite of "keeping the turbo spooled up".
Yeah. There are a few, relatively new/limited tech, but I know at least Porsche is doing it.Minor correction, but not all turbo vehicles do it. Variable geometry turbo equipped vehicles don't require a wastegates.
lotta stuff going on. @dump I think it's people trying to look cool. There are people who think that sounds cool and makes their car faster, or both. nothing you can do other than to hurry up with the EV revolution
My guess is most will not modify their EV sounds.Then people with EVs will modify their Pulse Width Modulation frequencies to make obnoxious noises.
One of the many reasons why I hate Siemens is that they run their servo motors at 8K Hz and the whine is fucking irritating.
My guess is most will not modify their EV sounds.
No doubt, so long as it’s not coming from the manufacturer.A certain percentage of the population will always go out of their way to annoy others.
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Supply chain.Just leaked that MB will stop delivery of all 2022 V8 models into the US. This includes vehicles already paid for/ordered - they will be refunded. Rumored primarily due to supply shortages but also meeting regulatory limitations.
Because it is electric?A quiet vehicle is an efficient vehicle.
Noise is loss.Because it is electric?
That theory doesn't really check out for IC engines.
Yes that GT looks really good.The new Kia electric car has to be one of the least ugly ones out there, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds too!
The first time I saw one was in Korea.Jesus H Christ, hopefully that will never leave the States!
Where were you in Korea?The first time I saw one was in Korea.
That makes sense, I hope they don't make it to Australia.The first time I saw one was in Korea.
At the Hyundai/Kia R&D center outside of Seoul.Where were you in Korea?
I would give good money for someone to make my Leaf sound like a Tie Fighter.My guess is most will not modify their EV sounds.
Ergonomics. As much as I hate to admit it, SUV and crew-cab-trucks are far more ergonomic to get in and out of than even the best car. For anyone with mobility issues, such as someone older, this also comes into the fray. Visibility is generally better as well. It used to be there was a huge mileage discrepancy, since our 4-runner was usually in mid-teens for MPG, but now "crossovers" retain a lot of the ground clearance and ergonomic benefit without the huge hit in mileage and efficiency. For sure, there's probably something about short people wanting to be higher. It pisses me off every time I get into a vehicle previously driven by someone else (not even someone smaller) and the seat is jacked up all the way and the mirrors are turned into the body so they aren't functioning correctly. People are lazy and for the most part they just want the vehicle to take them from place to place.Saw a Hyundai Ioniq 5 for the first time today, bit meh to be honest. Looks like an overinflated compact.
Won‘t somebody build me a boring electric wagon ffs? I don’t know of a single one, all the while everyone is cranking out one electric crossover after another, preferably Coupé shaped. VW ID7 is only a rumor so far, but I’d gladly take a GTX version if they bring one to market in the next two years.
Ford did address this directly, noting an h-point 4" higher in the Five Hundred as compared to its predecessor (and successor-via-renaming) Taurus.Ergonomics. As much as I hate to admit it, SUV and crew-cab-trucks are far more ergonomic to get in and out of than even the best car.
When someone complains about low sports-cars or visibility on sports-car forums I post this picture. The car they are really asking for. The best ergonomics.Ford did address this directly, noting an h-point 4" higher in the Five Hundred as compared to its predecessor (and successor-via-renaming) Taurus.
Unless someone is paying to be fast no point in low h-points, imo.
When someone complains about low sports-cars or visibility on sports-car forums I post this picture. The car they are really asking for. The best ergonomics.
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