When someone complains about low sports-cars or visibility on sports-car forums I post this picture. The car they are really asking for. The best ergonomics.
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And it's cousin,
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Yes, please.
When someone complains about low sports-cars or visibility on sports-car forums I post this picture. The car they are really asking for. The best ergonomics.
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And it's cousin,
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I hate people looking in my car while I'm driving.I actually want a car with the biggest greenhouse. But I'm odd.
I want the opposite of your Camaro, basically.
I can't find the link now besides my own reference to it, but there was a glorious line diagram from ~1991 showing the angles of what was visibility from the driver seat in a rhd Prelude. Back when manufacturers apparently cared about such things.
I actually want a car with the biggest greenhouse. But I'm odd.
I want the opposite of your Camaro, basically.
I can't find the link now besides my own reference to it, but there was a glorious line diagram from ~1991 showing the angles of what was visibility from the driver seat in a rhd Prelude. Back when manufacturers apparently cared about such things.
I would give good money for someone to make my Leaf sound like a Tie Fighter.
the vw iD makes a george jetson type noise i think...atleast that is what my older brother thought it sounds like...I actually thought about making something like this. So many cars are now playing canned engine noises inside cars I thought why would I want to hear fake 4 cylinder sounds inside my car. Why not be able to pick your fake engine noises. I want F1 V12 sounds when in sport mode, Scooty Puff Jr in eco mode.
Really just need a throttle and RPM input. Perhaps a good winter Raspberry Pi project.
I think there are a few that allow you to select the noise. My stinger definitely plays the fake noise. And again, most people think more noise=more power.I actually thought about making something like this. So many cars are now playing canned engine noises inside cars I thought why would I want to hear fake 4 cylinder sounds inside my car. Why not be able to pick your fake engine noises. I want F1 V12 sounds when in sport mode, Scooty Puff Jr in eco mode.
Really just need a throttle and RPM input. Perhaps a good winter Raspberry Pi project.
This is part of why I chose my Land Cruiser.Then manufacturers were told to care about side impact collisions. Certainly cars like the Camaro is was used as a styling cue but ultimately belt lines were raised so you would better survive an accident possibly caused by not being able to see out of the car.
Not going fast enough, obviously.I’ve been horned twice in two weeks while driving the speed limit in town. Was on a main streets both times… turned right and the car tailgating behind me blared the horn as it continued straight.
Car enthusiasts, please explain.
Did I hear comes? Or was that just wind?I think there are a few that allow you to select the noise. My stinger definitely plays the fake noise. And again, most people think more noise=more power.
Ultimately I think it's a good idea. The worst thing ever is the dumbass exhausts on trucks that are loud all the time, like on startup, idle, 20mph, 40mph, 60mph, etc. No one wants to hear that. It's just dumb when you aren't pushing the car. The next best thing is the valve-operated exhaust, like I have on the Camaro. Interestingly, that car does not have piped-in sound from the audio system, it has piped-in sound from an actual tube that runs from the intake to the cabin. I deleted mine though and later production years have done the same thing now standard. It really doesn't do anything and when you are pushing the car, you definitely hear the engine.
Wind noise screws with it, but we go windows-down most of the time for visibility of cones. Not so much due to the belt-line, but it encourages you to look left and right more, which helps a lot with planning.
Get your speedometer checked, our Beetle's off by ~10%.I’ve been horned twice in two weeks while driving the speed limit in town. Was on a main streets both times… turned right and the car tailgating behind me blared the horn as it continued straight.
Car enthusiasts, please explain.
So here's what I do, if I'm coming home on my last mile stretch where the limit is 25, or I'm going to one of our parks with trails where the access road is all 25, and someone comes up on my ass, I just stick my hand out the window and wave them around. I don't care if it's a double yellow line or around a turn...I just wave them around.I’ve been horned twice in two weeks while driving the speed limit in town. Was on a main streets both times… turned right and the car tailgating behind me blared the horn as it continued straight.
Car enthusiasts, please explain.
Ha! Nice.So here's what I do, if I'm coming home on my last mile stretch where the limit is 25, or I'm going to one of our parks with trails where the access road is all 25, and someone comes up on my ass, I just stick my hand out the window and wave them around. I don't care if it's a double yellow line or around a turn...I just wave them around.
It's also pretty hilarious to think about how dipshit this looks from outside, someone trying to go fast around a car that could whip them in an instant out on any kind of track...
solid thinking....So here's what I do, if I'm coming home on my last mile stretch where the limit is 25, or I'm going to one of our parks with trails where the access road is all 25, and someone comes up on my ass, I just stick my hand out the window and wave them around. I don't care if it's a double yellow line or around a turn...I just wave them around.
just put your middle finger to your lips and blow them a kiss...I’ve been horned twice in two weeks while driving the speed limit in town. Was on a main streets both times… turned right and the car tailgating behind me blared the horn as it continued straight.
Car enthusiasts, please explain.
But isn't that due to advances in engine efficiency which would have an even greater impact with lower drag? With EVs, efficiency is even more important and there is hardly any proper hatchback as most of these crossovers go for a tear drop shape to bring down drag, which significantly reduces the cargo space I need.It used to be there was a huge mileage discrepancy, since our 4-runner was usually in mid-teens for MPG, but now "crossovers" retain a lot of the ground clearance and ergonomic benefit without the huge hit in mileage and efficiency.
No, because the Cd is no longer *that* different where it matters. Not everyone is buying the biggest suv, the crossovers aren’t nearly as much of a brick.But isn't that due to advances in engine efficiency which would have an even greater impact with lower drag? With EVs, efficiency is even more important and there is hardly any proper hatchback as most of these crossovers go for a tear drop shape to bring down drag, which significantly reduces the cargo space I need.
I get the ergonomics argument and I would not begrudge anyone for making this part of their decision. But when interior space and car size are considered as well, I find crossovers and SUV hard to justify, or in the case of EVs, a bad compromise between space and efficiency/range. The ID4 is less extreme here than the Mach E and Model 3, but it would be nice to have to option of a lower car with more space and range at the expense of some comfort.
For instance, if we stay in the (gas powered) VW universe, if I wanted the same interior space as my Passat I would need a Touareq, which is substantially larger and weighs half a ton more. At least in Europe that's a major deal. (Pic is from the last gen, but you get the idea).
Cd * frontal area is what mattersNo, because the Cd is no longer *that* different where it matters. Not everyone is buying the biggest suv, the crossovers aren’t nearly as much of a brick.
Special impatient asshats.Ha! Nice.
In both cases I was on a busy city street. I suppose some folks are just special.
Yeah, but go back to my point above, the CUV/crossover things aren't really any more frontal area than a regular "car". Aerodynamics and other aspects have improved significantly with under-body paneling, airflow around the wheels, etc. Plus, most people living in cities where highway mileage is just not as important?Cd * frontal area is what matters
but given that fuel costs at our gas tax rates/lack of carbon tax are so little of the total cost of ownership it makes sense that cars are unpopular
hmmthe CUV/crossover things aren't really any more frontal area than a regular "car".
So what is that, an Atlas vs a Jetta? Why not a tiguan vs. a jetta or more like-sized vehicles?
I'd like to see the coefficient of drag numbers between them.So what is that, an Atlas vs a Jetta? Why not a tiguan vs. a jetta or more like-sized vehicles?
That's unique in the world of ergonomics. Old people can't do things like bend very far well and getting up and out of a car is especially challenging. Bravo to her, but that doesn't sound like the reality for a lot of people. I'm enjoying certain cars now, but I can always tell with my body that it won't last forever. Ever see an old person get up out of a low chair?Anyway, buy smaller cars. If you’re so out of shape you can’t even get in and out of a car, you should do something about that! My neighbour is 87 with arthritis (and recently stopped driving due to eyesight, good on her) but could get in and out of her Mitsi Sedan just fine.
Touareq vs Passat since they have comparable interior space and the Passat was my baseline. Tiguan would be comparable with a Golf Variant.So what is that, an Atlas vs a Jetta? Why not a tiguan vs. a jetta or more like-sized vehicles?
Here I am thinking old people did fine before there were SUVs.That's unique in the world of ergonomics. Old people can't do things like bend very far well and getting up and out of a car is especially challenging. Bravo to her, but that doesn't sound like the reality for a lot of people. I'm enjoying certain cars now, but I can always tell with my body that it won't last forever. Ever see an old person get up out of a low chair?
I do have a bit of a problem with the idea that a person's convenience/effort of getting into and out of a car would possibly be rated above the environmental impact of actually driving the car. Even if it's really hard, you can still get in the car. 1.5x the environmental impact just so you spare yourself a few seconds of mild discomfort...That's pretty fucking selfish shit right there...That's unique in the world of ergonomics. Old people can't do things like bend very far well and getting up and out of a car is especially challenging. Bravo to her, but that doesn't sound like the reality for a lot of people. I'm enjoying certain cars now, but I can always tell with my body that it won't last forever. Ever see an old person get up out of a low chair?
It's not grandma buying giant SUV's and trucks. Specious argument is specious.Here I am thinking old people did fine before there were SUVs.
400-HP 2023 Nissan Z Puts the Toyota Supra on Notice
Nissan's new Z features an enticing combination of a twin-turbo V-6 engine, a six-speed manual, and a $40,000 base price.www.caranddriver.com
6 speed manual, you say?
Here I am thinking old people did fine before there were SUVs.
Hard to get excited by any conventional sports cars these days. The styling on that thing is pretty rough too.400-HP 2023 Nissan Z Puts the Toyota Supra on Notice
Nissan's new Z features an enticing combination of a twin-turbo V-6 engine, a six-speed manual, and a $40,000 base price.www.caranddriver.com
Damn, that just might be my future ride. 6sp manual400-HP 2023 Nissan Z Puts the Toyota Supra on Notice
Nissan's new Z features an enticing combination of a twin-turbo V-6 engine, a six-speed manual, and a $40,000 base price.www.caranddriver.com
6 speed manual, you say?
I do have a bit of a problem with the idea that a person's convenience/effort of getting into and out of a car would possibly be rated above the environmental impact of actually driving the car. Even if it's really hard, you can still get in the car. 1.5x the environmental impact just so you spare yourself a few seconds of mild discomfort...That's pretty fucking selfish shit right there...