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There was one floating around here for a long time, but I haven't seen it in quite some time. Hope something didn't happen to it.
I could have traded you.
This seems crazy?! I thought EVs were supposed to require less service, not moar?!Chargers everywhere, which means we have to redo pretty much all of our electric to handle the load, a Ioniq specific indoor delivery module, $49,000 Ioniq5 showroom kit that is a joke and then we have to pay to have it installed.
They are also making us increase our service department from 5 service bays to 20 service bays.
is it planned obsolescence?!
Car dealers, boo hoo!Chargers everywhere, which means we have to redo pretty much all of our electric to handle the load, a Ioniq specific indoor delivery module, $49,000 Ioniq5 showroom kit that is a joke and then we have to pay to have it installed.
They are also making us increase our service department from 5 service bays to 20 service bays.
Hyundai should probably focus on the actual customer experience rather than the appearance of the dealership. Their dealerships are bad, like really, really bad. I've been in to 3 different Hyundai dealers and don't believe I'll ever set foot in one again, doesn't matter if the cars were free, I'd probably avoid them. I know multiple people who actually bought Hyundais and none have had a single positive thing to say about the experience, even by car buying standards they've been terrible experiences. It's too bad because they seem to finally be making a pretty decent, cost competitive product, but consistently rank as the worst dealerships to do business with. That's what corporate should be focusing on, a fancy delivery module isn't what the brand needs.Chargers everywhere, which means we have to redo pretty much all of our electric to handle the load, a Ioniq specific indoor delivery module, $49,000 Ioniq5 showroom kit that is a joke and then we have to pay to have it installed.
They are also making us increase our service department from 5 service bays to 20 service bays.
2.5 years with my leaf, absolutely zero maintenance. It's amazing.This seems crazy?! I thought EVs were supposed to require less service, not moar?!
is it planned obsolescence?!
Found an outfit on tiktok that resells leaf batteries and drive units, tempted to make an electric buggy.
chassis would run me about 1k
Batteries, motors and controllers would be about 2100
About the same cost to build a gas block without the drivetrain.
A friend of mine is doing this with a seven series type car and Leaf running gear.
Also, me also next to zero maintenance on my leaf; new tyres and new windscreen wipers is all.
Lots of parts and components for them, users must crash the fuck out of them
Customer service falls on the dealership/franchise owner not Hyundai. Hyundai has a pretty good process that they want their dealers to follow, unfortunately many dealers do not adhere to the process.
I can't speak for them all, but I will say that handling in the snow and ice is abysmal.
That's where the corporate smackdown comes in, unless they don't care, which Hyundai doesn't seem to. If they're controlling dealership's operations down to the number of service bays and electronic displays, but not enforcing their customer service expectations, then those "rules" clearly aren't rules. Back before it went to shit the comment section on any of Jalopnik's car buying stories were about 50% bad Hyundai experiences, no way the corporate people are unaware of the reputation.
Yeah, I don't think Hyundai/Kia are that much worse than the "average", but the average bar is so damn low. Dealers basically trying to cheat you at every corner, whether it be in sales, finance, repair, etc. It's just out of control at some dealers and it's one if the big reasons brands like Tesla keep gaining ground. There's always the oddball idiot on auto forums that claims they like "negotiating" for a new car, but everyone else is just tired of the bullshit and we want corporate to own the damn name on the side of the building, in the sense that they enforce standards and make these places operate like reputable businesses. The dealer model, protected by law, is simply out of date. You need a certain amount of dealers to service cars...but by the same token you don't need 5 dealerships within 10 miles all selling the same goddamn stuff, that is hugely redundant and makes no actual sense. The "hands off" approach by the automakers is driving their names into the ground and people are seeking better experiences...which companies like Tesla generally deliver.
I had to get corporate involved just to get my oil changed a few weeks ago. I tried a few months and it was "we don't have those oil filters, no one has those oil filters"...Well, they were supposed to get some in and call me, but no one ever did, so I called corporate and put in a ticket. First thing heard back from the dealership was the same thing. My car was at the harsh-conditions oil change interval. I told the corporate customer service person I had a hard time believing there were no oil filters at all in country and they were unable to change the oil of any cars. I pressed the issue and low and behold, the dealer had just "gotten some in" a little while before. The fact that I needed to escalate that was mind-blowing. I know there have been supply issues, but
I had to get corporate involved just to get my oil changed a few weeks ago. I tried a few months and it was "we don't have those oil filters, no one has those oil filters"...Well, they were supposed to get some in and call me, but no one ever did, so I called corporate and put in a ticket. First thing heard back from the dealership was the same thing. My car was at the harsh-conditions oil change interval. I told the corporate customer service person I had a hard time believing there were no oil filters at all in country and they were unable to change the oil of any cars. I pressed the issue and low and behold, the dealer had just "gotten some in" a little while before. The fact that I needed to escalate that was mind-blowing. I know there have been supply issues, but
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There is no corporate smack down with auto makers. Car manufacturers are exactly that, manufacturers. Their goal is to produce automobiles and a lot of them and dump them on the dealer’s lots. They jam pack the dealers lots with cars and make it the dealer’s problem to pay for them and sell them.
They can control how many service bays and how big your showroom is by pulling your dealer agreement/franchise. They also entice the dealer with paying for a percentage of the improvements/upgrades. They also encourage dealers with volume bonuses if the dealerships are up to their standards.
The shitty customer experience again is coming from the actual dealer. I don’t care what brand you are looking at. They all have shitty dealers and a lot of them. Some say this will change but it is going to take a long time. We are a small family owned group of dealerships. Full disclosure, zero pressure and no games. I love customers that come from the competition. We frequently have customers openly tell us they pay more to buy from us because there is no bill shit.
I will never buy a Volvo in the us not only because of the poor reliability of the car i owned, but mostly because the horrible, terrible, inexcusable behavior of all major dealerships i visited in greater Boston. Fuck them all, smug assholes.
This was my experience at every single RV/Camper dealer I went to for my last 2 purchases.
shitlords! all of em/me
"On February 15th, 2022 at approximately 1630 hours the Vermont State Police received a report of a partially submerged vehicle through the ice in Mississquoi Bay near the Canadian Border in Lake Champlain. The vehicle, identified as a Black Jeep Gladiator is nearly submerged with a flat-bed trailer still attached. No one is believed to be inside the vehicle at this time. If anyone has any information regarding the vehicle and the operator they are asked to contact the Vermont State Police St. Albans Barracks at 802-524-5993. More to follow as the investigation continues."
Man says Carvana sold him stolen, damaged car - NewsBreak
I have had a handful of people buy cars from me with horror stories from carvana, vroom and carmax. This is one of the first times I've seen the bad stories hit the national level.
I have had a handful of people buy cars from me with horror stories from carvana, vroom and carmax. This is one of the first times I've seen the bad stories hit the national level.
Curious to see how it didnt show on the Carfax
I hope you are not serious? CARFAX is a joke.
How so? Proved good results for me anyways
I think the fact that every car Carvana sells has a free CARFAX is enough to prove that their reports can have some major flaws.
They also report odometer rollbacks for dumb reasons, report accidents when there is no accident, show no accidents when the car was in an accident, show multiple owners when a registration is updated.....
They also report odometer rollbacks for dumb reasons, report accidents when there is no accident, show no accidents when the car was in an accident, show multiple owners when a registration is updated.....
Cargo Ship Full of Porsches, Bentleys and VWs Is On Fire and Adrift in the Atlantic [UPDATED]
The Felicity Ace’s crew has been rescued, but the fate of the vehicles on board is unknown.
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At least it's not useful vehicles.Cargo Ship Full of Porsches, Bentleys and VWs Is On Fire and Adrift in the Atlantic [UPDATED]
The Felicity Ace’s crew has been rescued, but the fate of the vehicles on board is unknown.
probably just ID4s catching fire, as is tradition
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Carfax is a forprofit company and not some government mandated reporting agency so it's pretty apparent it'll have flaws. And yeah if something doesn't get reported, carfax obviously won't know about it.
But I'd say it's at very least a good tool, but not the Bible. I wouldn't buy a car solely based on it's report.
You could find a car with a legitimately clean carfax report and it still be a piece of shit.
trolling changleen. It's only teslas and bolts that spontaneous combust anyways
If liking this makes me a Karen, then someone get me a manager immediately
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New York Is Now Using Cameras With Microphones to Ticket Loud Cars
Own a loud car in New York City? You might receive a notice in the mail from a computer.
www.roadandtrack.com
A few years ago a large piece of construction equipment broke loose on one of those ships and apparently bounced around like a pin ball in heavy seas basically destroying everything on that floor of the ship.Cargo Ship Full of Porsches, Bentleys and VWs Is On Fire and Adrift in the Atlantic [UPDATED]
The Felicity Ace’s crew has been rescued, but the fate of the vehicles on board is unknown.
A cargo ship packed with thousands of Volkswagen Group vehicles is on fire in the Atlantic Ocean
Your new Porsche, Audi, or Volkswagen vehicle could be stranded in the Atlantic thanks to a nautical mishap.
www.businessinsider.com
Noise pollution is real and has real very real health ramifications.If liking this makes me a Karen, then someone get me a manager immediately
New York Is Now Using Cameras With Microphones to Ticket Loud Cars
Own a loud car in New York City? You might receive a notice in the mail from a computer.