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Buying a 190,000-Mile E39 BMW M5 Was Either a Fantastic or Terrible Idea
I absolutely love it and am absolutely in over my head.
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Oh you spent $20k on it? Good luck. Budget $10k for service.@stoney
Buying a 190,000-Mile E39 BMW M5 Was Either a Fantastic or Terrible Idea
I absolutely love it and am absolutely in over my head.
For how much would you buy the same car again?
Not that one! I’d lease another Alfa. I was just never confident they were going to stay in the marketFor how much would you buy the same car again?
I forgot for a second that you no manual, so no loss.
Ha, the engine and transmission in that car were phenomenal. I love me a manual transmission, but that was a car that didn't need one. I will try really hard to make sure my next car has a ZF 8HP gearbox (unless it's electric/hybrid). It was everything else that let it down...I forgot for a second that you no manual, so no loss.
That comes down to the individual mfr tuning IMO. I had a zF8 in my BMW and it was great, predictive, etc., but I’ve driven the same transmission in a Chrysler and it was horrible.
V6 or V8? I test drove the 300s v6 and agree, it was bad...but it was also built by chrysler rather than ZF. Apparently the ones that come behind the V8 are made by ZF (8HP vs. 8HF or something) and it felt that way when I test drove a chaaaaaaaaarger
I’m still in the hunt for something but can’t decide. Lately I really like the porche panamera gts. But it’s pricey. Maybe I should just get a 911, but I have kids and do a 1000 mile drive each way once a month so I want something comfy.
Stinger, Panamera and Sportback because hatchback. I think the stinger is the 2nd best looking out of those. 4 series GC doesn’t count because it got hit with ugly stick and MB is also absent.
Drove by a van much like this today. Van Ladder (brand) bucket, apparently just bolted to the roof rails. Single rear wheel standard van.
This setup does not inspire confidence as compared to the usual utility bed/crane and bucket mounted to the chassis/dual rear wheel setup.
Looks like it can un-ditch itself if you jimmydean it though.
Drove by a van much like this today. Van Ladder (brand) bucket, apparently just bolted to the roof rails. Single rear wheel standard van.
This setup does not inspire confidence as compared to the usual utility bed/crane and bucket mounted to the chassis/dual rear wheel setup.
How do you make an OG NSX betterer? Make it into a Lambo
1999 Replica/Kit Makes Lamborghini Diablo GT | eBay
Next, I do NOT call this a kit car. It’s an Acura NSX modified to look and feel like a Lamborghini Diablo GT (which there are only 83 of in the world). The NSX is a Super Car in itself. There is nothing kit about this car.
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The eVette is a go and boomers are losing their minds. 
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Electric Chevrolet Corvette Is Officially Happening
The company also says it's working on a hybrid Corvette that'll come as early as next year, featuring all-wheel drive.
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I’m going to go against Monkey code here and make an actual legitimate suggestion, Range Rover.
Yes reliability can be questionable, but they rarely leave owners stranded, you’ll just have to live without your seat massager or power assisted sun shades. Having driven damn near every luxury car imaginable, the full size Range Rover is just the best. I doubt long term ownership costs will be much different than a Panamera either, and the only thing I’ve experienced that would even come close to it on a 1000 mile trip is a Gulfstream.
I thought about Land Rover, but I think they are ugly. Guess I’ll need to have another look. Part of me can’t accept a luxury suv. SUV’s are supposed to be for utility purposes. I suppose I need a car and a suv.
Looks wise, they’re a box with a smaller box for the hood area. However the only good looking luxury cars on the market right now are the S class and the S8, so at least they’re in good company with the other uggos. Actually, basically nothing looks good anymore, so by comparison Rovers offerings are solid lookers IMO, no predator grills, floating D pillars, not a BMW, just bland boxes.
At some point you just have to accept that, when it comes to luxury, more space is better. Rovers are still some of the better off-roaders in factory spec, assuming you stay away from the 22s anyway. So the utility is there if you want it, and when you’re just cruising the highway you’ve got a ton of space and if you spec it out right the kids get their own refrigerator in the back seat.
Do they have suspension that raises when you select 4WD?
I always have a giggle to myself at how low the exhaust hangs when I'm behind one, it looks idiotic on a supposed off roader.
I also like seeing the poor people that buy them so they can look gangsta AF, they bounce and rattle their way along the road as all the money has gone in to some sick wheels instead of maintenance.
At that price, why not look electric? Since Tesla gets so many barf reactions, what about the Lucid Air? or the Porsche whatever it is...
The Taycan Cross Turismo is just about perfect. I can't justify it yet, but not far from it. Get the Turbo S without the ceramic brakes.
my problem is the 1000 mile each way drive I do. Also there are no lucid show rooms or service centers near me. Other than that they are pretty sweet
why you no like carbon brakes? Also I like the panamera wagon with the v8.
Granted, the lack of showroom and service centers is a big problem, but aren't you is SoCal? They can't be that far away can they?
at 1000 miles, you're looking at a minimum of 3 "refuelling" stops, but probably 4, or even 5 is more realistic. That doesn't sound like it would be prohibitive... the more you stop, the faster the charging, so it could wind up taking less time overall. Is 5 stops on a 2000mile round trip really a problem?
from what I gather, brakes don't get used much on EVs, especially in day to day driving conditions. presumably the upcharge isn't worth it on an EV?
1. You can't get them up to temp street driving.
B. They are like $25k to replace every 10k miles
4. Looks flexy?
They are pointless on any street car, gas or EV for the same reasons. I get pretty stupid in my car with eBay drilled rotors and great pads in stock calipers.
<edit> taking @HAB down 219 in his M3 I don't think we went over 70mph, but we were hauling ass. My brakes were fine.
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What about a Cayenne e-hybrid? Good mix of several worlds from what I can tell. You can run it as an EV around town, full gas when you run out of juice, or both for best performance. In other words, some of the benefits of an EV without the range anxiety or charging hassles on longer trips.
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Given how heavy an EV is, is it really valid that they “don’t work” during “normal driving”? I hear people say this, but I can’t see Porsche specing something that doesn’t work, plus a big complaint of the model S plaid is that it doesn’t have enough braking.
It isn't that they won't work, they will stop just fine. The point of ceramic is for abuse and high temps where they don't fade like a carbon steel rotor. But on the street you aren't going to be hitting track speeds without putting your license in extreme risk. And even then you still aren't hitting track like temps to really notice fade. But they wear out and need replacement more often regardless of driving habits.
I remember a similar thing with the alfa giuliadryfus. The carbon brakes were gucci but for street driving, they needed heat to work correctly and the danger of goofing them up was too real for street drivers. Better to stick with steel for a non-track car where heat is low and you aren't repeatedly braking for hours on end.
but is there really a person on RM considering a 216k$ electric vehicle? what are you doing talking to us plebs?
Jay Leno loves to tell the story of how the McLaren dealer wouldn't let him get the carbon brakes on the P1 because he wasn't going to track it. "What dealer talks you out of spending $25k for an upgrade on a car?"
The guy at the porche dealer told me he talked people into the carbon brakes. As a person who raced his buddy all over town in a wind star with no rear seats against his v6 mustang. These two vehicles were quite equally matched, and we ran hard until our brakes were smoking and he lightly impacted the wind star at an intersection. Good times. Anyways it took a lot of work to smoke the brakes. I had figured they weren’t worth the cost.
Im in Oregon now. I need to drive to so cal once a month. I like to drive and hate flying that’s why I don’t fly. It seems it would be a pain to stop driving to charge a car. It does add to the drive time which I think 14.5 hrs is my best so far.