The Case of the Missing Airbus

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  1. drkenan

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    So...an Airbus goes down over the Atlantic with 228 people on board and they find the debris in the middle of the ocean. But then today the Brazilian government announces that the debris was from something else. :shocked:

    I don't know anything about aviation but did they fly thru the Bermuda Triangle or something? This is pretty crazy. I definitely feel sorry for the family members involved.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/06/world/europe/06plane.html?em
     
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    Only one possible explaination.

     
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    Who else watches Lost?
     
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    Maybe it's the real-life version of LOST.

    Edit: dammit, got beat to it.
     
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    Um...

    Perhaps it's just the conspiracy theorist in me, but are we not being told the whole story all of a sudden?
     
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    A Spanish pilot did report seeing an "intense flash" in the area about the same time. Tinfoil hat time...

    I have the feeling that we don't know the whole story either.
     
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    Agreed. How does one mistake a wooden pallet, for any aircraft structure. They weren't crossing the Atlantic in the Spruce Goose. Something stinks.
     
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    Meh, there's lots of data from both mainland resources and from data acquired from the aircraft that some pretty crazy weather was going down and that the cloud tops reached 50,000ft.
     
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    That is what they want you to think man.
     
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    Brazil?



    Ok, I'll put a hat on :biggrin:
     
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    Yeah but that was just the air hostess paying the cockpit a mid flight wake up visit senor. ;)
     
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    Huffington post reports floaters have been found in the water. What a crappy way to go :eek:
     
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    PARIS—After more than two weeks of analyzing flight records, cockpit radio transmissions, and floating ocean debris, investigators determined Thursday that the tragic events of Air France Flight 447 were in all likelihood caused by a "giant plane crash."
    The shocking discovery, announced during a press conference Friday, finally sheds light on what took place in the early hours of June 1, and answers a number of puzzling questions about the mysterious mid-flight disaster.
    "We can now say, with complete confidence, that Air France Flight 447 was brought down by an unscheduled and unforeseen plane crash," lead French investigator Michel Villon stated. "Indeed, a survey of all the evidence indicates that this terrible tragedy was the direct result of a large airliner falling suddenly from the sky, dropping 30,000 feet, and colliding with the Atlantic Ocean at extremely high speeds."
    "This is devastating news, to say the least," Villon continued. "Hopefully our findings here will help bring some closure to the families most affected by this horrible event."
    French and Brazilian authorities said their first hint that the tragedy was caused by a plane crash came last week, when divers recovered several large metal fragments from Air France Flight 447 that were not fused together in one solid mass, as is typical of a functioning aircraft. The fragments were then analyzed and found not to be airborne or otherwise soaring intact across the sky. The final clue, they said, was that certain key features of the crash site in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean seemed to be consistent with a huge commercial airliner having crashed there.
    The discovery of deceased Flight 447 passengers further supported the so-called "plane crash" theory, as investigators claimed these men and women would most likely have already arrived in Paris had the Airbus jet not gone down.
    While the aircraft's black box has yet to be recovered, officials speculated that the simple fact that they are currently searching for it corroborates their theory of a plane crash.
    "It took us a long time to figure out exactly what led to this unspeakable event," said Brazilian aviation expert Federico Lobão, who spent countless hours carefully studying footage of the wreckage. "Never could we have imagined that something like a plane crash could be behind such a catastrophic plane crash."
    Lobão is lead author of a 450-page report that cites a projectile of steel suddenly spiraling downward with incredible force as the main cause of the Air France tragedy. With his team's findings, a number of competing theories have been put to rest. Among them: that the disaster was triggered by a pack of wolves let loose aboard the aircraft; that all 228 people aboard died instantly from heart disease, natural causes, or possibly some form of diabetes; terrorism; that something went terribly wrong during a standard layover 3,000 feet below sea level; terrorism again; and pilot error.
    According to the FAA, plane crashes are responsible for nearly 98 percent of all mid-flight catastrophes and an estimated 100 percent of all aircraft-related deaths. In response to these frightening statistics, airline officials have announced they will be instituting a number of preventive measures in hopes of avoiding future accidents. So far, these include requiring pilots to keep an aircraft up in the air at all times following takeoff, and not allowing an airliner carrying hundreds of travelers to plummet rapidly into the ground.
    "We are currently doing everything we can to stop any unnecessary collisions with the ground from taking place during our flights,” Air France CEO Pierre Sturges said. “While we work to figure out this whole not-crashing-planes-and-killing-passengers thing, people should keep in mind that the chances of their flight crashing are almost incalculably small and incredibly unlikely."
    "Unless, of course, it does,” he added
     
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    I could have sworn gravity was the main cuase of most airplane crashes.
     
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    Son of a bitch....... Wonder if the thing still works. How many PSI 13000 feet under water?
    Story continues here.

     
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    No. Way!

    I can't believe they found it. That's crazy bidnizz right there.
     
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    Guess it was a big cover up after all!
     
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    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-16/air-france-crash-data-audio-retrieved-from-black-boxes.html
     
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    A cascading series of events? Damn you National Geographic Channel.
    Edit- it was of course a "critical chain of events". My bad.
     
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    LOL....
    You mean there was an intense flash in the middle of a thunderstorm? Who woulda thought!!
     
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    Hopefully most, if not all, lost consciousness if they decended that fast and there was a rapid decompresssion.
     
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    that's only about 125 mph
    stall/flat spin?
    assuming loss of compression is nearly instantaneous, would not loss of consciousness also happen almost instantaneously? if you can get a head rush standing up, this would appear to inflict the passenger about as quickly, but w/o the recovery. can't really valsalva your way out of that
     
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    Stall. According to one article I read, lots of them, or one really long one. 125 mph isn't fast if you assume the airplane is traveling in a fwd facing direction. 11000 ft per minute is a very rapid change in altitude however, especially for a passenger aircraft. To me this says the aircraft fell out of the sky, no "flying" was happening during the last 3 minutes these people were alive. It does not seem, according to what I've read, that the aircraft broke up before impact. I would assume no loss of cabin pressure. :(
     
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    i was really hoping to find some way to think they didn't suffer for more than a second or 2, but that does not appear to be the case.
     
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    If (big IF), there was a loss of cabin pressure at FL380 LOC would have been almost instantaneous.

    Isn't the valsalva for clearing your eustation tubes (ears) not maintaining adequate O2'd blood to the noggin?? anyway..........
     
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    I'm sure that was a horrible 3 minutes, but I think I'd prefer that (instant death by massive blunt force trauma) to drowning or burning to death........but that's just me.........
     
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    That sucks :-( why don't they have backup gps speed? Too high to work? Too inaccurate?
    RIP all.