Bummer mang. I agree with JBP though. Cars can be replaced. People are a little tougher.
the death of my WRX
- Thread starter Toshi
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ouch! 
sorry to hear about your car. but the most important thing is that the both of you are ok. if other cars were spinning in the same spot then i think you have a valid argument for court.
but maybe you shouldn't watch tokyo drift as much anymore...
sorry to hear about your car. but the most important thing is that the both of you are ok. if other cars were spinning in the same spot then i think you have a valid argument for court.but maybe you shouldn't watch tokyo drift as much anymore...
My point exactly I got stopped at a road check and before I had the window halfway down the 5-0 barks " Are you a novice driver"? yes..
then wheres your "N" magnet?
the rules hre are if your a novice driver you have to have a green magnetic "N" on your car.
problem is this wasn't my car..its a company cargo van
so insted of risking my magnet getting stolen I made a "N" out of green electical tape. well that wasnt good enough.
"you can get an "N" for free from the driving office he tells me"
Problem: the driving office is open from 9:00 to 5:00 I work 8-5
also many people steal these magnets off the back of cars. so you can use a sticky clear envlope provided with the magnet and stick it to the inside of your back window.. cargo vans don't have back windows. but he says I cna stick the envolpe to the back of the van on the outside. I can't stick somthing to the back of a company van I don't own it...
but no he lets everyone over 30 go through....
feck
it depends on the price set whether i'll buy it back. if i do so and part it out i'll definitely crosspost the for sale thread to RM. already have the vultures circling on NASIOC...
you might try putting the engine on the vwvortex. someone may want it for their vanagonalready have the vultures circling on NASIOC...
i might want the whole thing for the right price and condition... after all, toshi is near a major port. shipping wouldnt be an issue.
chalk up one more vulture here. a condor to be geographically correct
chalk up one more vulture here. a condor to be geographically correct
Terrible, but I'm sure you'll get out of the ticket considering the fact that everyone can't have been driving too fast for the conditions. Did anybody successfully navigate that corner while you were there??
As for the car, do buy it back - it's usually worth it with the upgrades you made. Though make sure it's towed to a respectable place (if you have any input in the matter) to prevent all-too-common aftermarket theft. If it's not totalled though, I would go with some of what Alexis said, though skip the '04+ front end, the bugeye rules. BUGEYES RULE!!!
I have done exactly the same thing in more dramatic fashion, with fewer consequences. I fishtailed to the L, back to the R, back to the L, and baaaack to the R into the curb, tagging a tree, ruining two wheels and one tire, and my rear quarter panel, and ripped the bumper clean off. I have since learned how to properly counter-steer in massive-sliding situations with my Impreza (thought not WRX). I'm not calling you a novice driver by any means, but it is all part of a learning experience. Counter-steer just as much as you need to and no more; in your case, just enough to keep you from going straight into the R guardrail. But enough consultation
Your insurance will deem it an at-fault accident even if you don't get a ticket for it. They're not going to blame the road for it, even if it was raining. It was pouring when it happened to me, and I didn't get a ticket, was able to drive home, but still got screwed on rates after that.
Cool car though. If you decide to part it out, I'd be interested in your rear swaybar and possibly exhaust. Not much else can be used on my car, though I might be interested in the seats too, depending on the price. I freaking hate mine.
As for the car, do buy it back - it's usually worth it with the upgrades you made. Though make sure it's towed to a respectable place (if you have any input in the matter) to prevent all-too-common aftermarket theft. If it's not totalled though, I would go with some of what Alexis said, though skip the '04+ front end, the bugeye rules. BUGEYES RULE!!!
I have done exactly the same thing in more dramatic fashion, with fewer consequences. I fishtailed to the L, back to the R, back to the L, and baaaack to the R into the curb, tagging a tree, ruining two wheels and one tire, and my rear quarter panel, and ripped the bumper clean off. I have since learned how to properly counter-steer in massive-sliding situations with my Impreza (thought not WRX). I'm not calling you a novice driver by any means, but it is all part of a learning experience. Counter-steer just as much as you need to and no more; in your case, just enough to keep you from going straight into the R guardrail. But enough consultation
Your insurance will deem it an at-fault accident even if you don't get a ticket for it. They're not going to blame the road for it, even if it was raining. It was pouring when it happened to me, and I didn't get a ticket, was able to drive home, but still got screwed on rates after that.
Cool car though. If you decide to part it out, I'd be interested in your rear swaybar and possibly exhaust. Not much else can be used on my car, though I might be interested in the seats too, depending on the price. I freaking hate mine.
That was you? We heard about that wreck today on the traffic radio. 
Dude, so glad you and your passanger are okay.
That really really sucks about your car. The roads were horrible today for sure, I don't think anything you could have done would have saved you. We were driving home from Lynnwood (south bound), in a downpour, around 10a and saw some car flipped over on it side north bound on I-5 all by it's self. It must have just happened because it wasn't there 45 minutes earlier when were we headed that direction.
Thank goodness you walked away and for insurance.
Dude, so glad you and your passanger are okay. That really really sucks about your car. The roads were horrible today for sure, I don't think anything you could have done would have saved you. We were driving home from Lynnwood (south bound), in a downpour, around 10a and saw some car flipped over on it side north bound on I-5 all by it's self. It must have just happened because it wasn't there 45 minutes earlier when were we headed that direction.
Thank goodness you walked away and for insurance.
I'm not ripping on you at all Toshi, don't worry.
The funny thing about drivers almost everywhere is that they forget that they can't drive the same in the rain, and so you see a lot of wrecks with a first rain or snow. The first rain though is especially bad because it floats all the residual oil up from being imbedded in the road, and makes for an extra-slick surface, moreso than just rain itself. But the flipside of the coin is all the people that drive 20 under when the rain starts to come down. It's a never ending battle, and I'm glad I don't live in Seattle, and have to put up with it! I have encountered this all across the country though. No matter how much rain or snow you get in whatever amounts and frequency, people still do a poor job of adapting properly to the situation. What kills me though is the people that consistently drive well under the SL just because it's raining, even if we haven't seen sunny skies for 3 weeks. Those people get passed
The funny thing about drivers almost everywhere is that they forget that they can't drive the same in the rain, and so you see a lot of wrecks with a first rain or snow. The first rain though is especially bad because it floats all the residual oil up from being imbedded in the road, and makes for an extra-slick surface, moreso than just rain itself. But the flipside of the coin is all the people that drive 20 under when the rain starts to come down. It's a never ending battle, and I'm glad I don't live in Seattle, and have to put up with it! I have encountered this all across the country though. No matter how much rain or snow you get in whatever amounts and frequency, people still do a poor job of adapting properly to the situation. What kills me though is the people that consistently drive well under the SL just because it's raining, even if we haven't seen sunny skies for 3 weeks. Those people get passed
Amy, it might not have been me even tho it probably was given the car carnage: the tally keeps on rising, but my current count from other autocrossers who were headed each way on 16 at various times in the day is that there were at least 11 spins on that stretch today.
i personally witnessed 5 other spins, and 1 more had just spun before me according to the tow truck driver that pulled her away.
in addition, during the tow truck ride back up north we saw at least 10 (probably more like 15) cars on the side of the road, all rear enders. a couple of them looked like pretty vicious chain reactions, with 5+ cars all with damage lined up like ducks...
sanjuro, i fully agree, and indeed i plan to make the most of this situation.
kanter, that's not in the cards. i've decided to stay away from high powered street cars, not because they're big, bad, and scary, but because they have little place in my world. as it is i'm being given (thanks, mom and dad) an old(er) ford expedition, which i'll tool around in this winter. come spring the insurance mess should be all cleared up, and i might get something old and cheap that seats two...?
i personally witnessed 5 other spins, and 1 more had just spun before me according to the tow truck driver that pulled her away.
in addition, during the tow truck ride back up north we saw at least 10 (probably more like 15) cars on the side of the road, all rear enders. a couple of them looked like pretty vicious chain reactions, with 5+ cars all with damage lined up like ducks...
sanjuro, i fully agree, and indeed i plan to make the most of this situation.
kanter, that's not in the cards. i've decided to stay away from high powered street cars, not because they're big, bad, and scary, but because they have little place in my world. as it is i'm being given (thanks, mom and dad) an old(er) ford expedition, which i'll tool around in this winter. come spring the insurance mess should be all cleared up, and i might get something old and cheap that seats two...?
Glad to here nobody was hurt.
Not to be a dick, but the ticket will stick.
Lets face it, if you weren't going "too fast for conditions", you wouldn't have crashed.
What kind of tires were on your car?
Not to be a dick, but the ticket will stick.
Lets face it, if you weren't going "too fast for conditions", you wouldn't have crashed.
What kind of tires were on your car?
Nokian WR tires, lots of tread.
if all the other drivers who spun (and at least two of the ones i witnessed also were towed away) received the same ticket as i did then i'll roll over and play nicely. but if i got the ticket and they didn't then i'm fighting it to the bitter end as that's discrimination in my mind.
if all the other drivers who spun (and at least two of the ones i witnessed also were towed away) received the same ticket as i did then i'll roll over and play nicely. but if i got the ticket and they didn't then i'm fighting it to the bitter end as that's discrimination in my mind.
That totally blows... I had a similar situation about 10 years ago. And not only did I get a ticket, but I got sued. (Of course it happened in vermont....I was served abut a week before the statue of limitations would have expired. Totally bogus.)
But yep....that sucks huge.
But yep....that sucks huge.
Dude! It'sa 3:30 am....what are you...Luc?thanks for the implied sympathy, mmike
That wasn't so much at Vermont thing as a US/Canada thing. I was only in VT for the day.
Insurance companies are weird about what they total. They did total the car after my accident in VT. (If I can dig up a pic, I'll post it). But they DID total my integra when it was stolen and stripped. It almost always surprises me to hear what an insurance co. will deem to be the less expensive option for them.
And yes...there is sympathy in there! It's killing me to not throw in some snide comment about how you've become a "Seattle driver" already! (But I won't kick you when you're down.....
heh, i know how to merge therefore am not a true seattle driver.
i'm up late since i can't sleep, since i can't get this whole mess out of my head. tried to do as much as i could given that it is, er, was, sunday (for instance, booking a train [!] ticket home to pick up the expedition), but i am still far too restless to nod off.
i'm up late since i can't sleep, since i can't get this whole mess out of my head. tried to do as much as i could given that it is, er, was, sunday (for instance, booking a train [!] ticket home to pick up the expedition), but i am still far too restless to nod off.
You'd think that people in Seattle would know how to drive in the rain.
Sorry about the carbon mayhem, man.
hehe, somebody emailed me a funny animation....
funny animation. i´d post it here, but its too soon to be a smartass.
i also got a hole punched in my yaris rear bumper a few weeks ago. left my car while buying a pizza, and when i got out, my bumper was all scratched with a 4in dia hole on it.... my car doesnt even have 2800km on the odometer.
damn woman drivers on their suvs. (i knew it was an suv because of the location of the impact, and i know it was statiscally probable it was a woman because it was inside a market where 80% of customers are female, and 70% of suv drivers are female).
Kevin got sideways in the mall parking lot yesterday afternoon. It was a good time
Sorry to hear about the car, but I'm glad you & your passenger were OK.
ouch...just saw this thread now. Sorry about the incidnet..Sad pics to look at, but at least you and your buddy are okay - and ultimately that's the most important thing. Can't believe the cops gave you a tix - that's probably because of the car you were driving – good luck fighting it.
If they don't let you fight the ticket, request exploration, specifically the ticket book from which your ticket was written. If the other individuals received tickets, you're sol, if not the cop needs to explain to the judge why you got a ticket and not the others.
It's super easy to get out of that ticket. If the cop did not have you on radar he has no claim. All you really have to do is tell the judge it's a BS ticket (What's the proof I was going to fast, Everyone else was spinning out to) and he will have it thrown out.
Nah man, that's not going to help. The cop's proof that he was going too fast for the conditions was that he crashed. Many people get tickets at accidents. Toshi's salvation may be in the chance that he was the only person that got a ticket (discrimination), or in the fact that so many people did the same thing that he did, proving there was something unpredictable on the road surface that was not concurrent with the required driving in the present conditions e.g. while he should have been driving slow in the rain (which he was, especially for a AutoX car with good tires), there must have been something else besides the rain that was causing all those people to misjudge the maximum speed, something that he cannot held be accountable for and expected to change his speed accordingly.
What IS statute of limitations on an accident where you're at fault in the US for getting sued?
I don't know that it's a national law, but here in the lone star it's 2 years.
I know in California in the early 90s that it was only 6 months if it involves the sheriff department.
Hmmm...I wonder if that covers suing you after your insurance coverage runs out (=after they've sued the pants off your ins company).
Nothing a little duct tape and bailing wire can't fix.
Glad you are OK.
If it were Grand Turismo I would have powered through the slide.
Man you non-seattle drivers sure can't drive in the rain (I saw your merging comment above
)
Glad you are OK.
If it were Grand Turismo I would have powered through the slide.
Man you non-seattle drivers sure can't drive in the rain (I saw your merging comment above
)
apparently 5 years in VT....the guy got $80k from my insurance co....
does DRB work for your insurance company? maybe that's why he hates you...