There is a deeply held Beltway myth of Paul Ryan, Man of Big Ideas, and it dies hard. But, if there is a just god in the universe, on Thursday night, it died a bloody death, was hurled into a pit, doused with quicklime, buried without ceremony, and the ground above it salted and strewn with garlic so that it never rises again.
Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/paul-ryan-debate-joe-biden-13626962#ixzz2967AaWYk
from the same article:Way to go Joe.
You know what's the difference between Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan?
Lipstick.
12345Bill Maher said:Hello 9-1-1? There s an old man beating a child on my tv.
Because someone lying to your face is respectful.regardless of where you stand politically, I couldn't stand the arrogance displayed by biden and his laughing and rolling of the eyes all night. Show some respect. Even if you think your opponent isn't making much sense.
so what you're saying is its OK to treat blatant stupidity as an equally respected peer?regardless of where you stand politically, I couldn't stand the arrogance displayed by biden and his laughing and rolling of the eyes all night. Show some respect. Even if you think your opponent isn't making much sense.
regardless of where you stand politically, I couldn't stand the arrogance displayed by biden and his laughing and rolling of the eyes all night. Show some respect. Even if you think your opponent isn't making much sense.
Bitches, please. Biden was way more composed and respectful than any Republican pinhead has ever acted towards President Blacky McIslam. Someone looked me in the eye and lied to my face like that in front of god and everyone, they'd be getting a punch in the dick.They both tell lies...all politicians do. Biden acted like an ass.
agreeThey both tell lies...all politicians do. Biden acted like an ass.
It isn't about biden/ryan, it is about the US people, maybe if politicians remembered that we wouldn't be as deeply into the mess we are in?Because someone lying to your face is respectful.
You sound like my mother...They both tell lies...all politicians do.
It's why we don't talk about politics anymore.my mother in a hypothetical conversation said:Oh, you just brought up the fact that a Republican politician in WI said that "some girls rape easy"? Well, look, they're ALL bad, they ALL lie, they ALL just say whatever is necessary to get elected, and they ALL are misquoted. Didn't Obama say that he smoked crack?
I respectfully disagree. The Republican party, especially in the last four years, has become so removed from reality, so willing to spread and in fact, foster, complete lies, mis-representations, and falsehoods so outrageous that the only appropriate response is to point out how ridiculous they have become.I don't care where you stand politically, dem or repub, his behavior was out of line, he should hold his composure and debate the facts or mis-facts at hand with respect to our country, I don't care if he respects the man he is debating.
It drives me crazy that these fact checking organizations try to find balance where there is none. Biden was accurate in his heaven and earth comment. Romney said that and the larger context does not change the meaning of that statement.By the way, anyone equating the lies on each side is obviously not paying attention.
And the dems don't do the same thing?I respectfully disagree. The Republican party, especially in the last four years, has become so removed from reality, so willing to spread and in fact, foster, complete lies, mis-representations, and falsehoods so outrageous that the only appropriate response is to point out how ridiculous they have become.
but the repubs are doing it on a scale never before seen. It's like the moon is made of bullsh*t and they want to colonize it.And the dems don't do the same thing?
Open your eyes man, both sides are doing similar ridiculous things, if you can't see that you are unwilling to look at things with an open mind.
but the repubs are doing it on a scale never before seen. It's like the moon is made of bullsh*t and they want to colonize it.
and the dems aren't?but the repubs are doing it on a scale never before seen. It's like the moon is made of bullsh*t and they want to colonize it.
i'm not saying that the dems aren't full of it, but the 'pubs are on a whooooooole other level.and the dems aren't?
Good lord, open your eyes. Neither party is squeaky clean here, buy a LOOOOOOONG shot.
Who ever said "squeaky clean"? Go back to the link I posted on factcheck.org. Most of Biden's "untruths" were exaggeration or context, most of Ryan's were outright lies:and the dems aren't?
Good lord, open your eyes. Neither party is squeaky clean here, buy a LOOOOOOONG shot.
Delving into each of those shows exactly how much utter bullsh!t Ryan was trying to shovel. But hey, they'll all bad, rightThe Biden-Ryan debate was marked by some spirited claims that didnt always match the facts.
- Ryan said Obamas proposal to let tax rates rise for high-income individuals would tax about 53 percent of small-business income. Wrong. Ryan is counting giant hedge funds and thousands of other multimillion-dollar enterprises as small businesses.
- Biden exaggerated when he said House Republicans cut funding for embassy security by $300 million. The amount approved for fiscal year 2012 was $264 million less than requested, and covers construction and maintenance, not just security.
- Ryan was wrong when he said a rise in the jobless rate in Bidens hometown was how its going all around America. The rate nationally has sunk back to where it was when Obama took office. And in Ryans hometown, its more than 4 percentage points lower that it was at the start of Obamas term.
- Biden seemed to question Ryans assertion that administration officials called Syrian President Bashar Assad a reformer even when he was killing his own civilian countrymen. Ryan was right. Early in the bloody Syrian uprising Hillary Clinton called Assad a different leader who many in Congress believe is a reformer.
- Ryan claimed the Obama administration spent stimulus money on electric cars in Finland. Not true. Although the cars have been assembled in Finland, the money went for work in the United States.
- Biden quoted Romney as saying that he would not move heaven and earth to get Osama bin Laden. What Romney said was that hed go after other terrorists as well.
- Ryan misquoted a Medicare official as saying one out of six hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business as a result of the Affordable Care Act. Not quite. The official said that many could become unprofitable, and the the situation could be monitored to head off bad outcomes.
- Ryan claimed that the ACA contains taxpayer funding of abortion. In fact the law provides no direct funding of abortion except in cases of rape or incest or to save the mothers life. And its a matter of interpretation whether subsidized private insurance would amount to indirect federal support for abortion.
- Ryan was off base when he said of a cost-saving panel created by the Affordable Care Act, not one of them even has to have medical training. Actually, the board must include physicians and other health care professionals among its members.
- Ryan at one point ground out a collection of shopworn misstatements about the health care law that weve had to rebut time and again, claiming 20 million people are projected to lose their health insurance (not true), that premiums have gone up $3,000 (no, they havent) and that 7.4 million seniors are going to lose Medicare Advantage plans (maybe, but theyd still be covered by traditional Medicare).
And both Biden and Ryan continued to twist the facts about Romneys tax plan. Biden again misrepresented the findings of the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, and Ryan repeated a misleading claim that six studies have verified that the plan is mathematically possible.
dayum.Way to go Joe.
Seriously. I recognize that politicians pander, stretch truths and equivilate, but to claim that the rhetoric from both sides this time around is equal proves that you're probably not paying attention.but the repubs are doing it on a scale never before seen. It's like the moon is made of bullsh*t and they want to colonize it.
But he should have! He was absolutely right to be doing it. We all should be doing it. That includes all of us in the media, and not just paid obnoxious-opinion-merchants like me, but so-called "objective" news reporters as well. We should all be rolling our eyes, and scoffing and saying, "Come back when you're serious."
The load of balls that both Romney and Ryan have been pushing out there for this whole election season is simply not intellectually serious. Most of their platform isn't even a real platform, it's a fourth-rate parlor trick designed to paper over the real agenda – cutting taxes even more for super-rich dickheads like Mitt Romney, and getting everyone else to pay the bill.
Turn of your Fox news. Biden gave that little weasel all the respect he deserved.right, because everything biden was saying was truthful and in full disclosure as well? He was laughing at attacks on a us embassy.
I don't care where you stand politically, dem or repub, his behavior was out of line, he should hold his composure and debate the facts or mis-facts at hand with respect to our country, I don't care if he respects the man he is debating.
Right...regardless of where you stand politically, I couldn't stand the arrogance displayed by biden and his laughing and rolling of the eyes all night. Show some respect. Even if you think your opponent isn't making much sense.
Right...
So when a democrat interrupts, huffs, etc. , its being disrepectful...but when a republitard does it, he's praised for standing up for his principles. Gimme a fcuking break. Where was the republican condemnation when Joe Wilson yelled "you lie" during a State of the Union address???
Where a far higher expectation of decorum is present.
Oh right, there wasnt one.
Shut the fcuk up, you republitards, conservatives and closet conservative journalists.