[LordOpie]

I didn't say get rid of markets, money or consumerism. I think all that's wonderful. I did say it would be nice if repubs cared 1/10 as much about the world outside of them.

And as you so perfectly illustrated, you misunderstood my post so you could attempt to say something witty. You're a sad person Nate

 

[Echo]

iraq sucks, but oddly enough, the army/jar heads/squids/airdales i talk to daily who have been there in iraq more often than not, want to go back and fight it out until its done.

Hey genius, the whole f*cking PROBLEM over there is that our military is rife with these MORON jarheads that think their mission is to "fight it out" and get some kind of macho high by saying they want to go over there. Maybe if a few of them UNDERSTOOD THE F*CKING MISSION things would be going a little better. And it's not just their fault, the blame goes right up the chain of command to the Commander In Chief.

 

[$tinkle]

Imagine if the republicans cared just one-tenth for the world as they did about money.

maybe if one-tenth of the world were republican, they would.

besides, how many poor republicans do you know (military & college republicans aside)?

 

[$tinkle]

Maybe if a few of them UNDERSTOOD THE F*CKING MISSION things would be going a little better.

"to do the zionists' bidding" isn't something you just blurt out at a pentagon press briefing

And it's not just their fault, the blame goes right up the chain of command to the Commander In Chief.

what about mad props? assuming you approved, did you send an eCard when they dumped rummy?

 

[kidwoo]

"to do the zionists' bidding" isn't something you just blurt out at a pentagon press briefing

 

[Echo]

"to do the zionists' bidding" isn't something you just blurt out at a pentagon press briefingwhat about mad props?

When you send a hundred thousand or so 19-23 year old kids to a country where 99.9% of the population speaks Arabic (and doesn't speak English), then tell them that pretty much anyone with a turban or a beard is probably setting an IED and needs to be questioned... what did they think was going to happen? I was actually surprised that the Arab world basically gave us the green light to rip Afghanistan a new ass, but anyone with even one partially working brain cell had to be able to see this sh!tstorm brewing as soon as we invaded the second oil state in as many years. And now our enlightened president is rattling his sabers at Iran and Syria. Seriously, is he retarded? What did he think was going to happen?

 

[LordOpie]

And now our enlightened president is rattling his sabers at Iran and Syria. Seriously, is he retarded?

he is retarded, unfortunately, Iran and Syria are more of a threat than Iraq ever was, so despite his fvck-ups, if either of them give a good enough reason, we'll be invading them too

 

[$tinkle]

When you send a hundred thousand or so 19-23 year old kids to a country where 99.9% of the population speaks Arabic (and doesn't speak English), then tell them that pretty much anyone with a turban or a beard is probably setting an IED and needs to be questioned... what did they think was going to happen?

maybe there is a vietnam parallel after all:

I wanted to see exotic vietnam, the jewel of south asia. I wanted to meet interesting people of ancient culture and kill them. I wanted to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill.

I was actually surprised that the Arab world basically gave us the green light to rip Afghanistan a new ass,

we made them an offer they couldn't refuse. we were due our pound of brown flesh

And now our enlightened president is rattling his sabers at Iran and Syria. Seriously, is he retarded?

what - if anything - should be done about the iran/syria problem? if we're lucky, we might get to sit this one out, as it looks like the jews are posturing to hook some brothers up.

 

[blue]

we'll be invading them too

I get the feeling Iran would bitchslap the US Army back to Saudi Arabia...At least in its current condition.

Good fvcking luck with a draft.

 

[$tinkle]

I get the feeling Iran would bitchslap the US Army back to Saudi Arabia...At least in its current condition.

i don't think we'd just wander over to save on gas. everyone forgets we can light 'em up from the gulf. it would be wayyyyy too messy to occupy. we'll just send in some missionaries & starbucks after we soften them up for a few months.

Good fvcking luck with a draft.

as long as there are gaymers, there are volunteers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Army

oh, about your sig, i stumbledUpon this: http://www.infiltration.org/

 

[blue]

oh, about your sig, i stumbledUpon this: http://www.infiltration.org/

Yeah...UER/Infiltration...what about it?

Run by a freaky furry guy.

 

[sanjuro]

N 8, you're absolutely right. The Democratic Congress better fix 4 years of Iraq in 4 days.

BTW, here is the first 4 laws passed by the 106th Congress:

# 2005 February 17 - Class Action Fairness Act of 2005, Pub.L. 109-2, 118 Stat. 4
# 2005 March 21 - Theresa Marie Schiavo's law, Pub.L. 109-3, 119 Stat. 15
# 2005 April 20 - Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act, Pub.L. 109-8, 119 Stat. 23, 11 U.S.C. § 101
# 2005 April 27 - Family Entertainment and Copyright Act, Pub.L. 109-9, 119 Stat. 218, 17 U.S.C. § 101

A law to protect large corporations, the Palm Sunday Compromise, one legitmate law, and something allow Utah video stores to edit raunchy films.

Boy, the new Congress is not living up to the last one....

 

[kidwoo]

besides, how many poor republicans do you know

Missed this the first time around.........

While I don't 'know' them, the neighborhood around our dirtjumps is one of those areas where playing "pick the structure that wasn't brought here on the back of a truck game" is all the rage and back yonder there was a bushy 2004 poster on about every third.

I also had a sticker on my truck that said 'regime change 2004' on it and recieved the middle finger salute from some toothless chick in a pinto with three wheels.........'god support our troops' or whatever nonsense visible on the back when she passed.

Poor republicans are abundant. Not because of military service but because of the belief in the concept. Militias aren't spawned in the hamptons. One of the great ironies of the modern day party. Give'em gawd, give'em a gun and they're all about upper echelon tax cuts.

 

[Silver]

Give'em gawd, give'em a gun and they're all about upper echelon tax cuts.

Americans have this quite delusional belief that they are all going to be rich, some day. Even if it's only in heaven. We may be unique among nations that way...which explains a lot.

 

[blue]

Sig material!

 

[stevew]

Militias aren't spawned in the hamptons.

No, just rich, liberal, white folk.

While they love people of color, they just hate the thought of living around them.

 

[$tinkle]

Yeah...UER/Infiltration...what about it?

Run by a freaky furry guy.

i thought, you know, since you're into hobosex & all...just trying to help...

Poor republicans are abundant.

fair point.
i should have qualified republican as non-wingnuts who contribute (either financially or through activism).

of course, this narrows the field considerably.

 

[ohio]

# 2005 April 20 - Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act, Pub.L. 109-8, 119 Stat. 23, 11 U.S.C. § 101
one legitmate law

Actually this was a total cave to Credit Agencies and in my opinion a horrible abuse. Our bankruptcy leniency is (was) one of the building blocks of our economy's innovation engine and our industrial leadership.

 

[LordOpie]

Actually this was a total cave to Credit Agencies and in my opinion a horrible abuse. Our bankruptcy leniency is (was) one of the building blocks of our economy's innovation engine and our industrial leadership.

no no, it's for "Consumer Protection"... it says so right there!

 

[sanjuro]

Missed this the first time around.........

While I don't 'know' them, the neighborhood around our dirtjumps is one of those areas where playing "pick the structure that wasn't brought here on the back of a truck game" is all the rage and back yonder there was a bushy 2004 poster on about every third.

I also had a sticker on my truck that said 'regime change 2004' on it and recieved the middle finger salute from some toothless chick in a pinto with three wheels.........'god support our troops' or whatever nonsense visible on the back when she passed.

Poor republicans are abundant. Not because of military service but because of the belief in the concept. Militias aren't spawned in the hamptons. One of the great ironies of the modern day party. Give'em gawd, give'em a gun and they're all about upper echelon tax cuts.

Yeah, I think there are 3 types of Republicans:

Taxes
Christians
Patriots/Warhawks.

The last 2 might not be rich.

 

[N8 v2.0]

Thank god the Dim led senate is taking some action on Iraq!!!!

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/nation/01/18/18iraqcongress.html

Nonbinding resolution would say American troop increase in Iraq "is not in the national interest of the United States."

 

[BurlyShirley]

n8, do you feel the current course of action is advisable? If so, why? Or are you just being King Partisan again?

 

[N8 v2.0]

n8, do you feel the current course of action is advisable? If so, why? Or are you just being King Partisan again?

troop build up is needed.

its obvious that we are not going to be leaving anytime soon, so might as well build up the numbers. advance bases in iraq with ground and air support is not a bad idea while iran continues to threaten their neighbors. with a heavy US presence, they can only talk crap not wanting to actually risk taking action.

not to mention the majority of iraqis want us to stay for a while.

 

[fluff]

troop build up is needed.

its obvious that we are not going to be leaving anytime soon, so might as well build up the numbers. advance bases in iraq with ground and air support is not a bad idea while iran continues to threaten their neighbors. with a heavy US presence, they can only talk crap not wanting to actually risk taking action.

not to mention the majority of iraqis want us to stay for a while.

Interesting take on the current situation. What's your source for the statement that most Iraqis want the US to stay?

Funny how Iran is seen as being so aggressive - what's the basis?

 

[stevew]

Yeah, I think there are 3 types of Republicans:

Taxes
Christians
Patriots/Warhawks.

The last 2 might not be rich.

So I take it you represent the homophobe wing of the Democrats?

I was notorious for making gay jokes, but never again. Not that I am less homophobic, but every time I am about to make a joke, I picture a fat hairy dude shoving his ahole in my mouth...

Good for you.

 

[sanjuro]

So I take it you represent the homophobe wing of the Democrats?

So basically it says here you're f*cked up, you sound like a fag, and your sh*t's all retarded.

 

[ohio]

troop build up is needed.

its obvious that we are not going to be leaving anytime soon, so might as well build up the numbers. advance bases in iraq with ground and air support is not a bad idea while iran continues to threaten their neighbors. with a heavy US presence, they can only talk crap not wanting to actually risk taking action.

Essentially, we've sunk so much into this thing that to not walk away with some strong bases and control of oil would be to have wasted ~1 trillion dollars and several thousand American lives. Correct? However, do you really feel that this is achievable with ANY escalation, let alone a minimal one?

not to mention the majority of iraqis want us to stay for a while.

And the majority of Americans want us to leave. Who's opinion is more important to you?

 

[stevew]

So basically it says here you're f*cked up, you sound like a fag, and your sh*t's all retarded.

Sh!t, that was good for a laugh.

 

[sanjuro]

idiocracy rulz!

 

[sanjuro]

BTW, N-8, here is the first shot against's Bush's war policy. Sorry it came just in the first month, not in the first 100 hours:

Senate Panel Opposes Troop Increase in Iraq, 12-9
By JOHN HOLUSHA

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 12-9 today to approve a non-binding resolution opposing President Bush’s plan to send additional forces to Iraq, despite Mr. Bush’s plea for support in his State of the Union speech.

“We need to change course in Iraq,” said Senator Joseph Biden, the Delaware Democrat who is chairman of the committee. “We should be drawing down forces.”

At the request of some members, Mr. Biden agreed to change the word “escalation” in the resolution to the more neutral term “increase.” But the committee rejected all amendments to the resolution, both those that would strengthen and weaken it.

Senator Biden said the panel would soon hold hearings and consider measures that would more strictly limit the president’s flexibility to act in Iraq.

He joined with Senators Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska, and Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan, to sponsor the resolution, which objects to “deepening America’s military involvement in Iraq” by sending an additional 21,500 soldiers and marines to the country.

Senator Hagel was the only Republican on the panel to vote for the resolution.

Senator Richard Lugar, Republican of Indiana, said passing the resolution would send a message to allies that the American government was divided over Iraq policy, even though he conceded that he was “not confident” that the president’s plan would succeed.

The resolution endorsed by the committee will go to the Senate floor as soon as next week, and there could be debate over another Iraq resolution as well. That’s because Senator John W. Warner, Republican of Virginia, has not indicated that he will abandon a resolution he has proposed, which he says is different from the one just endorsed by the committee in important respects. "There is a lot in ours that is not in the other one," he said on Tuesday.

Mr. Warner says his approach puts more emphasis on specific benchmarks to gauge progress in Iraq and calls for military rules of engagement to reflect that American forces are not to play a role in quelling sectarian violence. Mr. Warner’s resolution is also backed by Senators Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, and Ben Nelson, Democrat of Nebraska.

Senator Hagel described the war in Iraq as “the most serious issue of our time” and “the most divisive issue in this country since Vietnam.”

Some members of the committee wanted to go beyond the non-binding resolution. Senator Christopher Dodd, Democrat of Connecticut, proposed a binding resolution that would cap the number of troops in Iraq to the number already there unless Congress approved sending more.

Four members of the panel are either running for president or are considered likely to: Senators Biden, Dodd and Barack Obama on the Democratic side, and Senator Hagel on the Republican.