[Pesqueeb]

I feel like it's way past time that we had one of these threads. It is actively happening here in the US. Both Trump and Elon are users, and beneficiaries of. ?

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/06/g-s1-2965/russia-propaganda-deepfakes-sham-websites-social-media-ukraine

Understanding Russian Disinformation and How the Joint Force Can Address It

Russia will dominate information warfare if the United States does not treat disinformation as central to Russian strategy. This article examines the vital role disinformation played in post–Cold War

publications.armywarcollege.edu

Technical Difficulties

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_disinformation#:~:text=Russian%20use%20began%20with%20a,political%20warfare%20called%20active%20measures

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[AngryMetalsmith]

@Pesqueeb I’ll read those links when I have a little more time. However my concern is that a large segment of the population is not only gullible but wants to believe in conspiracy theories, the more outlandish the better. Like feeding corn syrup to the morbidly obese.

 

[Pesqueeb]

@Pesqueeb I’ll read those links when I have a little more time. However my concern is that a large segment of the population is not only gullible but wants to believe in conspiracy theories, the more outlandish the better. Like feeding corn syrup to the morbidly obese.

That's kind of my point, I guess. I've been looking for a very specific article I read during the run up to Trumps first election but can't seem to find it. The gist was that there was a disturbing amount of overlap/similarity to the information war that was going on here at the time, when compared to what happened in the former USSR when it collapsed. The oligarchs took over, and that sowing mistrust in basically everything, but especially institutions and what constitutes even basic facts, were a key facet in cowing the populace. If we're too busy arguing with each other over race/immigrants/inflation/whatever, then we're too busy to do anything about democracy being stolen in broad daylight, and even if we're not, who are you going to trust to do anything about it?

Edit: maybe I've got my timeline wrong, because I'm now 99% certain that the story I read was about this book, which wasn't published until 2020, but was ABOUT the 2016 election.

Active Measures: The Secret History of Disinformation and Political Warfare|Paperback

This revelatory and dramatic history of disinformation traces the rise of secret organized deception operations from the interwar period to contemporary internet troll farmsWe live in the age of disinformation—of organized deception. Spy agencies pour vast resources...

www.barnesandnoble.com

Double edit: moving this book to the top of my list.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

Facts dont matter anymore. We are in a trans-factual society now.
There has been books and formal psychologic papers on this over the last 50 years. Robert Cialdini is a well known writer on the matters of psych influence and how people perceive facts.

Starting about 10-15ish ago, it got weaponized by Trump and pushed into the spotlight.
The last election results, covid and ig/fb/tiktok have proven the effectiveness on this psych techniques. There is no coming back.

I have no idea whats next. According to Cialdini, only a "stronger" Trump (as in louder, more obnoxius and more aspirational) could beat the current status quo.

 

[Jm_]

Brian HCM's buddy Alex

Ex-FBI informant who fabricated bribery story about Biden and his son Hunter gets 6 years in prison

A former FBI informant who fabricated a story about President Joe Biden and his son Hunter accepting bribes has been sentenced to six years in prison.

apnews.com

 

[SkaredShtles]

Facts dont matter anymore. We are in a trans-factual society now.
There has been books and formal psychologic papers on this over the last 50 years. Robert Cialdini is a well known writer on the matters of psych influence and how people perceive facts.

Starting about 10-15ish ago, it got weaponized by Trump and pushed into the spotlight.
The last election results, covid and ig/fb/tiktok have proven the effectiveness on this psych techniques. There is no coming back.

I have no idea whats next. According to Cialdini, only a "stronger" Trump (as in louder, more obnoxius and more aspirational) could beat the current status quo.

Gettin some more mileage out of this one!

 

[Muddy]

Drumpf has already ramped up the hollow-rhetoric; NYT has a subscription-only article about some jacked up comments made toward present LA Wildfire management. Not having developed any sense of empathy ever, aside from being forced to learn Mandarin by his Father in order to receive any kind of family inheritance, there's no read on this looming, upcoming hellride. We as Americans are now going to be forced to observe just how thick this dolt's skin has become - as opposed to before hearing of his being someone possessing thick skin.

The Lost City of Trump


I had posted this article here once before; this is a very strong centering point regarding exactly the 'resurrected' potential of this self-radicalized personality, and bear in mind there will likely be continued shutting out of Daily Intel Briefing (PDB) if not a complete boycott of normal government cooperation. This article is an incredible, permanent, point of reference.

 

[mandown]

You mean things like - women caused the Los Angeles fires.

 

[Nick]

 

[mandown]

Wow