It's driving distance. And by that I'm mean there's just not an ocean in the way.
Next time I go I'm probably not coming back.
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Next time I go I'm probably not coming back.
This is *exactly* how I felt after our trip up to the Canadian Rockies...
Yes, state tuition is fairly close, university's I believe can be much more. Unfortunately its so competitive, plus it seems like local schools rather get out of state students because of out of state tuition. Easy money for the school. My kid for instance, fucked around until April of his Jr. year in HS with a 2.7 GPA (he did play 4 years of football & track). He was forced to go to summer school before his senior year started to get his grades up before submitting college applications. He ended up graduating with a 3.3, decent grades, but not near good enough to get into any of his preferred CA schools, San Diego St, UCLA & UC Santa Barbara. With his GPA plus doing fairly well on his ACT & SAT got into several out of state schools. Colorado State was his top pick and is part of WUE ( Western Undergraduate Exchange) which could have saved us about $5K-$7K a semester if his GPA was around a 3.4-3.5 when entering
. Now we're shelling out $45K a year for school & living expenses. We told both kids first 4 years are on us, after that they're on your own. That being said, my son is doing really well maintaining a 3.5 GPA through his first 3 semesters plus being involved in his fraternity.
If you're so worried about money, why are you buying his friends?
Thanks folks, here all week!
Where else will he score the Ryhypinal?
Shit, I didn't get into most of my schools in '98 (which was easier) with a 3.5, 3 sports - one with a state champion, 1500+ on my SAT (800 on one). I got into Cal and UCI with athletic admissions, although we're pretty sure i would have been academically admitted to UCI, Riverside on academics, not UCSB or UCSD. Did you really think a 3.3 would get him into a UC at all? You have some seriously next level optimism there.Yes, state tuition is fairly close, university's I believe can be much more. Unfortunately its so competitive, plus it seems like local schools rather get out of state students because of out of state tuition. Easy money for the school. My kid for instance, fucked around until April of his Jr. year in HS with a 2.7 GPA (he did play 4 years of football & track). He was forced to go to summer school before his senior year started to get his grades up before submitting college applications. He ended up graduating with a 3.3, decent grades, but not near good enough to get into any of his preferred CA schools, San Diego St, UCLA & UC Santa Barbara. With his GPA plus doing fairly well on his ACT & SAT got into several out of state schools. Colorado State was his top pick and is part of WUE ( Western Undergraduate Exchange) which could have saved us about $5K-$7K a semester if his GPA was around a 3.4-3.5 when entering
This socialism you bitch about is what keeps the cost of school reasonable* for public schools. The caveat is that to take advantage of it, you have to meet levels to do such. A CA resident will be accepted into CA school as long as they meet minimum requirements and there is space. The school will always accept the best students possible (capitalism?), but the state will accept them if you apply to schools that accept at that level.
I'm sure UC Merced or CSU [central valley/secondary] would have taken him with those grades; they might just not be what you want. There are CSU schools that are still good schools where you wouldn't be paying through the nose to get him through school. You could probably be taking advantage of the system everybody pays into and be paying way less if you were realistic about acceptance levels with grades.
I'm not trying to insult your son, because his grades in college are definitely good, but you bitching about school cost is somewhat ironic given you had ways to mitigate those costs because of existing socially friendly policies. And those more socially friendly policies would help keep school cost down in general or even potentially eliminate them with better govt spending or taxation structure. Btw, you don't and never will make enough money to be impacted by effectively every policy being proposed to help make these things more affordable.
LOL, funny. He actually went there with some of his HS friends. He's just living the dream
We his grades were no where good enough as did he, we didn't even want to apply. Yes he could have probably got into San Jose State and easily walk into Cal State East Bay. However, he wanted to go away and not do the commuter school. That being said one of his good friends graduated with a 4.6 and a near perfect ACT and was denied into UCLA which was his dream school. He's now at UC Davis which is still a great school, just the location sucks compared to SoCal. He's studying to be a Dr. He wanted to go to a D1 school, do the fraternity thing, go to football games etc. Just embrace to whole college life. I dropped out of college and my with was the only one in her family to ever graduate college. My wife had no money growing up, and had to put herself through school, JC first then Cal State East Bay. Yep, cheap but she always dreamed about going to UCSD but didn't. She didn't want our son to miss of the whole college experience that she missed. Looking back and hanging out with him at school has me kicking myself for not continuing on and graduating. Just got sucked into the construction gig making a ton of money in the late 80's early 90's, bought cool toys, started investing in the stock market during the dot.com boom etc.
Where would the money come from for these schools? Tax people who already went to college or kids are out of college, on top of free medical? want to fix it? Have the schools responsible for the loans. Borrow from the school, not a private entity. If they had some skin in the game, I think tuition would go way down, as they'd have to eat the loan if there was a default. Anyways, yep I'm bitching about the cost but I'm paying it not asking for a handout from taxpayers.
Who do you think will pay for the $2.3T shortfall over 10 years that the Trump tax cuts have brought about? It’s a handout to you (and me) from future generations. It’s just disguised a tiny bit so that you buy its lie, hook, line, and sinker.
Source of $2.3T figure, assuming the non-corporate cuts are made permanent: https://www.thebalance.com/cost-of-trump-tax-cuts-4586645
Source of $2.3T figure, assuming the non-corporate cuts are made permanent: https://www.thebalance.com/cost-of-trump-tax-cuts-4586645
It's not even that. It's still a draw by the boomers it'll benefit us slightly, but it'll really benefit them. And of course really wealthy people and corporations which are one in the same.
America's largest truck-engine manufacturer just announced 2,000 layoffs — and it's another sign of the trucking 'bloodbath' that's slamming the $800 billion industry
America's $800 billion trucking industry has been in a recession since the beginning of 2019. That downturn is affecting Cummins.
www.businessinsider.com
Working-age Americans dying at higher rates, especially in economically hard-hit states
A new VCU study identifies “a distinctly American phenomenon” as mortality among 25 to 64 year-olds increases and U.S. life expectancy continues to fall.
news.vcu.edu
Making America Dead Again
Guess they got tired of all the winning?
Well yeah, middle-class white.
Truly, the most persecuted minority in the United States.
no mention of the role of access to health care (as in, poor people can't afford it...), or is that implicit in the assumptions?Working-age Americans dying at higher rates, especially in economically hard-hit states
A new VCU study identifies “a distinctly American phenomenon” as mortality among 25 to 64 year-olds increases and U.S. life expectancy continues to fall.
Yeah? Well, those poor people deserve it... for being poor, you know. That's nobody's fault but their own.
maybe they should fast?Yeah? Well, those poor people deserve it... for being poor, you know. That's nobody's fault but their own.
Yeah? Well, those poor people deserve it... for being poor, you know. That's nobody's fault but their own.
Or get some more from their Russian connections?
You jest, but type 2 DM and obesity are more prevalent in the poor. Fasting would actually do their metabolisms a favor.
The only reason I brought it up is because of the studies you posted in your thread (which I need to take the time to read properly, because I am very intrigued).
But it all seriousness, I also wondered what your thoughts were on this study. It seems clear to me that this is a "correlation" study, and since correlation /= causation, much more research is needed to determine any causal factors. But i have to imagine that stress brought on by economic precarity has to play a huge role in lifestyle choices and mortality.
r/Documentaries - Poverty in the USA - How the poor people survive (2019) - "Poverty is rampant in the richest country in the world. Over 40 million people in the United States live below the poverty line, twice as many as it was fifty years ago. It can happen very quickly."
17,404 votes and 2,619 comments so far on Reddit
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Havent watched it yet but looks interesting...
Looking at etable 4 from the JAMA paper on mortality, many of those causes are likely related to smoking or diabetes.
Massive Leak of Data Reveals Money-Hiding Secrets of Superrich--and This Is 'Only the Beginning' | Common Dreams
"It's hard to overstate how notorious and suspicious the firm is."
www.commondreams.org
Nothing to see here... These rich people have all earned every penny and poor people should just work harder.
Was this a crazy person? I mean, were they clinically insane?
Bus driver
What fucking AM talk radio is he listening to?
His "research" and "sources" say that will happen. My look must have been good, because he turned around and walked away promptly
Keynes was wrong. Gen Z will have it worse.
Instead of never-ending progress, today’s kids face a world on the edge of collapse. What next?
www.technologyreview.com
Look at that stock market!!!
Study By MIT Economist: U.S. Has Regressed To A Third-World Nation For Most Of Its Citizens
America divided – this concept increasingly graces political discourse in the U.S., pitting left against right, conservative thought against the liberal agenda. But for decades, Americans have been rearranging along another divide, one just as stark if not far more significant – a chasm once bridged
mavenroundtable.io
What do you think a map of that study might look like? Think there might be some correlation to this one?Look at that stock market!!!
Study By MIT Economist: U.S. Has Regressed To A Third-World Nation For Most Of Its Citizens
America divided – this concept increasingly graces political discourse in the U.S., pitting left against right, conservative thought against the liberal agenda. But for decades, Americans have been rearranging along another divide, one just as stark if not far more significant – a chasm once bridgedmavenroundtable.io