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The Franchi SPAS-15 may be no more - say hello to the AA-12: Full-Auto Shotgun

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by S.K.C., Feb 4, 2008.

  1. S.K.C.

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    THIS is nuts:




    300 rounds per minute of 0-0 buck or deer slugs... damn.
     
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  2. ultraNoob

    ultraNoob Yoshinoya Destroyer

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    feget the slugs... 20 m80 sized grenades in 4 seconds through a window is impressive
     
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    that is insane, imagine hunting with that
     
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  4. ultraNoob

    ultraNoob Yoshinoya Destroyer

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    hmmm... with the grenade round, you could shoot, gut, prep, and tenderize your prey all in one step
     
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    N8 v2.0 Not the sharpest tool in the shed

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    syadasti i heart mac

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    #6 -   Feb 4, 2008
  7. ultraNoob

    ultraNoob Yoshinoya Destroyer

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    the big 40mm metal storm is too big to deploy as a troop weapon... be great as a turret mount or something. that 3gl thingy is nice, but it's not grunt proof. I've dropped 40mm HE rounds in dirt, had them roll around in muck. Even though they're slightly dinged or dirty, they'll load and fire.

    Those metalstorm 40mm's look like they have to be clean to ensure good electrical contacts. The 12ga grenades look grunt proof. Also if you get in a pinch, you can always tape marbles to the primers and chuck them at your enemy.
     
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  8. syadasti

    syadasti i heart mac

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    They are developing various small arms including handguns, not just the 3GL. It doesn't work the same way as a regular firearm. Sounds more like you would exchange an empty barrel for loaded one:

     
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    syadasti i heart mac

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    In other news, they test fired a big railgun at the end of last month:

    http://www.onr.navy.mil/emrg/electromagnetic-railgun.asp

     
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    ultraNoob Yoshinoya Destroyer

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    ooo, rail gun tech makes me gitty!

    but semi 40mm's have been around for years...
     
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    Seems like the metalstorm version would rain a whole bunch of rounds with more accuracy (since everything would be practically fired at once) but it wouldn't have the same usage as the AA12 and you'd have to swap barrel clusters or add a cartridge and/or magazine system...
     
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    I prefer the A-bomb should be even more effective.
     
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    Real question is, where can I buy one. I've been down to Blackwater, but I didn't see any on sale.
     
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    While this thread is up, any firearms fanatics here? I've got a Beretta CX4 Storm in .40 cal, a Yugoslavian M70AB2 underfolder, and my most recent addition, a Rock River Arms AR-15 M4.
     
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    ultraNoob Yoshinoya Destroyer

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    I just have the essentials. FN-FAL, Sig p220, S&W Model 66, Ruger 10/22... just the essentials.

    Used to have quite a bit more, but I realized I should only own what I can carry in one trip out the door.
     
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    JohnE filthy rascist

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    I have a Browning Hi Power, classic 9mm, a Sprigfield Armory 1911 A-1 and a Winchester 1300 Defender. I agree, you need no more then you can carry into the Kwikkie mart with you...

    Working on an M4 build too, but kind of holding until I leave Cali.
     
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    Not much to speak of myself - but in response to the Metal Storm technology - it's definitely an effective turret-mount or mobile weapons platform, but in the field, I don't see it being practical as a troop deployed weapon. I know there are protos out there for hand-held Metal-Storm guns, but it would seem that reloading after every 2nd or 3rd trigger pull could be a bitch under fire with those things.

    As for the semi-auto and full-auto 40 mike-mike, those things are pretty sweet. :biggrin:

    The thing I noticed about the AA-12 is that it looks like they have perfected the operation of getting the rounds to feed and eject without jams in full-auto mode. Recoil doesn't appear to be too bad either. Not too bad altogether considering shotgun shells were never designed for rapid-fire useage.

    :)
     
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    I've test fired a few other semi/full auto shotties at the SOF demo. All were recoil operated. All jammed after a few hundred rounds. The AA-12 is gas operated much like the M-16. Hope it's just as reliable.

    Used to operate the M-19 turret mount. One of my happiest memories.
     
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    I had to register my FN-FAL. Cops already knew I had it so I had no choice. Took it down to their range so they could test fire and make sure it's not Class III. hehe, it wasn't when I brought it to them ;)
     
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    JohnE filthy rascist

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    Uhhmm, yeah, I prefer to operate inside the laws. Prison is an ugly place...

    And an autolaoding shotgun jamming after "a few hundred rounds"? Just how many are you going to need? :busted:
     
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    haha...
    We've got an awesome Class III shootout here in Kentucky, located at Knob Creek. It's a full range with shoots throughout the weekend...and a 50 cal. sniper shoot that is great to watch. That said...I don't have my Class III, so i'll be sticking to semi-auto. I really don't want to sign my life away to the ATF.
     
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    just a tip...check where the firing pin is striking the primer. we had some guys from another agency at our carbine school with brand new RRA AR's all decked out with the latest "pimp my rifle" setup. about every 4th round they'd jam and we finally figured out that the firing pin was actually puncturing the primer....turned out to be an issue with a loose tolerance in the chamber.

    just something to think about if you start jamming up...punctured primer = REALLY BAD
     
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    Manimal,
    Thanks for the tip! I haven't fired it yet because i'm waiting to pick up an EoTech 512...but hopefully I won't have any problems.
     
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    The only weapon on a par with the Mk 19 is the M 2...there is a reason it has been around for 60 plus years! Most fun you can with with your clothes on!
     
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    Firing the M2 at night... jeebus that was fun!
     
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    Leaving aside my father's many guns, I've got a 10/22 and a Cougar 8000 9mm.

    Next on the list are a compact pistol and a tactical shotgun.
     
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    a mounted 25mm is alot of fun to fire.
     
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    We never cease coming up with more efficient ways to kill each other. What a fvckin awful invention.
     
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    Best rule of a gunfight:


    1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns.
     
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    Fixed.
     
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    lol...some of us don't have that choice ;)
     
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