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vivisectxi

vivisectxi

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buckoW said:
Ok, I didn’t know about the 2 position shock mount. What i2i shock are you guys running. I put a 222mm on there. I couldn’t imagine it needing a 215mm just because the leverage ratio would be so high.
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now that i think about it... i short shocked mine years ago w/ a 2.5 x 8 .5 to lower things a bit. Stock was 2.75 x 8.875 for 9" travel (claimed), so perhaps your numbers aren't out of order.

beginning leverage ratio IS fairly aggressive; aaron claimed about 4.2 beginning, leveling to around 2.5. had me questioning my spring rate as it's so ridiculously plush off the top.
 
konastab01

konastab01

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buckoW said:
Ok, I didn’t know about the 2 position shock mount. What i2i shock are you guys running. I put a 222mm on there. I couldn’t imagine it needing a 215mm just because the leverage ratio would be so high.
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I have the standard DHX out the now as Ive put in a EXT which actually is slightly longer than the standard one but it rides better as its a better shock.

Ill measure them at the weekend when i get a chance.
 
buckoW

buckoW

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Thanks guys! That works out pretty good then because I have a nice 215mm i2i Ohlins shock sitting around. Can one of you measure your top tube? Mine feels like a short one.
 
konastab01

konastab01

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buckoW said:
Thanks guys! That works out pretty good then because I have a nice 215mm i2i Ohlins shock sitting around. Can one of you measure your top tube? Mine feels like a short one.
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They are short compared to what modern bikes are now, Ohlins would be a nice upgrade over the Fox.
 
toodles

toodles

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In the latest Joe Barnes/Dukes of Hazzard Youtube vid they've somehow found a Lahar

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Jump to about 6:00 mark for some quality retro gearbox slapping
 
norbar

norbar

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buckoW said:
Those aren’t wool socks.
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Wool socks are for cyclocross only


Also in that pic the BB defo doesn't look 375mm. I know pics lie but it looks normal and not like a VP-Free.

@konastab01 looks like a really fun trip. Just the right amount of slippery to be either kinda fun sliding around or give you too much confidence and end in a crash.
 
konastab01

konastab01

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norbar said:
Wool socks are for cyclocross only


Also in that pic the BB defo doesn't look 375mm. I know pics lie but it looks normal and not like a VP-Free.

@konastab01 looks like a really fun trip. Just the right amount of slippery to be either kinda fun sliding around or give you too much confidence and end in a crash.
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Yeah was a really fun trip although wasn't featured was the i had a chain malfunction on the race line at dyfi on the last day and had a big stack. By the last day i was really up to speed and then that happened! Oh well
 
norbar

norbar

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konastab01 said:
Yeah was a really fun trip although wasn't featured was the i had a chain malfunction on the race line at dyfi on the last day and had a big stack. By the last day i was really up to speed and then that happened! Oh well
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A chain blocked your drivetrain or how did it cause you to crash? Really want to visit Dyfi. It's just traveling to UK with a bike is a PITA for me so won't happen soon when the alps are way closer.
 
konastab01

konastab01

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norbar said:
A chain blocked your drivetrain or how did it cause you to crash? Really want to visit Dyfi. It's just traveling to UK with a bike is a PITA for me so won't happen soon when the alps are way closer.
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The chain tensioner snapped, then I went to pedal and it got jammed up and brought me to a standstill at about 20mph. Got a sore yin and luckily didn’t break anything.

Dyfi if I’m honest wasn’t great if your not into big jumps, the best track was race line but even then its just a bit bike parky and not that fun. Joe has miles better stuff in FW and some other riding parts in scotland.
 
iRider

iRider

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norbar said:
Is this from 77 designs? I remember they had some "risky" ideas for how lightweight a stem should be.
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Yep, they have a full video series on the development of the non-gearbox version. Well worth a watch if you can tolerate the German.
Their risky lightweight stem is the one used in the WAO combo discussed elsewhere on here.
 
norbar

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iRider said:
Yep, they have a full video series on the development of the non-gearbox version. Well worth a watch if you can tolerate the German.
Their risky lightweight stem is the one used in the WAO combo discussed elsewhere on here.
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What's WAO?
 
norbar

norbar

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konastab01 said:
The chain tensioner snapped, then I went to pedal and it got jammed up and brought me to a standstill at about 20mph. Got a sore yin and luckily didn’t break anything.

Dyfi if I’m honest wasn’t great if your not into big jumps, the best track was race line but even then its just a bit bike parky and not that fun. Joe has miles better stuff in FW and some other riding parts in scotland.
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Well I suck a massive D at jumping so yeah. A bummer to hear that.
 
norbar

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konastab01 said:
Im ok at tabletops and small doubles, but get the absolute fear at big stuff these days.
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Yeah I lost that childish belief that I will land all the jumps. I need to do more dirt jumping again as that helped me in the past. Too bad we no longer have an indoor park for winter training
 
slyfink

slyfink

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norbar said:
Yeah I lost that childish belief that I will land all the jumps. I need to do more dirt jumping again as that helped me in the past. Too bad we no longer have an indoor park for winter training
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I found the opposite. going to the dirt jumps gave me enough "skill" to get myself in trouble on the DH trails... I blame my time at the pump track/DJ set on my dirt jumper for giving me the impression I could clear the jumps when I wound up breaking my back... (I'm fully aware this is all mental, but a scapegoat is nice)
 
boostindoubles

boostindoubles

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Usually when I eat it jumping it's because I was sending the trail blind. Always walk the line and scope it out is what I learned, the hard way, a couple times.
 
toodles

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norbar said:
Yeah I lost that childish belief that I will land all the jumps.
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You are absolutely guaranteed to land from all jumps.

boostindoubles said:
Usually when I eat it jumping it's because I was sending the trail blind. Always walk the line and scope it out is what I learned, the hard way, a couple times.
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We have a local legal jump trail near us built and maintained by council contractors. The spacing and length of the jumps varies so much that every weekend there's a few bad crashes there. The council reckons they need to tone it down, ignoring all comments that they just need to employ a competent builder.

Nothing like a series of jumps that are like "sprint and pull, boost, squash or die, boost, boost, then a random hip into a corner without a berm..."
 
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