The Goodness That is iPhone
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That dude gave me a hard on.
It does look handy
Meh...it'll be like 5 years before they're available here anyway.....
I feel your pain. Here in Aus it is going to be a long wait. And I am dreading the local hype that is set to begin once a local release date is set.
Jobs you are a marketing genius, but seriously lets have a break for a while. My head hurts.
I am going to reserve any pre-judgement until I see a decent number of opinions about. There is such a limited number of these things floating around that any time someone says anything it is touted as gospel.
So I will wait. At least Apple is pushing a relatively stagnant market to be innovative.
So I will wait. At least Apple is pushing a relatively stagnant market to be innovative.
Touchscreen keyboards have tried and failed for years now. Multitouch has been already implemented on smartphones too. Apple doesn't innovative, they market and refine other people's technology, just like Microsoft only they are more smooth
I would think the way they 'refine' is pretty darn close to innovation.
Sure digital music players had been around but the dead simple UI of the iPod was the thing people loved.
There have been phones, touch screens etc before, but their combination in the iPhone is something different. Whether the cocktail will work is another question.
Sure digital music players had been around but the dead simple UI of the iPod was the thing people loved.
There have been phones, touch screens etc before, but their combination in the iPhone is something different. Whether the cocktail will work is another question.
No its evolution, they did not create the technology. They often claim they are first when they are clearly not. They are not the innovators just as Microsoft is not an innovator either.
Who was the "source"? I think the term is "hearsay".
Criticizing something you've never seen in person or used is considered ignorance right?
This looks awful!
Wow.... Rate plans
I think you need a 2 year agreement too... I'm waiting until it's available with other carriers and any bugs have been worked out.
I've owned and/or supported Newtons (120), Sharp Zaurus, Blackberry (numerous generations), Palms (various), Pocket PC, WinCE, Windows Mobile for over a decade. BES and Good server also. My conclusions are based on the real world, not marketing bullsh*t.
So really its you, the Apple fanboy enduser hyping up all of their products before you've never seen in person or used one, who is showing their ignorance.
The real world runs on BES and Good smartphones. They are the ones that make the world work. They've been getting the job done for 8 years. Blame Canada for the effective smartphone, not Apple in Cupertino - their Newton was a failure as almost all the other PDAs I've used save for the PocketPC with Good server. Touchscreen keyboards suck - end of story.
If you want a real smartphone, get the Curve.
As I Have with many Apple products because of their innovative and beautiful designs and ease of use. They've had flops, but more often than not they produce some killer products. I've used Apple products since 1986 and I give Apple an 83% approval rating.
I've seen the iPhone demos and they look fvcking awesome. You disagree? You'd rather nitpick using 3rd party information than bask in the glow of yet another Steve Jobs breakthrough?
There will be bugs like every other pioneer invention, but I didn't buy an iPod until the 3rd generation, yet I'm happy as a clam with my Nano.
I'm guessing you've never sat down and designed something as you seem way too left brained to enjoy the beauty of greatness.
You're not reading well.
This isn't 3rd party information, or hearsay, or anything like it. Typing on devices that have no tactile feedback isn't fun. This is based on years and years of a myriad of companies attempting and failing to create a successful on-screen keyboard. Guess what Apple is producing? A typing keyboard with no tactile feedback. There is nothing special or unique about the design. The iPhone looks slick, but no amount of design tweaks will replace the fact that you're trying to type on a small screen with nothing but visual confirmation of what you've typed. It's not easy, it's not fun, and Apple hasn't introduced anything into the typing process that will fix these things.
It may be that the functionality of the phone is so overwhelmingly positive that it overshadows what I consider to be a glaring flaw. But the fact remains, they keyboard is very likely to suck, and a published insider perspective seems to confirm that. There is no real reason to believe otherwise.
Are you dense? My first computer was an Apple IIc. My elementary school had mostly Apple, some commodore, and an Atari. My HS had nothing but macs. I owned an Apple Newton 120. My sister had a one of the color classic macs. I used both Macs and PCs at university. I support Macs and PCs professionally and currently own a Mac Mini.
They are just overgrown calculators, get a life.
ALL of your iPhone information is third party too, so STFU.
No because I know better than to believe marketing no matter how slick it is. The technology in the iPhone is not new and already testers are saying again touchscreen keyboards still suck. Good thumb typing is required unless you just want an overpriced media player phone with a multi-year contract - might as well save your money and pocket space and get the well refined 2nd generation Pearl with Suretype from the provider of your choice.
The i-phone will produce an intoxicating cloud of smug and you won't care that you keep hitting the wrong buttons. In fact the extended time required to use the i-phone will extend the time people can see you using your i-phone thereby increasing the intoxication smug cloud.
Sounds right to me. Stupid endusers will buy it as a status symbol and it will catch on for that, it won't work well as smartphone but at least you can have your mediaplayer and phone in one unit - that would be the reason it could succeed if it wasn't for its super restrictive launch with AT&T, high price, and on screen keyboard.
Are you a c0ck sucking weasle? Just asking since you don't know my technological history.
Get a life?
I'm not versed in phone keyboard specs nor do I want to be. Apple has introduced yet another beautiful product that has captured the public. They will sell better than the piece of crap Razr that everyone drooled over with an initial price of $500. iPhone's will be improved on, and they will sell even more.
BV, I was referring to his Engaget link.
I'm not saying Apple invented anything, but they took the puzzle pieces and yet again created something that is awesome.
So 8 year old technology is what's leading us into the future. Great.
Touchscreen keyboards are much older than research in motion period...
His Engadget link was to a criticism of the on-screen keyboard. Since such devices have a history of bad keyboards, and Apple has done nothing to improve the touchscreen keyboard, and the criticism falls almost exactly in line with every criticism of such keyboards to date... I don't understand what your problem was with it?
Yeah, syadasti's anti-Apple line gets old. What do you expect, though, when you call a readily expected and completely valid criticism of the keyboard to be "ignorance" or expect it to be ignored?
Prolly my permanent hangover and the use of "fanboy" as a critcism set me off. I've been very happy with Apple and made a grip off their stock, so yeah, I'm a fanboy.
I'm sure the designers and engineers at Apple as well as Steve Jobs have looked at more than one angle with this project and will lean towards their decisions rather that some whiny twentysomething help desk monkey.
Of course. The angle, though, is that their device design, OS usability and public image will completely overwhelm the problems with touchscreen keyboards.
It will, too. But make no mistake: help desk monkeys across the country will pass on it because of the keyboard problems
Wish I had invested in Apple back when it was at rock bottom.
Running OSX and full Safari on a phone makes me tingle. I have XL hands and am used to too small or difficult keyboards, but I manage to keep my life moving forward. :biggrin:Of course. The angle, though, is that their device design, OS usability and public image will completely overwhelm the problems with touchscreen keyboards.
It will, too. But make no mistake: help desk monkeys across the country will pass on it because of the keyboard problems
Wish I had invested in Apple back when it was at rock bottom.
I bought AAPL in the late 90's for $15. I was able to take a year off and live and play golf in Scottsdale 3-4 times a week.
Edit: And I was quite happy with my
Syadasti, please stop beating your chest. Can we stop the argument here?
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I had one of these back in the dayEdit: And I was quite happy with my
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Now I have no cell phone, so the iPhone holds little appeal
I have one of these sitting right next to me right now. It really has all the functionality I need in a phone.
How about censoring the one who is making the insults then? My posts merely spell out how the one who is making the ignorant comment is clearly ignorant of reality. Perhaps he is still drunk
Hot chick at bar in 1999: Ooooh, is that digital?I had one of these back in the day
SB: Ahhh, no just analog.
Hot chick at bar in 1999: Oh. [walks away]
Dude, I'm praising a cool new product. You can run around with your RTFM T-shirt all day long, but I'm here for fun. Please STFU.How about censoring the one who is making the insults then? My posts merely spell out how the one who is making the ignorant comment is clearly ignorant of reality. Perhaps he is still drunk
I didn't need stocks to do that and my option was actually fun/not so insular. I was able to take a half year off and move to NZ to ride 3-4 times a week instead. IT market was tough to get into without moving down rank a bit but I got job in the finance sector only a few weeks after I moved back to the USI bought AAPL in the late 90's for $15. I was able to take a year off and live and play golf in Scottsdale 3-4 times a week.
If I have an Apple phone, a 4th divorce is almost certain!
You mean nobody ever told you that you're not supposed to marry the dirty bar skanks?
Actually, only one was a dirty bar skank. One was my girlfriend's sister (great idea!), and the third was literally the girl next door.
You should move to Utah so you can multitaskActually, only one was a dirty bar skank. One was my girlfriend's sister (great idea!), and the third was literally the girl next door.
Boy, all you have to do is marry either a superior or a subordinate at work and you'd have bagged the top 4 categories that you're not supposed to date