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The Governator: "Don't be economic girlie men!"

Toshi

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i kid you not.

There is another way you can tell you're a Republican. You have faith in free enterprise, faith in the resourcefulness of the American people ... and faith in the U.S. economy. To those critics who are so pessimistic about our economy, I say: "Don't be economic girlie men!"
arnold tells a nice story or two in his speech, but it's entirely devoid of substance imo.
 

Changleen

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Arnie said:
If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government...then you are a Republican! If you believe a person should be treated as an individual, not as a member of an interest group... then you are a Republican! If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does... then you are a Republican! If you believe our educational system should be held accountable for the progress of our children ... then you are a Republican!
So George Bush IS NOT a republican? Now I'm confused, Arnie...
 

N8 v2.0

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fluff

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N8 said:
HAHA!

You should be an expert on tales devoid of substance... Your canidate is running on such a platform.

What was it again that Kerry managed to accomplish in the the 19 years of Senate service..???
Why do you ask questions when you are not interested in listening to the answer?
 

fluff

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N8 said:
I'm listening.......................
You're not, you're pretending to listen.

You had already decided that you would vote for Bush in November before you knew who his opponent was. Regardless of what Kerry has or has not achieved you would still vote for Bush. Kerry could be the messiah but you'd vote for Bush.
 

N8 v2.0

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fluff said:
You're not, you're pretending to listen.

You had already decided that you would vote for Bush in November before you knew who his opponent was. Regardless of what Kerry has or has not achieved you would still vote for Bush. Kerry could be the messiah but you'd vote for Bush.

You never know... there just might be something in Kerry's 19 year senate record that will just might change my mind.

So... are you going to come up with something???
 

fluff

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N8 said:
You never know... there just might be something in Kerry's 19 year senate record that will just might change my mind.

So... are you going to come up with something???
It won't change your mind, because it's already closed but here goes anyway:

2002
1. Massachusetts Telecommunications Council "Policy Maker of the Year"
2. NAM Vets of Cape Cod and Islands Award For Significant and Exemplary Support Rendered To Veterans of This Country and of the Cape and Islands
3. John W. McCormick Award for Public Service

2001
1. June 21, 2002
Parents for Residential Reform, Mass Families Organizing for Change and the Federation for Children with Special Needs presented The Powerful Friend Recognition Award to Senator Kerry "for his outstanding leadership and national voice on behalf of children with disabilities and their families".
2. Visiting Nurse Association of America's "Legislator of the Year"
3. Gerry Studds Stewardship Award from the Boston Harbor Island Alliance for his work to preserve the Boston Harbor Islands
4. Institute of International Education's "Steven P. Duggan Award for International Understanding" for lifetime achievement in public service and leadership in the U.S. Senate

2000
1. Massachusetts Association of Home Health Care's "Legislator of the Year"
2. American Jewish Committee's "Congressional Leadership Award" for efforts on religious freedom in the workplace

1999
1. Friends of the Public Garden's "Henry Lee Award" for efforts to preserve Boston's green spaces

1998
1. "Zero to Three" Association's "Achievement Award" for work on early childhood development issues
2. Association for Enterprise's "Leadership Award" for leadership on the Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship
3. Assumption College's "Presidential Medal"


1997
1. National Health Association's "Legislator of the Year Award" for support of expanded child care and attention for at-risk children. Sponsored 1997 Early Childhood Development Act

1996
1. Armenian Assembly of America's Award for service and commitment to the Armenian people. John Kerry was co-sponsor of Humanitarian Aid Corridor Act, providing aid to Armenia and other nations
2. Time Magazine's "Honest Man in Politics Award" f or being only Senator up for reelection in 1996 to vote against Defense of Marriage Act

1995
1. Environmental Business Council Paul Keogh Award June 9, 1995 for distinguished commitment to environmental industries

1993
1. Tri-Community Chamber of Commerce George B. Wells Award December 7, 1993 for leadership in tourism
2. Committee for Showing the World what a complete Partisan Tool N8 is, from then until now.

1990
1. Minority Business Enterprise Legal Defense Fund "Minority Business Development Trendsetter of the Year" June 17, 1990
2. SMU Labor Education Center Arnold M. Dubin Award November 15, 1990 for outstanding contributions to the causes of labor and social justice

1998
1. League of Conservation Voters Award honored for having one of the best For environmental voting record over previous 5 years

1988
1. Commencement speaker for Umass/Boston 20th Commencement UMass Boston Honorary Degree
2. Brockton Little League's "Appreciation Award" March 7, 1988 for work with special needs division

1986
1. B'nai Brith Council of Greater Boston's "Man of the Year"

1985
1. National Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy Award honored JK at a reception at the Boston Center for Adult Education

COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS

Small Business and Entrepreneurship, Ranking Member
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Commerce, Science and Transportation
(Members, Jurisdiction)
Sub-Commitee on Oceans, Fisheries, and the Environment Ranking Member
Sub-Committee on Communications
Sub-Committee on Transportation
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Finance
(Members, Jurisdiction)
Sub-Committee on Health Care
Sub-Committee on International Trade
Sub-Committee on Social Security and Family Policy
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Foreign Relations
(Members, Jurisdiction)
Sub-Committee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs Ranking Member
Sub-Committee on European Affairs
Sub-Committee on Western Hemisphere, Peace Corps & Narcotics Affairs

There's plenty more but I doubt you'll read this far. Didn't he work with McCain to bring back Vietnam POWs?
 

N8 v2.0

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fluff said:
Ah... so he has accomplished the following then:


He played an important role in negotiating S. J. Res. 23, which authorized the President to take military action to respond to the September 11 attacks

Senator Kerry believes...

Senator Kerry is deeply troubled

Senator Kerry authored the Gun Lock Consumer Protection Act

Senator Kerry helped to negotiate..

Senator Kerry has supported...

Kerry has advocated market-based solutions

Senator Kerry was a key supporter of

Senator Kerry addressed the Senate

The Senator supported the Department of Defense Appropriations bill, which the Senate approved on December 20, 2001. This legislation provides $317.6 billion in funding for national defense programs and $20 billion in emergency supplemental funding for homeland security, defense activities to combat terrorism, and aid and recovery programs for victims of the terrorist attacks. Before he voted against it

Senator Kerry has been a leader

Senator Kerry moved to strengthen

lead cosponsor of the National Marine Sanctuaries Reauthorization Act


Oh heck... you get the idea. Basically he's a follower. There is perhaps a handful of bills he has actually sponsored. At best, he generally appreasr to be a "Lead Cosponsor" and all this is from his very own personal website.

:rolleyes:
 

fluff

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And Bush has done what?

(Oh, and I know that you didn't read my posts very closely, you just tried to find something to attack Kerry on.)
 

N8 v2.0

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fluff said:
And Bush has done what?

(Oh, and I know that you didn't read my posts very closely, you just tried to find something to attack Kerry on.)

Not at all.

I was looking for something that would show some kind of leadership role after all he is running for President and all.

I figured he'd have done something he could run on other than his 4 months in Vietnam.
 

fluff

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N8 said:
Not at all.

I was looking for something that would show some kind of leadership role after all he is running for President and all.

I figured he'd have done something he could run on other than his 4 months in Vietnam.
I have no great affinity for Kerry but he's a better (and sadly only realistic) alternative to the incumbent fool. That you seem to think Bush has demonstrated good leadership is scary.
 

fluff

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I'll know when someone's read my post on Kerry's achievements well enough to make an intelligent assessment, and I know N8 hasn't yet... ;)
 

-BB-

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then you are a Republican! If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does... then you are a Republican!
I believe that I can spend my money better than the government does, but I'm not a republican b/c I don't think that YOU can spend your money better than the government does. ;) :devil: :sneaky:
 

Lexx D

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I've been watching the speeches. While I don't always agree with what the dems do or say I'm voting for Kerry. All the Repubs give me is reasons not to vote for them.
 

ohio

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N8 said:
Not at all.

I was looking for something that would show some kind of leadership role after all he is running for President and all.

I figured he'd have done something he could run on other than his 4 months in Vietnam.
It's amazing to me how easily people, especially those who think of themselves as politically active, are manipulated by political one-liners and manufactured stereotypes. If people had ANY understanding of senate politics, they would laugh at this idea of Kerry being a flip-flopper. It takes so many amendments and revisions to pass a bill of ANY significance that EVERY senator who has ever done anything useful has voted both for and against anything they ever cared about, as the other side made amendments over the line in attempt to find a middle ground, or equal concessions. Pick your senator, and we could easily fabricate a nice list pf flip-flips on any number of key issues.

You have NO IDEA what kind of leader Kerry was in any of those committee sessions. Being a leader doesn't necessarily mean sponsoring and authoring every bill that comes your way. It means convincing people to be on your side, working together with those on your side to find the best solution, and inspiring people to think harder about solutions. Most of those sessions are closed but watch some historical C-Span footage of Kerry and you'll see a much greater leader than he's been in campaign mode.

The republicans have simply proven themselves masters of fabricating a personality and then making it the truth by repeating it enough times (see Gore the Liar, Clinton the Sex-Crazed Maniac, Kennedy the Drunk [okay, maybe some truth to that, but there's plenty of Rep Alkies too], Carter the Pus$y, Hillary the Bitch, etc.) Even YOUR ignorance isn't an excuse for being THAT gullible, N8.
 

biggins

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'So to the large percentage of those who are living below the poverty line, the Republicans' message to you is: 'Suck it up, faggots'.' :rolleyes:

John Stewart, "The Daily Show," 9/2/2004

yeah im to poor to appreciate bushs bustling economy so i guess im just gonna go on my way and keep countin pennys. thanks Pres i appreciate it.
 

fluff

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fluff said:
1993
1. Tri-Community Chamber of Commerce George B. Wells Award December 7, 1993 for leadership in tourism
2. Committee for Showing the World what a complete Partisan Tool N8 is, from then until now.
I particularly liked the second committee in '93. No edits took place.

Now I have proof that N8 isn't listening...
 

rockwool

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The republicans have simply proven themselves masters of fabricating a personality and then making it the truth by repeating it enough times (see Gore the Liar, Clinton the Sex-Crazed Maniac, Kennedy the Drunk [okay, maybe some truth to that, but there's plenty of Rep Alkies too], Carter the Pus$y, Hillary the Bitch, etc.) Even YOUR ignorance isn't an excuse for being THAT gullible, N8.
And that's the TRUTH Ruth! Don't forget Mike Dukakis (my personal all time favourite to the US presidential candidacy). ;) The vast majority of people will not search for more info than given by the politicians in their pre election shoot-offs, when time is limited. That's why their simplifications work so good, there's no way in hell you can give enough substance to some complicated things on such limited time. Good one-liners will kill, and if they've been hammered for some time by the media then anything will work.

We are victims of a propaganda war and the only way of limiting its effects on us is by knowledge of how it works (you've probably heard me say this before...repetition :bonk: I'll make it stick, you'll see....). :)