Isn't war grand?
And yet doing meth in your car on the way to met a gay prostitute for a prostate massage from his penis is frowned upon...is there no justice in this world?Easy man. Staying awake is hard when you're doing something as boring as flying a fighter jet.
Maybe they were really good at evading....During my deployment, the marines at my base had several blue on blue firefights. It happens. It is a result of a lack of communication and it sucks, but it happens. Nothing too scandalous about it.
The thing that really worries me is when two marine units can shoot at each other for five minutes and no one gets hurt!! I mean, thank god no one got hurt. . . .but what does that say about their marksmanship?
Everything I know about shooting and dodging bullets, I learned from the Die Hard series.I like to think they were all dodging bullets while shooting back like in the movies.
we all know that good guys can dodge bullets 'till the cows come home.
and because it "happens" it makes it ok right??The US has bombed Canadians, friendly Iraqis, partying afgans (wedding), greeks, brittish and yes... other US units.
Freindly fire happens, why is everyone trying to make this sound like a bigger deal than it is?
That they were trained by the A-Team? Homeboys couldn't shoot the broadside of a barn....but what does that say about their marksmanship?
Absolutely, you can cleary see in my post where I praised the pilots and think that it's great that they blew up the freindlys... it says so in my post right?and because it "happens" it makes it ok right??
Since I wasn't in Iraq, can someone tell me if it was common practice for Iraqi military vehicles that have no air cover to paint their rocket launchers orange so the pilots on the other side can see them better?
This is straight negligence, plain and simple. They saw the panels, and talked themselves into the fact that they were rockets. There's some blame to be shared, but they still pulled the trigger...
Here's the radio transcript:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007060131,00.html
Where there reports of Lou Gherig's disease before Lou Gherig was diagnosed? I doubt it, but that **** got him anyway.So, 15 years ago he used a red cross. That's not relevant.
Were there any reports of orange rocket launchers this time around?
Yeah, that was incredibly bad luck on his part...Where there reports of Lou Gherig's disease before Lou Gherig was diagnosed? I doubt it, but that **** got him anyway.
Parents really picked a sh*tty name. Should've seen that coming.Yeah, that was incredibly bad luck on his part...
You ever study history? Look up the Trojan war.So, 15 years ago he used a red cross. That's not relevant.
Were there any reports of orange rocket launchers this time around?
Yeah, the Trojan war was exactly like an A-10 pilot shooting up a convoy of British vehicles...you got me there. Exactly the same.You ever study history? Look up the Trojan war.
They've fired at Greeks? Bastards! **** heads had no biznäz being there anyways.The US has bombed Canadians, friendly Iraqis, partying afgans (wedding), greeks, brittish and yes... other US units.
Freindly fire happens, why is everyone trying to make this sound like a bigger deal than it is?
The top secret tape has been seen by the Oxfordshire coroner who is holding L/Cpl Hulls inquest, but both the Ministry of Defence and the US government have REFUSED to let him show it in court.
L/Cpl Hulls widow Susan, of Wiltshire, was even told it did not exist.
Defence officials insist their hands were tied by a legal pledge with the Pentagon not to reveal any of their secrets. But we can reveal there is NOTHING secret on the tape. But it WILL cause appalling embarrassment.
If they are covering up stuff like this, what aren't they doing to the Iraqi's and then cover that up? Can I hear an Abu Ghraib?? Rumsfeld and all the rest responsible for this war should trialed in Nürnberg, that includes that mulatto "peace dove" (as he was reported to be by the media just because he wasn't a war mongrer in comparison to the rest of the administration) Colin Powell.POPOV36 is known to be a lieutenant colonel, and POPOV35 a major, but their identities have never been released. Neither has the result of a US Air Force inquiry.
I don't know if you're aware of this (English being a second language) but that's a full on racist comment.that includes that mulatto "peace dove" (as he was reported to be by the media just because he wasn't a war mongrer in comparison to the rest of the administration) Colin Powell.
It's not that they are covering it up, as far as I know most court martial/disciplinary hearings are not open to the public, especially in a time of war.If they are covering up stuff like this...
There's nothing wrong with that word over here, it is used regularely. To me, mulatta sounds delicious! But I will keep it in mind as I don't want to accidentaly hurt anybody.I don't know if you're aware of this (English being a second language) but that's a full on racist comment.
Sure, media is making money of of it, and there are sertainly some people that are into selling what ever stories to them. But in this case there is no doubt, they have been lying about it containing "secret" material, and even at first lied about the tape not existing! This is standard prosidure, if things don't get known to the public then they've never happened.It's not that they are covering it up, as far as I know most court martial/disciplinary hearings are not open to the public, especially in a time of war.
All that has happened is people are dragging it into the open to create a media frenzy in order to get "Justice" couchmoneycough.
dude, you forgot to mention that marine who shot the wounded bad guy during the Fallujah offensive, those soldiers that raped and killed that girl and her family, um . . .oh, and those marines that went on that rampage and killed a bunch of innocent civilians after their convoy got blown up. Because just like Abu Ghraib, these are not isolated events, they are in fact a true glimpse at the secret war that American troops are actually waging on the Iraqi public. Forget the insurgents, we went over there to kill innocent Iraqis. . . .and the occasional Friendly when we get bored.If they are covering up stuff like this, what aren't they doing to the Iraqi's and then cover that up? Can I hear an Abu Ghraib??
what do you call your resident black people?There's nothing wrong with that word over here, it is used regularely. To me, mulatta sounds delicious! But I will keep it in mind as I don't want to accidentaly hurt anybody.
No - they are just not interested in advertising their mistakes to the world. And who is?The US isn't interested in justice, they don't want their troops to act as propper soldiers, they are tought that their lives are worth more than people from other countries, and they haven't agreed to having their servisemen being able to be tried by the international war tribunal/court (which to my knowledge all western countries agreed to), while at the same time wanting other nations servicemen to be indited by the same court = better and more worth than other nationalities = übermänsch.
Hello, this is Reality looking at Irony and laughing back at you.we went over there to kill innocent Iraqis. . .
We call them Africans or blacks or coloured.what do you call your resident black people?
we call our sicilians & caribeaners "african americans", but not teresa heinz (kerry), who was born in africa (mozambique).
It's not that simple. It's as evil as the very politics they are conducting.No - they are just not interested in advertising their mistakes to the world. And who is?
As for the soldiers being taught their lives are more important... what do you want to teach them? To wait until they are shot befoire acting. So sit and wait for the enemy to ID themselves before engaging?
Not real clear on the concept of a war are you...
Don't waste your energy on Rockwool - he's the polar opposite of n8.We have something called positive I.D. as the rules of engagement. Yes, they have been broken in isolated incidents, but think how many shots haven't been fired at Iraqis because they couldn't be 100% confirmed to be hostile. I've held off on a few shots while I was over there because of it. US troops, at least 99% of them, don't want to go and kill every Iraqi they see. Taking someone's life isn't something to take lightly, and most of us servicemembers don't want to but have to so we can come home to our families.
You're pretty much a mulatto aren't you?I don't know if you're aware of this (English being a second language) but that's a full on racist comment.
yeah, i was about to argue some more, but now I see its pointless.Don't waste your energy on Rockwool - he's the polar opposite of n8.
n8 is far far far right, rockwool is far far far left.
Neither one will every listen to logic or reason, they have their own pre-determined idea of how things are and nothing will change them.
I don't know if you was adressing me but if you were, I wasn't one of them that argued that friendly fire is the sadest thing since Sleeping Beauty laid to sleep. It is a thing that happens.We have something called positive I.D. as the rules of engagement. Yes, they have been broken in isolated incidents, but think how many shots haven't been fired at Iraqis because they couldn't be 100% confirmed to be hostile. I've held off on a few shots while I was over there because of it. US troops, at least 99% of them, don't want to go and kill every Iraqi they see. Taking someone's life isn't something to take lightly, and most of us servicemembers don't want to but have to so we can come home to our families.
Great, US's equivalent to Himmler was of Greek heritatge...AMY GOODMAN: Now, Colonel Pappas ran the prison within the prison, is that right? He ran something called the hard site?
COL. JANIS KARPINSKI: He ran the interrogation operations within the prison, that's correct. And it was -- Cell Block 1A and 1B were the two maximum security wings of the hard site, and during General Miller's visit, either at his order or at his request, General Miller told -- instructed Colonel Pappas to get control of Cell Block 1A.
That is quite an observation from you, I am the political direction polar opposite from N8. I didn't think you was capable of that advanced abstract thinking. You proved me wrong! But unfortunately, the fact that I actually participate in a discussion, and try to show my logic in comming to my conclussions, and often back them with facts, was totally missed by your logical way of reasoning.Don't waste your energy on Rockwool - he's the polar opposite of n8.
n8 is far far far right, rockwool is far far far left.
Neither one will every listen to logic or reason, they have their own pre-determined idea of how things are and nothing will change them.
Good post. Friendly fire is just one of the many ugly byproducts of war. That's why war should be avoided in all but the most dire situations. A point missed badly by this administration.We have something called positive I.D. as the rules of engagement. Yes, they have been broken in isolated incidents, but think how many shots haven't been fired at Iraqis because they couldn't be 100% confirmed to be hostile. I've held off on a few shots while I was over there because of it. US troops, at least 99% of them, don't want to go and kill every Iraqi they see. Taking someone's life isn't something to take lightly, and most of us servicemembers don't want to but have to so we can come home to our families.