[$tinkle]

There is a difference between casually mentioning "heey hippie brethren, religion is lame" and actively advocating a policy that forces a wholly bastardized form of Jeebus down the throats of millions through violence, death, and destruction (not to mention economic rape and exploitation).

We call the latter nasty big words like "inquisition", "ethnic cleansing", and "genocide".

assuming you're speaking to the warry thing going on over there. if so, the architects are primarily neocons, and primarily jews. maybe they're just the puppet masters in yet another conspiracy, with we jesus freaks blissfully unaware that we're doing their bidding.

economic rape/exploitation is sourced from the worshipers of the almighty buck, not from worshipers of the all-mighty. but yeah, it's an american thing, & won't change for generations.

oh wait, what were we talking about? oh yeah, this:
Eight Al Qaeda fanatics working for the [u.k.] police (but they don't dare sack them)

nothing to see here, move along...

 

[rockwool]

Oh **** I forgot about this thread and its 9 frikken pages.. Have to catch up later.

 

[MikeD]

Oh **** I forgot about this thread and its 9 frikken pages.. Have to catch up later.

Just print it and bring it to your next Hizbollah meeting to share.

 

[blue]

You're a ****ing idiot if you think there's a violent attempt to export Christianity from this country. Globalized capitalism, yeah, if you're cynical (which can be healthy in this day and age).

But I'm utterly deluded because I know there's a chance that I could have my ass blown up in an office building in the US, a newspaper publishing firm in Denmark, or in a disco in Malaysia by a Muslim with a bomb? Please. Get over your hatred of the Bush administration (to which you're entitled) and realize that there are Muslims who want to kill you, too. They don't exist? Or we should just ignore them and they'll go away...?

I didn't say there was, I just said Stinkle was in favor of it.

There's a bigger chance you'll die being mugged walking down the street, falling off your bike, getting ass cancer, or getting struck by lightning than being blown up by one of them durn'd terr'ists. Seeing as that's the case, I don't understand why there aren't more threads about said "threats" here...

 

[MikeD]

There's a bigger chance you'll die being mugged walking down the street, falling off your bike, getting ass cancer, or getting struck by lightning than being blown up by one of them durn'd terr'ists. Seeing as that's the case, I don't understand why there aren't more threads about said "threats" here...

I love the pseudo-southern language. Great minimization technique. **** off.

And I take all the precautions I reasonably can against all those other threats. But those other threats aren't growing. They're static, and in many cases, unavoidable or unmitagatable, or already mitigated as much as we can. (Or simply not political, and this does happen to be a political forum, not a rectal forum, as much as it must pain you.)

Radical Islam is growing, and growing, and growing, and it's personal and active. (And our current policies frankly aren't stopping it from growing.) So there will be a point in the future where you and a bunch of other losers will be wondering who exactly "let" the extremism get so bad that it actually began inflicting itself on you in a material manner...the time when you simply can't box it out of your world.

Dude, the people want you DEAD, and their numbers are growing. Failure to acknowledge that, simply because you're a contrarian little prick behind a keyboard who doesn't like the country's right wing, is simply astounding.

I'm not advocating genocide, alarmism, or anti-Muslim sentiment. I'm advocating a realistic realization of the threat and a multi-pronged approach towards neutralizing it. The cornerstone of this approach is denying extremist Islam a mainstream environment which tolerates or fosters it. It's too bad the US may be too far gone in the world's eyes to regain trust and/or sympathy...but I doubt it. People on the whole will, in the end, choose a comfortable and moderate existence over violence with a goal of returning to the year 700. I hope.

 

[Silver]

The cornerstone of this approach is denying extremist Islam a mainstream environment which tolerates or fosters it.

How about religion in general?

It's hard to deny the attractiveness of extremist Islam when we're busy touting the attractiveness of extremist Christianity and supporting extremist Judaism (actually, it's extremist Zionism, but the Islamists aren't going to split that hair) with our pocketbooks.

And now, thanks to the fact that a majority of our population claims to be ignorant ass Christians, we have politicians from both major parties doing their best to out Jesus each other. Brilliant!

 

[$tinkle]

It's hard to deny the attractiveness of extremist Islam when we're busy touting the attractiveness of extremist Christianity and supporting extremist Judaism (actually, it's extremist Zionism, but the Islamists aren't going to split that hair) with our pocketbooks.

funny timing. i was just reading "Religious extremists in 3 [Abrahamic] faiths share views", in which we find that while all 3 faiths can be similarly black & white, and hold a very similar worldview, this stands out

[harvard u. lecturer jessica] Stern said to compare violent extremists from the three faiths was not to suggest that the threat was the same.
"These are not equivalent," she said. "The problems arising from Christian or Jewish extremism are not threatening to the world in the same way as Muslim extremism is."

And now, thanks to the fact that a majority of our population claims to be ignorant ass Christians, we have politicians from both major parties doing their best to out Jesus each other. Brilliant!

you noticed that too, eh? they keep this up & there'll be 20% turnout.

 

[blue]

Radical Islam is growing, and growing, and growing, and it's personal and active. (And our current policies frankly aren't stopping it from growing.) So there will be a point in the future where you and a bunch of other losers will be wondering who exactly "let" the extremism get so bad that it actually began inflicting itself on you in a material manner...the time when you simply can't box it out of your world.

Dude, the people want you DEAD, and their numbers are growing. Failure to acknowledge that, simply because you're a contrarian little prick behind a keyboard who doesn't like the country's right wing, is simply astounding.

I'm not advocating genocide, alarmism, or anti-Muslim sentiment. I'm advocating a realistic realization of the threat and a multi-pronged approach towards neutralizing it. The cornerstone of this approach is denying extremist Islam a mainstream environment which tolerates or fosters it. It's too bad the US may be too far gone in the world's eyes to regain trust and/or sympathy...but I doubt it. People on the whole will, in the end, choose a comfortable and moderate existence over violence with a goal of returning to the year 700. I hope.

I'm not suggesting we simply ignore Islamism and "hope it goes away", because with the status quo it will not. WE foster an environ in which it can thrive. By forcing Western/Israeli interests on the M.E. and supporting corrupt crackpot regimes we do NOT keep extremism at the fringes of a stable society like it should be. We didn't cause Muslim extremism, but we did cause it to grow at such a rapid rate.

It's our bed, we shat in it, and now we're terrified the rats are coming? Please.

 

[$tinkle]

I'm not suggesting we simply ignore Islamism and "hope it goes away", because with the status quo it will not. WE foster an environ in which it can thrive. By forcing Western/Israeli interests on the M.E. and supporting corrupt crackpot regimes we do NOT keep extremism at the fringes of a stable society like it should be. We didn't cause Muslim extremism, but we did cause it to grow at such a rapid rate.

It's our bed, we shat in it, and now we're terrified the rats are coming? Please.

are you able to offer any theories as to why islamism has been brought from the fringes in other parts of europe, northern africa, thailand, the philipines, france, & russia? they seem to be rather immune to our interest, in effect keeping us on the fringes, while muslim extremism seems to daily encroach upon respectable, mainstream islam.

but rest well, as muslim extremism in greenland against inuits - while present - is still on the fringes. i just hope we apply your foreign policy advice and tread lightly, lest our chickens come home to roost in the arctic circle.

 

[DRB]

How about religion in general?

It's hard to deny the attractiveness of extremist Islam when we're busy touting the attractiveness of extremist Christianity and supporting extremist Judaism (actually, it's extremist Zionism, but the Islamists aren't going to split that hair) with our pocketbooks.

And now, thanks to the fact that a majority of our population claims to be ignorant ass Christians, we have politicians from both major parties doing their best to out Jesus each other. Brilliant!

Modern "extreme" Islam is not a movement found in the reaction to Christianity. Do you think that there are missionaries on every corner throwing bibles, tracts and pictures of Jesus at people?

The biggest factor that drives the average Muslim crazy about the US is what they view as a general immorality. We drink, smoke, curse, look at pornography, our women aren't controlled, and we eat bacon. Our movies are absolute filth as is our TV and grooming habits. What we view as acceptable is beyond out of bounds for them. If we were all dyed in the wool moral majority members we would have more in common with the average Muslim then we do now.

So take an extremist and the reaction is twentyfold. For the extremist, his reaction is one of if I don't stop them they are going to get the "cooties" on me and my people.

As for keeping extreme islam on the fringes of society.... do you know how every single Muslim nation has done that in the past? Look no farther than Saddam's Iraq on how that was accomplished.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Modern "extreme" Islam is not a movement found in the reaction to Christianity. Do you think that there are missionaries on every corner throwing bibles, tracts and pictures of Jesus at people?

The biggest factor that drives the average Muslim crazy about the US is what they view as a general immorality. We drink, smoke, curse, look at pornography, our women aren't controlled, and we eat bacon. Our movies are absolute filth as is our TV and grooming habits. What we view as acceptable is beyond out of bounds for them. If we were all dyed in the wool moral majority members we would have more in common with the average Muslim then we do now.

So take an extremist and the reaction is twentyfold. For the extremist, his reaction is one of if I don't stop them they are going to get the "cooties" on me and my people.

As for keeping extreme islam on the fringes of society.... do you know how every single Muslim nation has done that in the past? Look no farther than Saddam's Iraq on how that was accomplished.

Oddly enough, Saddam was doing a better job than we are now...

 

[Silver]

Modern "extreme" Islam is not a movement found in the reaction to Christianity. Do you think that there are missionaries on every corner throwing bibles, tracts and pictures of Jesus at people?

Agreed. I just think that the answer to extremist religion isn't more extremist religion. If your oncologist offers to cure your lung cancer by giving you colon cancer instead, you'd find a new one, right?

 

[$tinkle]

Oddly enough, Saddam was doing a better job than we are now...

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[Secret Squirrel]

^^ bad ass

 

[MikeD]

No threat, huh?
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Radical Islamic Extremists Snowboard Into U.S. Embassy
February 14, 2007 | Issue 43•07

BAGHDAD—Extremist board-trick crew Al-J'Aqasse, the Middle East's most prominent Islamic radical snowboard posse, is taking full props for destroying the American embassy when a member nailed a goofyfoot 720 nosehook from a security-barrier railgrind into its offices while carrying 25 kilos of C4 plastic explosives, Thrashzeera magazine reported Tuesday.

One of Al-J'Aqasse most radical, gnarliest members.

"In the name of Allah the Merciful, this rad **** is off the hook, yo! Death to the great Satan!" Al-J'Aqasse members shouted in a videotaped, System Of A Down–soundtracked statement posted on the magazine's website, which is denouncing the bombing as "totally sick and twizted."

"Satan! Satan! Satan! Al-J'Aqasse blowing up across the M-E!" one member added.

American security is not certain how Al-J'Aqasse was allowed to build their custom snowpipe-ramp setup across the street from the embassy, but banners and promotional materials scattered across the blast zone point to the involvement of radical, extreme-sports-beverage bottler Sunni Delight.

 

[Thylacine]

Mmmmm.....Sunni Delight. I love Pomegranates.

 

[$tinkle]

some o you kids might like http://iowahawk.typepad.com/, which takes the lighter look on this topic; f'rinstance:

On Tuesday, new British Prime Minister Gordon Brown met with representatives of the medical and car communities and announced that the government would henceforth prohibit occupational and transportational profiling by public officials. Brown said further government communications would prohibit the use of certain prejudicial words like "doctor," "Vauxhall," "podiatrist," "propane," "Asia," "drive," "ticking noises," "panic," and "the." Brown also announced the formation of a blue ribbon multicultural community advisory board chaired by Dr. Mohammed Ibn-Yasin of the UK Islamic Podiatric and Car Bombing Club.

"An informed and vigilant London is our eyes and ears, and our best hope for thwarting these diverse groups of people from various countries and backgrounds and occupations who are engaged in, or potentially planning activities of some sort," said Jameson. But the spokesman also said public involvement should stop there.

Nigel Brunton, a spokesman for the British Society of Diverse People Doing Various Things, said his organization was "cooperating fully" with police, but said he felt it unfair that it was being singled out.

"In every group there's bound to be a few bad apples," said Brunton. "Or some sort of pomaceous fruit of some kind."

 

[$tinkle]

Save me from the brown invaders! RING THE CHURCH BELL, PAUL REVERE!

life imitates the onion:
Cheshire mum weds Bin Laden

A MUM from Cheshire has married Osama bin Laden’s son, The Sun can reveal.

Jane Felix-Browne wed scrap metal merchant Omar bin Laden — 25 years her junior — at a Muslim ceremony in Egypt.

She fell in love with him after they met during a horseback tour at the Pyramids.

smoove b couldn't have swooned her better.