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The Kelty tent failed me!!!!

golgiaparatus

Out of my element
Aug 30, 2002
7,340
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Deep in the Jungles of Oklahoma
Well I am back from my trip. Everything was awesome except thursday night a huge storm came through.

Here is my storm story:
I had returned from watching Sound Tribe Sector 9 play a fairly good show and there was talk in the air about a storm heading our way. When I got back to the campgrounds I packed everything into the tent to protect it from the incoming rain and went to sleep.

4:30 AM I woke up after about an hour of sleep... it was raining so hard and the wind was so strong I could see the tent bowing above me. Then one of the corners of the tent started to lift... and it eventually pulled the stake out of the ground. At this point I extend both arms and legs out to hold down all 4 corners of the tent. It was working pretty well until some wind getting under the corner of the rainfly that wasnt staked down anymore and pulled it loose, exposing me to massive amounts of cold rain and soaking all of my gear and clothes. So I jumped up to get out of the tent and reattach the corner of the rainfly and immediately one of the aluminum poles folded and the tent collapsed on me sending me to the ground. After several seconds of disorientation I found the zipper and got the hell out of there. I spent the night in my car completely soaked, but managed to fold my tent up into the tarp and park 1 wheel of my car on the very edge of the tent to keep it from blowing away.

THe next morning I assesed the situation... all clothes sompletely soaked, 1 tentpole destroyed and 1 bent pretty bad. All food and beer survived (thank you cooler), all kind bud survived, thank you air tight jar. I spent part of that morning walking around among 50,000 people in my boxer shorts looking, unsuccessfully, for someone with duct tape. I ended up dissassembling of of the rainfly poles and using it as a 3 piece splint to fix the snapped section of tent pole, the splint was firmly attached via a bike tube that I cut into strips. I used the elastic cord from the dissasembled rain fly pole to tie between 2 trees and use as a clothesline so I could dry out some clothes.

The rest of the festival was sweet BTW, but I figured you guys would be most interested in the disaster. BTW, the guys next to me... their tent was fine and it cost them $30 at K-Mart :angry:
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
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In a van.... down by the river
Was their tent oriented differently than yours? Tent pitch orientation is very important if there is a storm involved......

Problem is, it's only a guess as to where the worst wind will come from when you *DO* set the tent up.

Here is an example of proper orientation:



:eek:

-S.S.-
 

Big E

Monkey
Jan 22, 2004
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Hell Paso Texas
yeah my Kelty has held up fine in some nasty wind and rain. and its non-free standing either. so yeah like everyone else said. learn how to pitch a tent. it helps.
 

Repack

Turbo Monkey
Nov 29, 2001
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BurlySurly said:
You need to learn how to properly pitch a tent dude.
My feeling as well. But I (Mr. Kettle) should not talk too much smack about Golgi (Mr. Pot) because I too have been soaked!
You live and learn!

PS-Does your tent fly come all the way down the the ground? Also, I have found that the instructions included with many tents do not tell you the best method for setting it up. My directions said to stake everything first, then set up the poles. I can never get a tent to tension correctly doing it that way. One of the reasons I bought a full-sized air mattress was to keep me off the ground if it did rain. Any pics of the kind of tent you were using?

But at least the most important supplies stayed dry!
 

golgiaparatus

Out of my element
Aug 30, 2002
7,340
41
Deep in the Jungles of Oklahoma
BurlySurly said:
You need to learn how to properly pitch a tent dude.
Blow me... ive been setting up tents on backpacking trips since I was 10. 40 mph winds are crazy on a small tent when thre arent any hills or cover.

Besides If I had know there were going to be 40 mph winds I would have tied it down with more than just stakes at the corners.
 

golgiaparatus

Out of my element
Aug 30, 2002
7,340
41
Deep in the Jungles of Oklahoma
SkaredShtles said:
Was their tent oriented differently than yours? Tent pitch orientation is very important if there is a storm involved......

Problem is, it's only a guess as to where the worst wind will come from when you *DO* set the tent up.

Here is an example of proper orientation:

:eek:

-S.S.-
That pic is phucking sweet!

No, the guys next to me had a more low profile tent and luckily they had a car parked infront of the wind. I wasnt the only one with a folded tent, thats for sure. There was a giant shelter with steel legs that apparently blew over in one of the campsites... they said they had it tied down with 6 huge stakes and rope.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
67,785
14,144
In a van.... down by the river
golgiaparatus said:
That pic is phucking sweet!

No, the guys next to me had a more low profile tent and luckily they had a car parked infront of the wind. I wasnt the only one with a folded tent, thats for sure. There was a giant shelter with steel legs that apparently blew over in one of the campsites... they said they had it tied down with 6 huge stakes and rope.
Ahh, yes. Tent design (profile), windbreaks, etc. - all important. My mountaineering tent has 6 stake points on the tent, 4 more independent on the fly, and is a raked design. You just gotta guess right as to where the wind is *going* to come from - and I'm not too good at that. :D

-S.S.-
 

Repack

Turbo Monkey
Nov 29, 2001
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SkaredShtles said:
Ahh, yes. Tent design (profile), windbreaks, etc. - all important. My mountaineering tent has 6 stake points on the tent, 4 more independent on the fly, and is a raked design. You just gotta guess right as to where the wind is *going* to come from - and I'm not too good at that. :D

-S.S.-
My 4 season tent has 11 stake point. Thank god I've never had to use them all. I actually haven't used that tent in years. Its low-profile (advertising word for shaped like a mummy bag and not much bigger) and not free standing. Plus there is no mesh. Good for winter but a sweat box for the rest of the year.
 

-BB-

I broke all the rules, but somehow still became mo
Sep 6, 2001
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Repack said:
My feeling as well. But I (Mr. Kettle) should not talk too much smack about Golgi (Mr. Pot) because I too have been soaked!
You live and learn!

PS-Does your tent fly come all the way down the the ground? Also, I have found that the instructions included with many tents do not tell you the best method for setting it up. My directions said to stake everything first, then set up the poles. I can never get a tent to tension correctly doing it that way. One of the reasons I bought a full-sized air mattress was to keep me off the ground if it did rain. Any pics of the kind of tent you were using?

But at least the most important supplies stayed dry!

LOL... He called Golgi "Mr.Pot"

How appropriate. :thumb: ;)
 

golgiaparatus

Out of my element
Aug 30, 2002
7,340
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Deep in the Jungles of Oklahoma
Repack said:
My 4 season tent has 11 stake point. Thank god I've never had to use them all. I actually haven't used that tent in years. Its low-profile (advertising word for shaped like a mummy bag and not much bigger) and not free standing. Plus there is no mesh. Good for winter but a sweat box for the rest of the year.
My tent is a very ventilated, tall, 2 pole dome tent with only 4 stake points not counting if you run line from 4 points that it has further up on the tent into stakes further. My tent was not made for this kind of weather.

My old 1 person backpacking tent would have held. It was low, aerodynamic had only 2 small mesh windows for ventilation, 6 stakepoints, and 3 poles.
 

Repack

Turbo Monkey
Nov 29, 2001
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Boston Area
golgiaparatus said:
My tent is a very ventilated, tall, 2 pole dome tent with only 4 stake points not counting if you run line from 4 points that it has further up on the tent into stakes further. My tent was not made for this kind of weather.

My old 1 person backpacking tent would have held. It was low, aerodynamic had only 2 small mesh windows for ventilation, 6 stakepoints, and 3 poles.
Ahh. Well, if you are looking for a new tent (sounds like you might be!), I highly recomend the EMS Scout XL. I bought mine on sale for $140. It sleeps like 6 I think, but I bought it b/c I can just about stand up in it. I was so sick of domes that my #1 priority was something that I could stand up in. Its listed as being 5'8" inside. Its a little heavy, but only used for car camping. I have had it in some pretty fierce weather without any issues. It has 4 stake points plus 2 guy lines.
 

RhinofromWA

Brevity R Us
Aug 16, 2001
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Lynnwood, WA
Repack said:
Ahh. Well, if you are looking for a new tent (sounds like you might be!), I highly recomend the EMS Scout XL. I bought mine on sale for $140. It sleeps like 6 I think, but I bought it b/c I can just about stand up in it. I was so sick of domes that my #1 priority was something that I could stand up in. Its listed as being 5'8" inside. Its a little heavy, but only used for car camping. I have had it in some pretty fierce weather without any issues. It has 4 stake points plus 2 guy lines.
Coleman! :D

Memorial dayweekend it Poured and I stayed dry. It wasn't windy (I was in the trees) but it poured all night to the point I was scared. My old tent leaked...this was a fairly new tent and never seen this type of weather.

It is 7'x7' 2 pole with a tarp bottom that goes 6-12 inches up the sides. I can't quite stand up in it but it is fairly tall (much more than my old dome) and the rain fly goes all the way to the tarp on the sides with a rope to stake pulling it out to allow drain off. it stakes at the corners but I have nver need to stake it down. A 7' long 4" tall foam pad to sleep on mygear bag and a cooler if I am worried has kept all of my tents down....my big tool box if I am really nervous :D Oh it also has the speed clips so you don't have to feed that damn pole as far and it fits into the stale pockets easier.

My tent cost like $40-50 bucks and I am really happy. IT IS NOT A PACKING TENT....don't let me misslead you...it is a car camping tent. I wouldn't want to lug that thing around. :)

I really like my tent....incase you couldn't figure that out. :D
 

Repack

Turbo Monkey
Nov 29, 2001
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Boston Area
EMS no longer has my tent on their site. Its a 3 pole dome. 2 of the poles share diagnal corners to flatten the roof a bit, with one pole going avross the other diagnal. The fly also has a pole. Not trying to say that its the greatest ever, only that it has never failed me. Better than that, its kept me dry when I expected to get wet.
 

mealsonwheels

Monkey
Jan 16, 2003
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San Diego
golgiaparatus said:
My tent is a very ventilated, tall, 2 pole dome tent with only 4 stake points not counting if you run line from 4 points that it has further up on the tent into stakes further. My tent was not made for this kind of weather.

My old 1 person backpacking tent would have held. It was low, aerodynamic had only 2 small mesh windows for ventilation, 6 stakepoints, and 3 poles.

2 pole design is definitely the problem. My 3 season The North Face tent is now 10 years old and has withheld crazy wind in the high desert, snow and rain storms. I've always sworn by TNF, mtn. hardware, and marmot.
 

golgiaparatus

Out of my element
Aug 30, 2002
7,340
41
Deep in the Jungles of Oklahoma
RhinofromWA said:
If you aren't claustrophobic(sp?) before sleeping in one of those....;)

You will be!

Rhino"no straight jackets"fromWA
I dig that little tent... crazy wind... BAM collapsed in 2 seconds. I bet it sets up super fast too... only problem is, I dont see a floor, whats up with that?

All of the tents on that site are top notch :thumb: :thumb:

[edit: oh you were talking about a bivy... I've used one in Ark one winter when it got super cold, it was cool, the one I was in had a little window :D so you could see if a bear was about to eat you like a twinkie :thumb:]