[Pow pow]

I have been looking for some photos of the new Iron horse downhill bike that the madcatz team is riding but can find nothing at all

It is probably to do with my rubbishness at looking though so does anyone out there have any pics of it? The more detailed the better.

 

[Acadian]

 

[Pow pow]

Thanks dude

Is the shock mounted on the lower of the 2 linkage plates as well as the top?
Or am I being a bit stupid and it is mounted on the main frame.

 

[Bacardi]

I like how they put the bottom shock mount inside a big bearing (for less wear on the mount). Looks like it might have a pretty low COG considering it places the shock vertical.

 

[Slugman]

Damn that looks nice ... is that a VPP style suspension?

I may just have to retire my '00 G-Spot.

Do you have any specs (i.e weight, cost, when availible, etc)?

 

[Pow pow]

I am fairly sure they will be the DH bike in the 05 iron horse line up.
It is something I will definatly consider, especially if IH keep their low prices on full bikes next year, the SGS bikes are really good deals just now

 

[math2014]

hmm IH vpp

 

[Pow pow]

It is a sort of VPP, in that it will have a virtual pivot point, but it is not the vpp used by SC and Intense

 

[Acadian]

I'm sure Ska Todd will chime in soon with more info on the 05 DW IH DH bike

 

[Pow pow]

I'm sure Ska Todd will chime in soon with more info on the 05 DW IH DH bike

Thats sort of why I posted it here, I know a couple of the guys from IH post on here.
It will be intresting to hear what they have to say about it and why they chose to move away from the FSR linkage.

 

[Acadian]

I would give some info...but I rather it come from the horse's mouth!!

 

[math2014]

So whats the difference to this design in comparison with the VPP from SC and Intense?

 

[jon-boy]

Rear axle path will be different. That's what the SC and Intense VPP bikes have patented. As long as this is a different axle path then it's all good.

 

[binary visions]

It's only similar to VPP in that it uses a solid rear end pivoting on two linkage plates.

Karpiel, Canfield, DW-link, VPP... They're all completely different suspension designs, but they all look very similar. Think about how many possible axle paths the two linkage plates would allow you to have. And, of course, those different paths will allow a lot of different suspension characteristics.

I imagine once DW has his patent(s), we won't be able to shut him up about it - not that it's a bad thing!

 

[OGRipper]

Well, for one thing, the SC/Intense VPP linkages pivot in opposing directions.

 

[greenreese]

"It will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine."

 

[Smelly]

I'm sure Ska Todd will chime in soon with more info on the 05 DW IH DH bike

they should name it that. new in the '05 lineup: the DWIHDH

 

[kidwoo]

they should name it that. new in the '05 lineup: the DWIHDH

Whoa flashback. My skateboard friends and I used to call each other dwids when we were 14. Based on that and that alone I may have to buy a bike that bears that moniker.

 

[Incubus]

You can get an idea of what the pricing will be on a thread over on hcor. The US made framekit (includes: shock (5th IIRC) e13 reducer cups, bb and hub I think. Maybe some other stuff too) will retail for $2200. The complete bikes will have taiwanese made made frames and the price will reflect it.

The other buzz is that it has a low bb height. Somewhere under 14".

 

[ska todd]

Hey everyone...I am up at the Mt Snow NCS right now.

There is a bunch of info over in the hcor DH forum on the frame. I'll try to answer some more questions when I get back next week b/c the dialup connection here is slooooowwww.

-ska todd

 

[Orvan]

Hey everyone...I am up at the Mt Snow NCS right now.

There is a bunch of info over in the hcor DH forum on the frame. I'll try to answer some more questions when I get back next week b/c the dialup connection here is slooooowwww.

-ska todd

and maybe you can get to my 2 week old PM.. if not, it's coo too!

 

[Acadian]

Ok here is some info about the 05 IH bike. Keep in mind that the production version will look a bit different than the one in the pic.

The US production bikes will be in your choice of black magic pearl, jazz blue (like nogaro blue w/o the pearl), and imola yellow

Frames will have a US retail of $2200 w/ a Progressive shock, DT/Hugi hub, Thomson post, e13 cups, & FSA Orbit Carbon headset. The US made frames will have a proprietary tubeset.

Date: Target is October.

 

[Turley]

Whats a proprietary tubeset?

 

[endtroducing]

The US production bikes will be in your choice of black magic pearl, jazz blue (like nogaro blue w/o the pearl), and imola yellow

someone at IH likes them some dubs

 

[Incubus]

someone at IH likes them some dubs

Yessir. By the looks of another pic that Ska Todd posted, he has himself a Jazz Blue 20th.

 

[TWISTED]

Ooohhh!!!!, I hate keeping secrets
I think it's officially called Iron Horse DW DH.
DW's a smart guy, he knows his sheut.
Hey SkaTodd, it's Tim from you know where. neaky:

 

[dw]

The new Iron Horse downhill bike is a DW-LINK design. There is a huge amount of info about dw-link on this site. I am sure that it could be found wth the search function. You can read more about dw-link system at www.dw-link.com. Actually we will be updating the dw-link site with a lot of info very soon due to all of the DH bike race wins lately. The new prototype bikes have been raced to spots on every NORBA and World Cup podium so far this year. I dont know if thats some kind of record or not, but its damn cool!

Later!

Dave

 

[thaflyinfatman]

I heard it was flexy.

 

[DHracer1067]

how much travel does it have

 

[Acadian]

how much travel does it have

8" I believe.?

 

[binary visions]

8" I believe.?

That's what everything I've read so far has said...

 

[dw]

The new bike has 8" of rear wheel travel. There have not been any pictures of the new frame released yet. The pictures above are of a 2nd generation, Alpha prototype frame that was designed to be built with conventional manufacturing methods for rapid prototyping.

The production bikes / current prototypes are pretty different looking, and pretty sexy!

dw

 

[binary visions]

The production bikes / current prototypes are pretty different looking, and pretty sexy!

Sexy AND functional.. DW, you crazy bastard, you. Really reaching for the stars on this one eh??

 

[dw]

Sexy AND functional.. DW, you crazy bastard, you. Really reaching for the stars on this one eh??

I really tried! This bike has been in the works since 2001, so I had some time to think about it.

 

[binary visions]

I really tried! This bike has been in the works since 2001, so I had some time to think about it.

Do you stroke your frame lovingly and whisper "yessss, my precioussss..." to it?

This may or may not have been brought up but is there a target production frame weight (for the US-made frameset)? I couldn't find it if it was.

 

[dw]

Sure, sometimes I do that!

The USA frame weight, with shock, should be in the 10s

Dave

 

[ska todd]

The production bikes / current prototypes are pretty different looking, and pretty sexy!

from fattirefotos.com

-ska todd

 

[biggins]

damn that bike is bad ass. i think i have found a new ride as soon as they come up at a sreamin deal. or used.

 

[Acadian]

from fattirefotos.com

-ska todd

meh....
from www.164productions.com

 

[RaID]

Whats a proprietary tubeset?

custom sized tubing i believe correct me if im wrong