[Electric_City]

I was looking at the 2017 Spartan and can't help but notice Devinci's love for sram/RS as NONE of their bikes come with Fox, Shimano, Raceface...

The Spartan is set up 1x something and I noticed that their Marshall had a square seat tube by the bb, a press fit bb and ISCG tabs. That leaves nowhere for a FD. Devinci replied to my email saying that you can't mount one. But doesn't Shimano still do front derailleurs yet?

Who makes a bike like the Spartan/Nomad that can accommodate a FD or is devinci the only one to completely eliminate it?

 

[slimshady]

Are you looking for crabon or alu? The Orbea Rallon still accepts a high mount FD, the Canyon Strive takes a low E2 FD, and I think the new Special Ed Enduro does it too.

 

[Electric_City]

I've never had carbon before so I'm interested in trying it. But that won't be the determining factor.

 

[kidwoo]

A norco range or turner rfx will take one. There are tons of others. Just don't look at santa cruz or devinci maybe.

 

[Dogboy]

The Spartan will accept a high direct mount FD. The Nomad won't take a FD, but at 'Woo mentioned there are lots of other bike that will.

 

[Electric_City]

Interesting... This is the email I received

"Many thanks for your interest in Devinci Cycles and the Spartan,

No, a front derailleur can’t be mounted.

As for the coil, there should be no problem. We haven’t test it, but some people ride theirs with a rockshox vivid and it fits perfectly.

Unfortunately, these are the only two colors available for 2017.

Hope this helps,"

Have a good day!

 

[Dogboy]

Interesting... This is the email I received

"Many thanks for your interest in Devinci Cycles and the Spartan,

No, a front derailleur can’t be mounted.

As for the coil, there should be no problem. We haven’t test it, but some people ride theirs with a rockshox vivid and it fits perfectly.

Unfortunately, these are the only two colors available for 2017.

Hope this helps,"

Have a good day!

That's certainly a strange reply. The Spartan will be the next bike in their line to get an update/overhaul and I expect it may do away with a FD option. Wonder if that's where the confusion was or if you just got bad info?

 

[jonKranked]

what do front der's have to do with endurbros?

and how is it news that the bike industry is moving away from front ders? this has been happening for years.

 

[slimshady]

Interesting... This is the email I received

"Many thanks for your interest in Devinci Cycles and the Spartan,

No, a front derailleur can’t be mounted.

As for the coil, there should be no problem. We haven’t test it, but some people ride theirs with a rockshox vivid and it fits perfectly.

Unfortunately, these are the only two colors available for 2017.

Hope this helps,"

Have a good day!

This image from their website begs to differ:

 

[slimshady]

That's certainly a strange reply. The Spartan will be the next bike in their line to get an update/overhaul and I expect it may do away with a FD option. Wonder if that's where the confusion was or if you just got bad info?

I too think they mistakenly talked about the next generation Spartan in their answer.

 

[Dogboy]

Here's one with one of those strange devices you speak of mounted.

 

[Udi]

I really wanted to like that bike but the frame weighs a tonne even in carbon guise. I forget exactly how much now but it made me cross it off the list (was picking a bike for a friend). Just a heads up for anyone looking into it in case you make the assumption that carbon = light.

Not to say it's bad - maybe designed for heavier use etc. Just caught me by surprise.

 

[Electric_City]

You're right that Devinci doesn't make the lightest bikes out there. But that's why I personally like them. They're not cutting corners and trying to make it pass the showroom weight test. We joke about the "looks flexy" stuff, but I can't ride a Giant cause I flex the frame too much for my liking and they just don't fit me right. I can lose weight for sure, so a bike that's 4lbs heavier won't turn me away. I've broken plenty of chainstays on my favorite bike cough, cough, trek, cough... 4 frames later and their light weight, hydroformed, 7 series alpha aluminum, nuclear dynamic, proton tested, bike with 4 different BB standards (on the same frame!) won't hold up to me. I just want reliability.
Devinci still list their weights online for some reason. I know some years ago that Special Ed and Trek stopped listing it cause they didn't want people to judge the bike online and choose one from that specific factor.
I do get what you're saying though.

 

[Udi]

Well hey, if you've sussed it out and the numbers work for you then sweet.

I personally like the kinematics on that frame much more than many others so if the weight isn't a dealbreaker and there's a size that fits, then it's probably a really good choice.

 

[Metamorphic]

Banshee Rune

 

[Happymtb.fr]

The Spartan is:
WEIGHT* 3.36 KG / 7.41 LBS
*For a size medium complete frameset, weight approximate and subject to change.

According to Damien Oton, there will be a new frame coming soon, check his interview on PB for details...

 

[FlipSide]

Regarding the weight of the Devinci, it must be noted that they also have a lifetime warranty. For reliability purposes, they are probably slightly more overbuilt than your average ultralight dentist-rated frames.

 

[Udi]

Regarding the weight of the Devinci, it must be noted that they also have a lifetime warranty. For reliability purposes, they are probably slightly more overbuilt than your average ultralight dentist-rated frames.

Giant also have a lifetime warranty and I've seen way less broken than Devincis here. Santa Cruz frames are also very light and very durable (even though I am not a huge fan of the kinematics). In fact the "lifetime warranty" carbon Wilsons have been breaking notoriously regularly lately, so to assume great warranty = great durability is hardly correct. 3.36kg for a carbon enduro frame is quite heavy if we are being objective. A carbon Reign in medium is 2.48kg IIRC.

If we want to argue stiffness, there are alloy frames that cost a lot less, are very stiff, and come in at around the same 3.2-3.4kg weight. Good engineering is making something strong and light, and making something heavier doesn't necessarily make it stronger either.

Like I said the Devinci frames (especially the Spartan) have very good kinematics, I do think it is a great bike based on that, and by the sounds it would suit the OP's requirements - but I think it's important to be realistic.