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Adventurous

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The ongoing compendium for anything and everything archery.

For 2024:
- arrows were refletched with 2" Blazers with a 1* helical
- swapped out my 3/16" peep for a 1/4"

Outside of gear, I've been shooting ~100 arrows per week. Working on my form and maintaining back pressure, as that has been one of my biggest faults.

33 yards:
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40 yards:
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Need to take this game to the 3D course and see how well it translates.
 

gonefirefightin

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Not sure I will get to fling any sticks this year as I missed the draw deadline, will be building the house and dont really care to join the mob of road hunters during general season. I did how ever find my bow and targets in storage but I doubt I have less than 6 arrows on the quiver. I guess I could order up another free set of strings as is the annual tradition with my manufacturer. I believe my time will be better suited on the boat fishing and crabbing to fill the freezer unless I find an easy tag, may be able to get a cow tag for late season.
 

Adventurous

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I pretty reliably pull 2 antlered and 2 antlerless tags per year and pretty reliably full none of them. Regardless, the deer aren't stupid, as soon as hunting season comes they migrate onto private land. It ain't easy. Last season I saw precisely 0 deer while in the woods, they were all in the road on the way to the hunt spot. :rofl:
 
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I pretty reliably pull 2 antlered and 2 antlerless tags per year and pretty reliably full none of them. Regardless, the deer aren't stupid, as soon as hunting season comes they migrate onto private land. It ain't easy. Last season I saw precisely 0 deer while in the woods, they were all in the road on the way to the hunt spot. :rofl:
Growing up a herd of deer would materialize in the back yard during hunting season, the safety of private land and a giant apple tree to get fat off of.
We received several cash offers from hunters but the parents surprisingly always refused. They weren't against hunting but in that location hunters did not have the reputation of being respectful, responsible or being very bright and they feared word getting out of it being a free for all and the dog getting blasted.
 

boostindoubles

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My friend told me once he was driving through the forest the night after hunting season closed. He said all the forest animals were partying in the road at 3am.
 

Adventurous

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@gonefirefightin, I'd appreciate your thoughts on fletching schemes.

Current setup:
3 x 2" Blazers @ 1* helical. 400 spine Gold Tip Hunter XT arrows, aluminum insert, 100 grain field tips and 100 grain fixed broadheads. 65 lb draw weight and 27" draw length.

Typically, I don't shoot beyond 30 yards in hunting scenarios, but will go out to 60 for practice.

Are 2" vanes @ 1* enough to stabilize a fixed broadhead? Should I be exploring a 2.5" vane or maybe an increased helical? My arrows are fairly light at the moment and chrono at 295 FPS at last check, so I have a little speed to burn if there's significant accuracy to be gained. This is all for whitetail, so neither speed nor weight are paramount to success. FOC is within range, per Archer's Advantage, though a little towards the low end.

Just wondering if I'm giving anything up with my current setup or if there's something to be gained by exploring other configurations.
 

gonefirefightin

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@gonefirefightin, I'd appreciate your thoughts on fletching schemes.

Current setup:
3 x 2" Blazers @ 1* helical. 400 spine Gold Tip Hunter XT arrows, aluminum insert, 100 grain field tips and 100 grain fixed broadheads. 65 lb draw weight and 27" draw length.

Typically, I don't shoot beyond 30 yards in hunting scenarios, but will go out to 60 for practice.

Are 2" vanes @ 1* enough to stabilize a fixed broadhead? Should I be exploring a 2.5" vane or maybe an increased helical? My arrows are fairly light at the moment and chrono at 295 FPS at last check, so I have a little speed to burn if there's significant accuracy to be gained. This is all for whitetail, so neither speed nor weight are paramount to success. FOC is within range, per Archer's Advantage, though a little towards the low end.

Just wondering if I'm giving anything up with my current setup or if there's something to be gained by exploring other configurations.
Paper tuning and slow-mo from your phone will tell you what you need honestly. Arrow recipes are so vast and specific to so many things, draw length, ferrule weight, tip weight, draw weight, let off etc.

Anytime I change a single part of the recipe I go through the same process but vary in depth when changing arrow shafts but I also only use specific tips now. For example, (for me) the montec G5 broadheads will fly exactly the same as the same weight of field points so I dont have to change a thing when going from 3D tournaments to hunts, just swap the head and the pins are all still the same. But the fletching will act differently with both tips so I tried several different fletching options to find the best paper tune and flight dynamic when leaving the bow.

I have found blazers to be best for short range pokes at best and have been finding the 4-6 inch low profile fletchings to provide the most stable flight in wind and longer pokes. All of this came about when our local club posted they were going to have a 120 Sasquatch gong and I got cracking in the range while there was still snow on the ground, BUT........none of it will make a difference if your shafts arent splined, and recipes dialed from the start. I haven't changed my recipe in the last few years because I haven't changed an ingredient yet and am still running my Prime CT5. When I change the bow I will start over again with several different shafts, ferrules, and fletching and simply build a dozen arrows of all different combos and start with the one that provides the best repeatable results then breakdown that shaft and fletching further to tighten the results.

Ive found when you are taking a poke over 100 you really get a good look at the flight and its stability that paper and slomo cant really translate in the shop.

Right now I am running a Prime CT5 at 85lbs at 10% with micro shaft arrow shafts, running whisker a biscuit for retention, my inserts are one piece collared so they protect the carbon shaft better but also transfer bone hits down the shaft better and tend to add a bit more forward weight when flying, I will direct fletch with no wraps and run a 5" low pro vane with a pretty tight helix and whisker biscuit to get the shaft spinning quickly so the arrow has more stability in the first 25 yards to prevent the bucking and wobble. Nocks don't affect the flying performance so that is up to the shooter. Hope that helps
 
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Adventurous

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I posted about it here (https://ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/fletching-jigs.296379/), but the time has come to get a fletching jig, for real. I've had to sideline 4 arrows in the past 2 weeks for lost fletchings. I've only got 7 more in the practice queue, and based on that sideline rate, I'll be down again in another month.

So, given that I can't exactly be making 2 (45 minutes each way) trips a month to the shop, I shall order a Bitzenberger in left helical. Already have some glue and 3" vanes on the way.

Question is, do I order up some Victory VAP TKOs with Iron Will inserts/impact collars to go with it... :confused: Might do RIP TKOs instead though, there's more flexibility there for getting weight up front.
 
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Adventurous

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Final Spec for 2024 hunting arrows:

Gold Tip Hunter XT, 340 spine @ 27"
50 grain aluminum insert
100 grain broadhead (TBD)
4" wrap
3 x 3" Bohning X-vanes
Gold Tip nock bushing with Easton G-nocks

Should end up around 450 grains (12% FOC) at 275 FPS.

Broadhead still TBD. I've shot NAP thunderheads but am by no means in love with them. I'll grab a few and do a bit of arrow/broadhead tuning.

This shall obviously require re-establishing my yardages, but so be it.