Didn't those SC Bullits have something like a 23" BB?
Mine. . Wasn't low, but it wasn't absurdly high either.
Didn't those SC Bullits have something like a 23" BB?
Obviously, you guys never rode over a 24" rock.
The Santa Cruz online bike configuration tool wasted a lot of time for me around 1999.
Rented a Heckler while in Colorado away from my Trek 6000 (with sun rhyno lites and riser bars...occasionally bar ends...) and thought it was the BEST THING EVER.
Used to want the orange-ano Superlight. And/or the Heckler in bare ball-burnished AL front triangle with the swingarm in safety orange. Considered Bullit with the same.
And I've still never owned an orange bike. (Wait, no! I had an OG Surly Instigator in orange powder, as they all were, and put a Marzo Jr T up front. Ovalized the headtube.)
Every early shock that I owned wore out bushings with great enthusiasm.Superlight was my first FS bike. That rear end flexed all over the place, the shock was a key structural member for lateral rigidity. Wore out a set of bushing about once a month and a shock body every 18 months or so. But it was a fun bike and a hell of a lot better than a lot of the other junk that was floating around at the time.
I had zero gripes with the way they rode. Rear end flexed a little but light and better kinematics than most. The moto guys knew leverage ratios back then. The santa cruz guys, not so much. Nobody I knew didn't have one fail tho.The M1 is still one of the best bikes I ever rode, I ended up getting another one in 2003. I switched from a Shiver to a Boxxer in 2003 and that made a big difference in the ride of the bike.
yeah it cracks me up how everyone thinks those bikes were trash just because bender turned them into trash when he built them upMy Heckler and Straight 6 never got away because I couldn’t sell them in good conscience, so I still have them haha
@kidwoo My buddy in Durango way back had a real nice Armageddon in low and slack mode with 9 inches out back and that thing was so much better than my Straight 6 or Foes DHS Mono pre curnutt 2:1. His bike was so progressive and plush. We rode in Telluride a bunch together back then.
sure we didObviously, you guys never rode over a 24" rock.
That shock is 1/4 the length of the bike!
and probably weighs the same as the frameThat shock is 1/4 the length of the bike!
the fact that the technology completely took over mountainbiking with multiple patent licenses across manufacturers, and the fact that literally all mountainbikes are now AWD should tell you the answer to your questionAnyone ever ride a Christini AWD bike? Was always curious to see if those lived up to the hype back in the late 90s; amazingly, they are still around today.
They make an ebike with that complicated driveshaft instead of putting a motor on the front wheel.the fact that the technology completely took over mountainbiking with multiple patent licenses across manufacturers, and the fact that literally all mountainbikes are now AWD should tell you the answer to your question
I actually rode one, maybe at Sea Otter or Interbike or something. I think the thing is...they do kind of work. It's just that they don't help you do anything that's actually worthwhile doing on a bicycle.the fact that the technology completely took over mountainbiking with multiple patent licenses across manufacturers, and the fact that literally all mountainbikes are now AWD should tell you the answer to your question
Honestly sorta surprised the fatbike kids haven't taken up the Christini AWD cause. Rode one a million years ago and it was very interesting, but unless you plan on riding loose sand or snow for a whole ride kinda worthless. That's where fatbikes come in...
I mean it's not like there's some other similar sport they could look to that also uses the rear wheel exclusively for drive, and determine a likely feasibility based on the adoption in that sportI actually rode one, maybe at Sea Otter or Interbike or something. I think the thing is...they do kind of work. It's just that they don't help you do anything that's actually worthwhile doing on a bicycle.
Intense cycles HQ:I had zero gripes with the way they rode. Rear end flexed a little but light and better kinematics than most. The moto guys knew leverage ratios back then. The santa cruz guys, not so much. Nobody I knew didn't have one fail tho.
Intense cycles HQ:
Random employee: Jeff, our frames are cracking.
Jeff: We could strengthen them....or....let me think....call them "for one race only".
RE: Do you think this is a smart idea?
Jeff: you are right, let us take the "one" out. For Racing Only (FRO) it is. Nobody needs too much honesty anyway.
RE: Great, I get the marekting campaign on the way.
Jeff: While we are at it, let us offer unpainted "works" frames...at the same price as painted ones.
RE: You are a genius, Jeff!
Yeah, but I do own Intense frames, so I am allowed to say that.See? You know what's up.
But when I say that shit it's all kIdWoO tHiNkS oNLy iNtEnSe fRaMeS bReAk!!!
I don't know if that was the brand, but in '92 I won an AWD bike (my first mountain bike) from 91x. It was cheap as shit. Cool idea, but the loud pop when the shaft was unwinding if you had the front or back brake on only. I moved to Portland and bought my first "proper" mountain bike, a Proflex 855.Anyone ever ride a Christini AWD bike? Was always curious to see if those lived up to the hype back in the late 90s; amazingly, they are still around today.
I owned 2 and learned my lessonYeah, but I do own Intense frames, so I am allowed to say that.
What you did on your Uzzi was damn impressive!I owned 2 and learned my lesson
The part where where I made an angled brake mount to account for how much the splayed frame had to flex to bolt a rear wheel in was probably my biggest accomishment.What you did on your Uzzi was damn impressive!
You mean when the whole industry was about military grade this, stealth that, aircraft approved, space,.... to sound cool?Seriously, the part where they named most of their bikes after guns should probably have been a tip-off to their general maturity and depth of thought.
IMO there is quite a difference between bragging about your materials engineering vs. pretending your frame is equivalent to a machine for killing people.You mean when the whole industry was about military grade this, stealth that, aircraft approved, space,.... to sound cool?
I think you are reading too much into this. There are a bunch of names that are bad. In Germany all the abbreviations for singlespeed or slopestyle are not received well. RM Slayer, all the Cove bike names, etc.. Many consider the naming of bikes and marketing of GG imature too.IMO there is quite a difference between bragging about your materials engineering vs. pretending your frame is equivalent to a machine for killing people.
Seat angle approvedI just found this on craiglist
searching for 'sick dh bike with bar ends, reflectors and frame pump'
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I am maybe selling mine...maybe...YBBBEAt!
Those things are cool. If I find a cheap one I'm buying it (been saying that for 25 years)