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The Political Compass Revisited

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Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
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Feeling the lag
For comparison here is the international version from the political compass website: (Note the scale is different, this is up to 10 in each axis, the one above was to 8 for reasons of apathy):
 

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zod

Turbo Monkey
Jul 17, 2003
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G-County, NC
I know....I'm crazy like that. I'm thinking about staying up until 10PM tonight and watching the late news!!!!!
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
40,210
9,104
Originally posted by fluff
Because I'm a little board today I plotted the positions of those who posted their political compass results:
cool. just call me the dalai lama from now, eh :D . plus i seem to share closest-political-views-to-fluff co-honors.
 

El Jefe

Dr. Phil Jefe
Nov 26, 2001
793
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OC in SoCal
Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15


Good test. It nailed me exactly. Right down the middle on my economic policy and very much a social Libertarian.
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
40,210
9,104
fluff, can you find the correlation between age (beyond age 18) and the two measured axes here? :D if you're really bored, that is...

as a data point, i am 4 years beyond age 18...
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.44

Maybe Fluff will be kind enough to update his chart for the first post with the new posters' numbers?
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
Originally posted by Toshi
fluff, can you find the correlation between age (beyond age 18) and the two measured axes here? :D if you're really bored, that is...

as a data point, i am 4 years beyond age 18...
if he can find the time, I'd suggest using a "temperature" system on the 2-D plot.
 

fluff

Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
5,673
2
Feeling the lag
Originally posted by Toshi
fluff, can you find the correlation between age (beyond age 18) and the two measured axes here? :D if you're really bored, that is...

as a data point, i am 4 years beyond age 18...
I could (when I get another bored moment and feel like taking the fight to MS Excel again). I'd need to know everyone's ages though.

Oddly enough I remember hearing a long time ago that people generally become more right-wing as they get older. I seem to be heading the other way. (I am a lot further left at 38 than I was at 25.)
 

I Are Baboon

Vagina man
Aug 6, 2001
32,818
10,994
MTB New England
Originally posted by LordOpie
Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.44

Maybe Fluff will be kind enough to update his chart for the first post with the new posters' numbers?
Looks like me, you, and the Kegmaster are about the same, according to this fool proof, tell all chart. :)

BTW Fluff, nice job on the Monkey chart. Very interesting. Where N8's dot? :D
 

fluff

Monkey Turbo
Sep 8, 2001
5,673
2
Feeling the lag
Originally posted by I Are Baboon
Looks like me, you, and the Kegmaster are about the same, according to this fool proof, tell all chart. :)

BTW Fluff, nice job on the Monkey chart. Very interesting. Where N8's dot? :D
Well my scale only went up to 8...

I don't think N8 ever posted his numbers, I'm guessing he's somewhere out in the +7's?

Whaddya say N8?
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
21,022
3
Denver
oh, you know darn well N8 took the test and was embarrassed to find out that he's far more liberal than he wants to admit :devil:
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
6,254
878
Lima, Peru, Peru
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54

its about where i thought it was going to be.
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
6,254
878
Lima, Peru, Peru
Originally posted by fluff

Oddly enough I remember hearing a long time ago that people generally become more right-wing as they get older. I seem to be heading the other way. (I am a lot further left at 38 than I was at 25.)
hmm, i think it kinda depends where you start. i think is the older the more center-wing you get.
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
6,254
878
Lima, Peru, Peru
Originally posted by Toshi
fluff, can you find the correlation between age (beyond age 18) and the two measured axes here? :D if you're really bored, that is...

as a data point, i am 4 years beyond age 18...

maybe one as a function of IQ, to test stuart mill's idea.
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
40,210
9,104
Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
maybe one as a function of IQ, to test stuart mill's idea.
what's his idea?

fluff, i'd heard the same thing (in a slashdot signature quote actually :D), thus the desire for you to do the work so that i can see the results in lovely graphical form, heh
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
19,180
17
TN
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.08


Well, there's me:confused:
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
6,254
878
Lima, Peru, Peru
Originally posted by N8
Actually not.
i think John stuart mill was right.

this was discussed among the faculty of Duke University. Why aren't many republican professors? was a complain from some republican students.

the philosophy chair mentioned stupidity is not a common thing in academia. and then quoted JSM as a response.
if most conservative are stupid, and professors are usually smart. both groups should not overlap that much. makes sense.

2nd. the most republican states, are usually the ones with the lowest education levels and the lowest SAT scores.
not a causality thing, but an interesting coincidence nonetheless.

but i think JSM idea does not work very good in both extremes of the liberal and conservative ends. (the 5% end of each i would guess).

Milton Friedman being an extremely smart economic conservative, and Ernesto Guevara being and extremely stupid liberal are some point way out of the league.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
19,180
17
TN
Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
i think John stuart mill was right.

this was discussed among the faculty of Duke University. Why aren't many republican professors? was a complain from some republican students.

the philosophy chair mentioned stupidity is not a common thing in academia. and then quoted JSM as a response.
if most conservative are stupid, and professors are usually smart. both groups dont overlap that much. makes sense.

2nd. the most republican states, are usually the ones with the lowest education levels and the lowest SAT scores.
not a causality thing, but an interesting coincidence nonetheless.

but i think JSM idea does not work very good in both extremes of the liberal and conservative ends.

Milton Friedman being an extremely smart economic conservative, and Ernesto Guevara being and extremely stupid liberal.
take that for what its worth.

who are the ones with the most money?:)
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
6,254
878
Lima, Peru, Peru
am not very familiar with the US sociodemographic profile of voters, but seems to me, as far as i can tell, against what i listen around here in the south.

In 2000, the voters in 17 out of 25 of the nation's most affluent counties -- all with high percentages of people with advanced degrees -- cast majorities for Al Gore, sometimes by more than 70 percent.

In nine out of the 10 poorest counties in Kentucky, for example, places where the Democratic Party of Harry S. Truman ran roughshod over Republican adversaries, George W. Bush won, frequently by margins the mirror image of Gore's in the nation's richest and best educated counties.

seems its against common sense, and against what u'd expect, poors voting for those who favor the poor, and rich voting for those who favor the rich.

think voting republican has little to do with economics, and more to do with cultural affairs.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
19,180
17
TN
Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH


think voting republican has little to do with economics, and more to do with cultural affairs.
did you come up with that all by yourself?
 

golgiaparatus

Out of my element
Aug 30, 2002
7,340
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Deep in the Jungles of Oklahoma
Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.
Me thinks it is easier to be conservative... takes less thought. Seems to me a lot of conservatives are followers... have a problem forming their own opinions and standing up for them, conservatives are also usually more afraid of change, takes a lot of effort and though to change.
 

RhinofromWA

Brevity R Us
Aug 16, 2001
4,622
0
Lynnwood, WA
Originally posted by golgiaparatus
takes a lot of effort and though to change.
That, or Dem's have short attention spans and are easily persuaded....;)

Dumb can be found on both sides....just your side seems smart 'cause they agree with your dumb ideas :D

Bubba smash rocks...

Biff smash rocks too...

Biff is smart like Bubba.

lol! I made a funny. :) If even only funny to me.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
Originally posted by golgiaparatus
Me thinks it is easier to be conservative... takes less thought. Seems to me a lot of conservatives are followers... have a problem forming their own opinions and standing up for them, conservatives are also usually more afraid of change, takes a lot of effort and though to change.
so, if i were to cave to the overwhelming liberal positions on this forum, i'm ceasing my efforts to resist - i start following you - i take opinions doled out to me - and i've thusly changed. This conversion makes me....let's see...conservative? wtf?

how brave of you to make such a brazen claim here in this last bastion of liberal minions.

feh!
 

RhinofromWA

Brevity R Us
Aug 16, 2001
4,622
0
Lynnwood, WA
Originally posted by fluff
For comparison here is the international version from the political compass website: (Note the scale is different, this is up to 10 in each axis, the one above was to 8 for reasons of apathy):
Did those people ever take the test? :D