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http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml

Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include:

* Fear and aggression
* Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
* Uncertainty avoidance
* Need for cognitive closure
* Terror management

Tolerance for inequality, hahah sounds about right to me.

 

[valve bouncer]

This survey is obviously bunk as it forgot to include;
- chronic bed-wetting
- miniscule penis size
- short-man syndrome
which all are frother identifiers.

 

[BurlyShirley]

LOL!
UC Berkeley does a study on "conservative psychology"

Next I want to see Liberty University's latest take on evolution or global warming.

 

[Samirol]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375_pf.html

In experiments conducted by political scientist John Bullock at Yale University, volunteers were given various items of political misinformation from real life. One group of volunteers was shown a transcript of an ad created by NARAL Pro-Choice America that accused John G. Roberts Jr., President Bush's nominee to the Supreme Court at the time, of "supporting violent fringe groups and a convicted clinic bomber."

A variety of psychological experiments have shown that political misinformation primarily works by feeding into people's preexisting views. People who did not like Roberts to begin with, then, ought to have been most receptive to the damaging allegation, and this is exactly what Bullock found. Democrats were far more likely than Republicans to disapprove of Roberts after hearing the allegation.

Bullock then showed volunteers a refutation of the ad by abortion-rights supporters. He also told the volunteers that the advocacy group had withdrawn the ad. Although 56 percent of Democrats had originally disapproved of Roberts before hearing the misinformation, 80 percent of Democrats disapproved of the Supreme Court nominee afterward. Upon hearing the refutation, Democratic disapproval of Roberts dropped only to 72 percent.

Republican disapproval of Roberts rose after hearing the misinformation but vanished upon hearing the correct information. The damaging charge, in other words, continued to have an effect even after it was debunked among precisely those people predisposed to buy the bad information in the first place.

Bullock found a similar effect when it came to misinformation about abuses at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Volunteers were shown a Newsweek report that suggested a Koran had been flushed down a toilet, followed by a retraction by the magazine. Where 56 percent of Democrats had disapproved of detainee treatment before they were misinformed about the Koran incident, 78 percent disapproved afterward. Upon hearing the refutation, Democratic disapproval dropped back only to 68 percent -- showing that misinformation continued to affect the attitudes of Democrats even after they knew the information was false.

Bullock and others have also shown that some refutations can strengthen misinformation, especially among conservatives.

Political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler provided two groups of volunteers with the Bush administration's prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. One group was given a refutation -- the comprehensive 2004 Duelfer report that concluded that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction before the United States invaded in 2003. Thirty-four percent of conservatives told only about the Bush administration's claims thought Iraq had hidden or destroyed its weapons before the U.S. invasion, but 64 percent of conservatives who heard both claim and refutation thought that Iraq really did have the weapons. The refutation, in other words, made the misinformation worse.

A similar "backfire effect" also influenced conservatives told about Bush administration assertions that tax cuts increase federal revenue. One group was offered a refutation by prominent economists that included current and former Bush administration officials. About 35 percent of conservatives told about the Bush claim believed it; 67 percent of those provided with both assertion and refutation believed that tax cuts increase revenue.

In a paper approaching publication, Nyhan, a PhD student at Duke University, and Reifler, at Georgia State University, suggest that Republicans might be especially prone to the backfire effect because conservatives may have more rigid views than liberals: Upon hearing a refutation, conservatives might "argue back" against the refutation in their minds, thereby strengthening their belief in the misinformation. Nyhan and Reifler did not see the same "backfire effect" when liberals were given misinformation and a refutation about the Bush administration's stance on stem cell research.

Bullock, Nyhan and Reifler are all Democrats.

 

[JohnE]

This survey is obviously bunk as it forgot to include;
- chronic bed-wetting
- miniscule penis size
- short-man syndrome
which all are frother identifiers.

You forgot to include
- Mommy and Daddy left them a hoop of money
- Chronic hypocrisy
- Closeted sexual tendancies
- Fear of change and the unknown

 

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Georgia State University, suggest that Republicans might be especially prone to the backfire effect because conservatives may have more rigid views than liberals: Upon hearing a refutation, conservatives might "argue back" against the refutation in their minds, thereby strengthening their belief in the misinformation. Nyhan and Reifler did not see the same "backfire effect" when liberals were given misinformation and a refutation about the Bush administration's stance on stem cell research.

hahahahah

 

[manimal]

LOL!
UC Berkeley does a study on "conservative psychology"

Next I want to see Liberty University's latest take on evolution or global warming.

i was thinking the same thing. what's next, UCB's study on the physiological impact of killing in combat?

 

[Silver]

i was thinking the same thing. what's next, UCB's study on the physiological impact of killing in combat?

Hey, they have a war criminal on staff, cut them some slack.

http://www.law.berkeley.edu/faculty/yooj/

 

[curtix]

LOL!
UC Berkeley does a study on "conservative psychology"

Next I want to see Liberty University's latest take on evolution or global warming.

No bias or spin at all. Berkly > MSNBC.

 

[Samirol]

No bias or spin at all. Berkly > MSNBC.

hey, if you read the article, it openly admits to the bias, and it is just their findings

 

[rockwool]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375_pf.html

Thank you, now I understand why my spreading of information from the eyes of Cubans and Venezuelans have had little or no effect on people in this board. As long as the mass media is all corporate, and therefore naturally capitalist, there will be no democracy as long as no opposing view will ever have a chanse to affect peoples minds in an equal way.

 

[1453]

the Psych department at Cal is just pissed that the Engineering school gets all the money. Ah the sweet sound of whining from the people who can never get a job if not for these "research projects".

(I'm a grad student in the College of Eng. there)

oh yeah, why the sudden interest in a 5 year old press release(which can't even keep the format of dates consistent) that no one else bothered to take notice?

By Kathleen Maclay, Media Relations | 22 July 2003 (revised 7/25/03)

 

[X3pilot]

Thank you, now I understand why my spreading of information from the eyes of Cubans and Venezuelans have had little or no effect on people in this board. As long as the mass media is all corporate, and therefore naturally capitalist, there will be no democracy as long as no opposing view will ever have a chanse to affect peoples minds in an equal way.

I thought you lived in holland or Sweden or somewhere like that?

 

[Samirol]

I thought you lived in holland or Sweden or somewhere like that?

Awhile ago, he was showing alternative sources about South America, showing Venezuela and Cuba in a more positive light than American media

 

[curtix]

Thank you, now I understand why my spreading of information from the eyes of Cubans and Venezuelans have had little or no effect on people in this board. As long as the mass media is all corporate, and therefore naturally capitalist, there will be no democracy as long as no opposing view will ever have a chanse to affect peoples minds in an equal way.

Lets hope not, The American Dream - Is still real. I am living it.
I guess you want government censored, oops I mean run, media like in wonderful China - Land of the Free - FAIL.

 

[curtix]

Good ole Socialist! This is exactly where everyone should want to live.


Cuba has not ratified one of the key human rights treaties providing specific guarantees of civil and political rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), and thus has not ratified the Optional Protocol to the ICCPR, which would allow individual victims of human rights abuse to present claims before the United Nations Human Rights Committee. Cuba also is notably absent among those countries that have signed or ratified the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR), which guarantees trade union rights among others.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/cuba/Cuba996-02.htm

Rich People in Cuba - So many - The Poor there have it so good.
http://www.therealcuba.com/Poverty.htm

Wake the heck up man, and give up.

 

[Samirol]

Lets hope not, The American Dream - Is still real. I am living it.
I guess you want government censored, oops I mean run, media like in wonderful China - Land of the Free - FAIL.

Just because you are lucky enough to live it doesn't mean many are, it is a rarity in the U.S.

You will find that kind of poverty in the U.S as well, and Cuba is especially disadvantaged by being blockaded by an economic super power a stone's throw away from them. It would be a much different situation if the U.S would be willing to trade with them.

 

[JohnE]

Where is Rockwool when you need him?

 

[1453]

and Cuba is especially disadvantaged by being blockaded by an economic super power a stone's throw away from them. It would be a much different situation if the U.S would be willing to trade with them.

yeah, you are so right because there is no poverty in Mexico.

 

[X3pilot]

Where is Rockwool when you need him?

He's over in the Socialism will always fail post trying to answer one of my questions, I'll go get him....

 

[rockwool]

I thought you lived in holland or Sweden or somewhere like that?

Yeah and I'm passing knowledge around like a joint, doing the work that the fourth state power refuses to do..

Lets hope not, The American Dream - Is still real. I am living it.
I guess you want government censored, oops I mean run, media like in wonderful China - Land of the Free - FAIL.

You want proofs of how censorship works in western corporate media? Take a look at the pretty recent Russia-Gorgia thread and read all those various articles there, add the onesidedness of the EU and the US stance in this matter, and you will see how sensorship works in our courntries.

Good ole Socialist! This is exactly where everyone should want to live.


Cuba has not ratified one of the key human rights treaties providing specific guarantees of civil and political rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), and thus has not ratified the Optional Protocol to the ICCPR, which would allow individual victims of human rights abuse to present claims before the United Nations Human Rights Committee. Cuba also is notably absent among those countries that have signed or ratified the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR), which guarantees trade union rights among others.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/cuba/Cuba996-02.htm

Rich People in Cuba - So many - The Poor there have it so good.
http://www.therealcuba.com/Poverty.htm


Wake the heck up man, and give up.

HRW huh, what paper was that printed on, was it glared or does it actually remove the **** and not only smear it around the cheeks?

 

[Defenestrated]

Good ole Socialist! This is exactly where everyone should want to live.


Cuba has not ratified one of the key human rights treaties providing specific guarantees of civil and political rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), and thus has not ratified the Optional Protocol to the ICCPR, which would allow individual victims of human rights abuse to present claims before the United Nations Human Rights Committee. Cuba also is notably absent among those countries that have signed or ratified the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR), which guarantees trade union rights among others.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/cuba/Cuba996-02.htm

Rich People in Cuba - So many - The Poor there have it so good.
http://www.therealcuba.com/Poverty.htm

Wake the heck up man, and give up.

You heard it here first, Socialism is responsible for the lack of freedoms and civil rights in Cuba, not the authoritarian government.

WAKE UP GUYS!!1

 

[curtix]

You heard it here first, Socialism is responsible for the lack of freedoms and civil rights in Cuba, not the authoritarian government.

WAKE UP GUYS!!1

You all gonna just keep ignoring the poverty issue or is it even to obvious for you all.
See the link above you all must have missed it.

 

[curtix]

HRW huh, what paper was that printed on, was it glared or does it actually remove the **** and not only smear it around the cheeks?

You aren't gonna address it I guess or the other link I mentioned. That seems to be the tactics here - ignore - personal attacks - source attacks.
Glad you all make each other feel so smart with your tactics.
LOL.

 

[Defenestrated]

You all gonna just keep ignoring the poverty issue or is it even to obvious for you all.
See the link above you all must have missed it.

Your implying that Cuba would be out of poverty if it was capitalist.

Well I can point to just about every South American nation and furnish an example of how capitalism has plunged its people into poverty. The fact is that capitalism looks best through the eyes of the consumer, the United States is a nation of consumers, the Third World is not, they are nations of producers, and the producers are **** on in a capitalist system. There are two sides to everything.

Economic philosophy isn't some on off switch for poverty, it also depends on exports/imports, the populations, and natural resources of the country in question.

 

[Straya]

Cuba has not ratified one of the key human rights treaties providing specific guarantees of civil and political rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), and thus has not ratified the Optional Protocol to the ICCPR, which would allow individual victims of human rights abuse to present claims before the United Nations Human Rights Committee.

I'm not sure you really want to start an argument about international treaties that countires have or havent signed. The US record on a few isn't that crash hot.

Cuba also is notably absent among those countries that have signed or ratified the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR), which guarantees trade union rights among others.

The US being one of the notably absent.

 

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The US being one of the notably absent.

 

[Samirol]

I'm not sure you really want to start an argument about international treaties that countires have or havent signed. The US record on a few isn't that crash hot.





The US being one of the notably absent.

masterstroke post

 

[curtix]

I'm not sure you really want to start an argument about international treaties that countires have or havent signed. The US record on a few isn't that crash hot.





The US being one of the notably absent.

Some when something is wrong - you just point at the US and say them too and that somehow makes it ok?

Here are some more wonderful Cuban Human Rights Issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba

 

[Samirol]

It is rather hypocritical to scold Cuba for not being apart of those treaties when the U.S is absent from quite a few major human rights treaties.

Nobody is doubting that the human rights situation in Cuba is pretty bad, but I don't see what that has to do with socialism. That's what happens when you have a dictatorial government of any economic ideology. Look at Pinochet, for example. It has to do with how authoritarian the leadership is, not the economic policy.

Again, to use the same example for poverty, Pinochet had a 45% poverty rate, and he was 100% neoliberal.

 

[Straya]

Some when something is wrong - you just point at the US and say them too and that somehow makes it ok?

Here are some more wonderful Cuban Human Rights Issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba

I'm not trying to say that all is well in Cuba, my parents were there recently and they didn't paint a very rosy picture of the place.

Its just that you mentioned that they hadn't signed that treaty and I was just pointing out that the US hasn't signed it either, along with a string of other international treaties that I personally see as important that have not been ratified.

I'm equally pissed at both the US and Cuba for not ratifying that treaty you mentioned.

 

[rockwool]

Good ole Socialist! This is exactly where everyone should want to live.


Cuba has not ratified one of the key human rights treaties providing specific guarantees of civil and political rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), and thus has not ratified the Optional Protocol to the ICCPR, which would allow individual victims of human rights abuse to present claims before the United Nations Human Rights Committee. Cuba also is notably absent among those countries that have signed or ratified the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR), which guarantees trade union rights among others.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/cuba/Cuba996-02.htm

Rich People in Cuba - So many - The Poor there have it so good.
http://www.therealcuba.com/Poverty.htm

Wake the heck up man, and give up.

Is that ICCPR report from 1999?

Poverty in Cuba? Dang, silly me, I thought it was a third world countrie with a GNP of about $4000 per capita.

Some when something is wrong - you just point at the US and say them too and that somehow makes it ok?

Here are some more wonderful Cuban Human Rights Issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba

The US calls it self "the worlds greatest democracy", but its actions show the exact opposite. If the self apointed neighborhood cop was the dodgiest and most corrupt person around, would his word about doing the just thing carry any weight?

You aren't gonna address it I guess or the other link I mentioned. That seems to be the tactics here - ignore - personal attacks - source attacks.
Glad you all make each other feel so smart with your tactics.
LOL.

So you're saying that we shouldn't view a source critically as there's no way that they might have a hidden agenda?



Cuba was elected by the countries of the world to be a member of the UN human rights comission (or what ever it's called). Meanwhile, since a few years back, the US lost its place there as nobody thought they belonged there. That's worth a thought.

 

[Samirol]

USA, defender of human rights

http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa03.html

Measures to prevent international terrorism, study the underlying political and economic causes of terrorism, convene a conference to define terrorism and to differentiate it from the struggle of people from national liberation (153 to 2). (USA and Israel)

The right of every state to choose its economic and social system in accord with the will of its people, without outside interference in whatever form it takes (voted by 131 to 1); Resolutions against apartheid South Africa (110 to 1, 149 to 1, 140 to 1, 145 to 1); Prevention of an arms race in outer space (147 to 1); Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment, national development are human rights (132 to 1); International law (110 to 1); Transport and Communications Decade in Africa (137 to 1); Prohibition of manufacture of new weapons of mass destruction (116 to 1); Reversing the arms race (133 to 1), Prohibition of chemical and bacteriological weapons (98 to 1); Requests a study on the naval arms race (113 to 1); Disarmament and security (132 to 1); Strengthening the United Nations to respond to natural and other disasters (126 to 1).

The U.S was the blocker of all these travesties from being unleashed in the world

 

[rockwool]

freedom hater

 

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